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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
Fatigue is the new 'injuries'.
- Marwood


So are feelings.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 11:45 AM ET
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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Baertschi clears
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 12:05 PM ET
Crazy people out there man

https://twitter.com/buite...tatus/1206582997883006980
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
On Sven via Rick Dhaliwal. Ferland being out has to help.

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
On Sven via Rick Dhaliwal. Ferland being out has to help.


- VanHockeyGuy


There are no cap problems, Benning is a genius.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 12:13 PM ET
There are no cap problems, Benning is a genius.
- 1970vintage


I've said all season my expectations are tempered this season with the Canuck's

They are slowly figuring things out. Some things I like, others not so much.

They've got a tough road ahead of them.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 16 @ 12:21 PM ET
I've said all season my expectations are tempered this season with the Canuck's

They are slowly figuring things out. Some things I like, others not so much.

They've got a tough road ahead of them.

- VanHockeyGuy


bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
There are no cap problems, Benning is a genius.
- 1970vintage


Player agents are mean.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
I've said all season my expectations are tempered this season with the Canuck's

They are slowly figuring things out. Some things I like, others not so much.

They've got a tough road ahead of them.

- VanHockeyGuy

While I don't have any real hate for Green, it is starting to feel like coaching is holding the team back.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Dec 16 @ 12:45 PM ET
While I don't have any real hate for Green, it is starting to feel like coaching is holding the team back.
- NorthNuck


NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 12:48 PM ET

- DrChristianTroy

When they were playing well a couple months ago, it wasn't a problem.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Crazy people out there man

https://twitter.com/buite...tatus/1206582997883006980

- VanHockeyGuy

Darwin awards
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
When they were playing well a couple months ago, it wasn't a problem.
- NorthNuck

October - #teampompom

November - #teamwhiner

December - #teamwhiner (so far)...

#teampompom needs a HUGE January to make it 2-2 but still it's only December lol

Can it happen??

YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
While I don't have any real hate for Green, it is starting to feel like coaching is holding the team back.
- NorthNuck


Opposing teams are able to break out too easily against the Canucks' forecheck, and the Canucks routinely struggle to get the puck out of their own zone.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
October - #teampompom

November - #teamwhiner

December - #teamwhiner (so far)...

#teampompom needs a HUGE January to make it 2-2 but still it's only December lol

Can it happen??

- LordHumungous

3-4-0 with 6 more games in December, too early to call a victor just yet.

Feels like the rest of december/early january will determine a lot about where the Canucks finish.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
Opposing teams are able to break out too easily against the Canucks' forecheck, and the Canucks routinely struggle to get the puck out of their own zone.
- YeOldTimer

It astounds me there are nights they make their opponents look silly, while others they can't make basic passes.

I noticed while watching one of the PPs last night, Petey, Brock, Miller all had the puck in their own end and just kept starting to break out, then back passing, basically just waiting for Hughes to do it cause none of them could manage it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
While I don't have any real hate for Green, it is starting to feel like coaching is holding the team back.
- NorthNuck

I’m undecided on if it’s coaching. If it is who out there could change it up & sustain it?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
I’m undecided on if it’s coaching. If it is who out could change it up & sustain it?
- Nighthawk

I'm not going to pretend to know who would make good coaching candidates, or even try to nail down what the issues are in the current system.

It's just that watching the games you can tell there is something fundamentally wrong with the way guys are set up and what plays they're trying to make.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
Opposing teams are able to break out too easily against the Canucks' forecheck, and the Canucks routinely struggle to get the puck out of their own zone.
- YeOldTimer

I’m seeing teams pressure us on break outs. Not too impressed with our passing & teams have noticed. Team speed looks tired at times. VGK is impressive on the forecheck.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
It astounds me there are nights they make their opponents look silly, while others they can't make basic passes.

I noticed while watching one of the PPs last night, Petey, Brock, Miller all had the puck in their own end and just kept starting to break out, then back passing, basically just waiting for Hughes to do it cause none of them could manage it.

- NorthNuck


I think a good portion of that has to do with player confidence in how their system matches up against the opponent. Even the slightest hesitation in reads throws everything off, and the whole team soon looks lost.

I think Green's pressure system worked earlier in the season when teams were playing with less structure, but it hasn't evolved much. Teams have studied what they're giving up and are exploiting that effectively.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Dec 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
3-4-0 with 6 more games in December, too early to call a victor just yet.

Feels like the rest of december/early january will determine a lot about where the Canucks finish.

- NorthNuck


Agree & will decide if we are sellers. Should be sellers anyways imo.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think a good portion of that has to do with player confidence in how their system matches up against the opponent. Even the slightest hesitation in reads throws everything off, and the whole team soon looks lost.

I think Green's pressure system worked earlier in the season when teams were playing with less structure, but it hasn't evolved much. Teams have studied what they're giving up and are exploiting that effectively.

- YeOldTimer

It definitely feels that way. Even on a night where they give up equal chances to a night in Oct, they're getting scored on more often now because teams are ready for it.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
It astounds me there are nights they make their opponents look silly, while others they can't make basic passes.

I noticed while watching one of the PPs last night, Petey, Brock, Miller all had the puck in their own end and just kept starting to break out, then back passing, basically just waiting for Hughes to do it cause none of them could manage it.

- NorthNuck



This was discussed at length here some time ago. Green was the right pick for a young rebuilding team, plus no high end coach or manager would be interested in starting from scratch. Once the team was looking like it was ready to compete, you bring in a closer who can go head to head with the playoff coaches. So here's the magic question, are we there yet?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Dec 16 @ 1:24 PM ET
I’m seeing teams pressure us on break outs. Not too impressed with our passing & teams have noticed. Team speed looks tired at times. VGK is impressive on the forecheck.
- Nighthawk


It’s the coaching system. Green’s plan is to not complete a pass, not be in game shape so that the team is tired on back to backs and only score power play goals once every three games. They guys are really buying in.
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