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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
I'm not going to pretend to know who would make good coaching candidates, or even try to nail down what the issues are in the current system.

It's just that watching the games you can tell there is something fundamentally wrong with the way guys are set up and what plays they're trying to make.

- NorthNuck

My thoughts are the 1st period has been slow out of the gate too often. Idk why or if it’s just to be conservative. Run n gun isn’t always the option & if it is then it’s on the D to do it. Hughes needs support with only Stetcher seemingly trying to. Myers could add more to help out. Overall it still is the passing that breaks down.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
Agree & will decide if we are sellers. Should be sellers anyways imo.
- Nighthawk


It's starting to look the way. Hopefully JB doesn't leave too much on the table.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
My thoughts are the 1st period has been slow out of the gate too often. Idk why or if it’s just to be conservative. Run n gun isn’t always the option & if it is then it’s on the D to do it. Hughes needs support with only Stetcher seemingly trying to. Myers could add more to help out. Overall it still is the passing that breaks down.
- Nighthawk


^^^
This.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
This was discussed at length here some time ago. Green was the right pick for a young rebuilding team, plus no high end coach or manager would be interested in starting from scratch. Once the team was looking like it was ready to compete, you bring in a closer who can go head to head with the playoff coaches. So here's the magic question, are we there yet?
- VanHockeyGuy

I think it's a moot point, as Green will be the coach until the end, or near the end of the season even if they miss the playoffs.

If they miss, I think someone new comes in next year, which would be good timing imo.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
^^^
This.

- VanHockeyGuy

He is a bit of a 1 man army right now
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:34 PM ET
Cam's new rankings, it looks like we're a lottery team again.

https://dobberprospects.c...d-sits-atop-the-mountain/
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
That last road trip then a home game without rest really was horrible scheduling. Add this 3 games in 4 days & we look tired & outta sync. Scheduling has always been tough so looking forward to Seattle joining.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 1:48 PM ET
Considering what prospects are in the pipeline & the current roster what would we want most next?

RW Pod
RW Lind
C/RW Madden
LHD OJ
LHD Rathbone
RHD Rafferty
RHD Woo
LW Hoglander
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:54 PM ET
Considering what prospects are in the pipeline & the current roster what would we want most next?

RW Pod
RW Lind
C/RW Madden
LHD OJ
LHD Rathbone
RHD Rafferty
RHD Woo
LW Hoglander

- Nighthawk


I'm all for stockpiling D.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 2:00 PM ET
I'm all for stockpiling D.
- VanHockeyGuy

Any D 1st round you like? Generally I pick them later.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
Any D 1st round you like? Generally I pick them later.
- Nighthawk


I like this guy #13 on Dobbers.

Emil Andrae, LHD / 02-23-02 / 5’9 183lbs / SuperElit
Creative, shifty, and intelligent. Throw in strong edgework and deceptive speed and you’ve got the recipe for success for an undersized defender. Can dance out there.

https://dobberprospects.c...d-sits-atop-the-mountain/
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
#9 Cole Perfetti, C / OHL / 01-01-02 / 5’10 185lbs / OHL
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 16 @ 2:25 PM ET
Hughes needs to do back with Tanev. They were a solid pairing before getting separated.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 16 @ 2:59 PM ET
Hughes needs to do back with Tanev. They were a solid pairing before getting separated.
- Retinalz


I imagine he will when Edler gets back.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 16 @ 3:10 PM ET
It astounds me there are nights they make their opponents look silly, while others they can't make basic passes.

I noticed while watching one of the PPs last night, Petey, Brock, Miller all had the puck in their own end and just kept starting to break out, then back passing, basically just waiting for Hughes to do it cause none of them could manage it.

- NorthNuck


I see that too. Also, I've been contemplating how their habit of closing in then back passing to Hughes is becoming counterproductive from overuse. They need to decide when it's the best option or not more often than just thoughtlessly doing it.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
#9 Cole Perfetti, C / OHL / 01-01-02 / 5’10 185lbs / OHL
- VanHockeyGuy

Surprised he's ranked that low, I don't know a ton about this draft class but I thought he would be ranked more in the 5/6 range.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 3:13 PM ET
Surprised he's ranked that low, I don't know a ton about this draft class but I thought he would be ranked more in the 5/6 range.
- NorthNuck


I'm just focusing on the 10-15 range our luck will drop us to.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 16 @ 3:16 PM ET
Considering what prospects are in the pipeline & the current roster what would we want most next?

RW Pod
RW Lind
C/RW Madden
LHD OJ
LHD Rathbone
RHD Rafferty
RHD Woo
LW Hoglander

- Nighthawk


This team needs a top 6 C, a top 2 D, a top 6 W. No more little people.




VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 3:17 PM ET
Good point by Daniel Wagner

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 16 @ 3:24 PM ET
Has Benning ever sold high on any of his trades?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 3:26 PM ET
Good point by Daniel Wagner


- VanHockeyGuy

I feel like this is what most of us were saying when Baertschi got sent down the first time and Eriksson/Schaller stayed up.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 3:27 PM ET
I'm just focusing on the 10-15 range our luck will drop us to.
- VanHockeyGuy

If we miss the playoffs we're winning the lottery 100%
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 3:28 PM ET
Has Benning ever sold high on any of his trades?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Not one of his strong suits. He claims eastern teams don't know much about our players.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 3:30 PM ET
This team needs a top 6 C, a top 2 D, a top 6 W. No more little people.
- boonerbuck

Byfield
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 16 @ 3:32 PM ET
Has Benning ever sold high on any of his trades?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Lack, Hansen and maybe Garrison?


I wouldn’t call Burrows a true sell high since he was struggling/declining already and Ottawa knew what they were getting. Lack for sure fell off after getting traded though. TB fans liked Garrison during his first year there but I think he started slowing down after that.
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