Remember when a bunch of people were upset that we didn't sign Perry? Doesn't
seem so bad now for some reason.
- Monkeypunk

Yes his 11 points are underwhelming

Perry could do the same as Spezza, probably a bit better.
- MaximusAurelius

Perry's career faceoff percentage is significantly worse than Spezza's

Perry's career faceoff percentage is significantly worse than Spezza's
- TheMussel

Yes his 11 points are underwhelming
- winsix

It would be intriguing to see Pavelski play net front on the Leafs' PP though. IMO at least

Perry's career faceoff percentage is significantly worse than Spezza's
- TheMussel

2019-2020 season:
Spezza 53.5% vs Perry 50%

Perry could do the same as Spezza, probably a bit better.
- MaximusAurelius

that would be so Dubas, to pay someone double to do almost the same

-max probably

oh wait

I couldn't see that. Basically the Blues - who have designs upon repeating I would imagine - would weaken themselves at the D position to gain a top-9 speedster?

The only way the Leafs can really end up trading Barrie is if the wheels fall off and come into late January they are not even a bubble team. His $2.75m is just not replaceable with an equivalent asset if we're looking to make the playoffs; otherwise he'll be sold off along with Muzzin at the TDL for a couple of 1st round picks.

I think, if you really look at it, most of the defensemen we would want to replace Barrie are probably not someone that the team trading for Barrie would want to Part with. It means that it's a good defenseman who's under $6m. That's an asset you want to keep unless you're out of the playoff picture too, and not going to be able to afford to resign the asset. Is the acquisition of a top-9 speedster really the piece that makes you make that trade?
- Monkeypunk

Don't shoot the messenger..


I don't think it's an easy trade to make..
1) St. Louis has no reason to do it..
2) We lose Kap for basically 6 months of Pietrangelo. it wouldn't guarantee a Cup win.

I think the Leafs will be a team that will look to add at the deadline, not subtract.. Without our 1st this year, Dubas will need to get creative some how.

that would be so Dubas, to pay someone double to do almost the same

-max probably

oh wait
- senstroll

the key is to suggest that type of trade and then criticize Dubas when Perry struggles to keep pace with the Leafs

MacKinnon Crosby Marchand
Huberdeau McDavid Marner
Tavares Bergeron Scheifele
Stamkos Stone Couture

(Seguin/Barzal/Giroux/Freddy da goat)

This is the group of fwds we’re being denied..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Just take out Stamkos
🥇

I don't think I'd lay that at the feet of Babcock.

You have to give credence to the fact that Engvall is waivers exempt.

He also did nothing to win himself a role coming out of camp. I remember him having a couple of good shifts in the preseason. That was it. The numbers show that. He was second worst in the preseason in possession metrics (above only Brooks), third worst in expected goals (above only Bracco and Kossila), and 5th worst in Scoring Chance ratio (ahead of only Harpur, Brooks, Bracco and Kossila).

It looks like he came up, he learned, and he applied what he learned, and he is now demonstrating it. The key for him will be to consistently demonstrate this work ethic and ability for more than 12 games.
- Monkeypunk

Reference was made based on how the relationship soured between Mike and Kyle. Near the end, I sincerely doubt that Babcock was willing to entertain any fresh ideas from a much younger GM. Their relationship soured big time when Muzzin was taken aboard. And snowballed from that point on.

what the

https://twitter.com/Someo...tatus/1206431150023028737

like why?

Reference was made based on how the relationship soured between Mike and Kyle. Near the end, I sincerely doubt that Babcock was willing to entertain any fresh ideas from a much younger GM. Their relationship soured big time when Muzzin was taken aboard. And snowballed from that point on.
- Leafsmart

Certainly there was a perceived problem when Muzzin arrived. Other than playing the left side, he is exactly the type of guy Babs clamoured for, so his resistance was peculiar.

That said, if things had reached that level of toxicity between the GM and coach and Shanahan was preventing the firing, then he should be shouldering the blame.

what the

https://twitter.com/Someo...tatus/1206431150023028737

like why?
- senstroll

Cause young and drunk and male

what the

https://twitter.com/Someo...tatus/1206431150023028737

like why?
- senstroll

Maybe it's an artistic metaphor for how the Bills will do in the playoffs?

Certainly there was a perceived problem when Muzzin arrived. Other than playing the left side, he is exactly the type of guy Babs clamoured for, so his resistance was peculiar.

That said, if things had reached that level of toxicity between the GM and coach and Shanahan was preventing the firing, then he should be shouldering the blame.
- Monkeypunk

Suspect Shanny did when he and Mike met for the dismissal. Details may never come out but Brendan told of a tough meeting with Babs. Never like to see anyone get canned, but such is life for a hockey coach.

Reference was made based on how the relationship soured between Mike and Kyle. Near the end, I sincerely doubt that Babcock was willing to entertain any fresh ideas from a much younger GM. Their relationship soured big time when Muzzin was taken aboard. And snowballed from that point on.
- Leafsmart

I know it was reported Babs wanted to get a RHD instead, but still, I thought he liked the trade for Muzzin.. Coached him in 2016

Cause young and drunk and male
- daeth

What’s the cat poop guys excuse?

Maybe it's an artistic metaphor for how the Bills will do in the playoffs?
- Monkeypunk

Lololol

What’s the cat poop guys excuse?
- Santo_44

What’s the cat poop guys excuse?
- Santo_44

Artistic impression of how the Leafs would do in Game 7 against Boston

- TheMussel

Is that guy dusting it off to the Matthews lotto, like I did?

I know it was reported Babs wanted to get a RHD instead, but still, I thought he liked the trade for Muzzin.. Coached him in 2016
- PatC80

Muzz grew on him for sure. It's just that strange reaction from Babs when the media quizzed him on the signing. Like he was trying to show Kyle up. Weird.

Is that guy dusting it off to the Matthews lotto, like I did?
- Zezel

How many cat turds did you eat that night?

Is that guy dusting it off to the Matthews lotto, like I did?
- Zezel

How many cat turds did you eat that night?
- TheMussel

A thousand