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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
I couldn't see that. Basically the Blues - who have designs upon repeating I would imagine - would weaken themselves at the D position to gain a top-9 speedster?

The only way the Leafs can really end up trading Barrie is if the wheels fall off and come into late January they are not even a bubble team. His $2.75m is just not replaceable with an equivalent asset if we're looking to make the playoffs; otherwise he'll be sold off along with Muzzin at the TDL for a couple of 1st round picks.

I think, if you really look at it, most of the defensemen we would want to replace Barrie are probably not someone that the team trading for Barrie would want to Part with. It means that it's a good defenseman who's under $6m. That's an asset you want to keep unless you're out of the playoff picture too, and not going to be able to afford to resign the asset. Is the acquisition of a top-9 speedster really the piece that makes you make that trade?

- Monkeypunk

Good points.
His cap hit is key, gonna difficult to replace the talent at the cap hit via trade.
Unless they bring one of the kids up the rest of the year.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 16 @ 12:52 PM ET
Can’t we trade Ceci and Timashov instead?
- Garnie

Ya could.
Maybe.

For late round picks?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 16 @ 12:52 PM ET
Ya could.
Maybe.

For late round picks?

- Fakepartofme

Lucic and a 7th round pick
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
Good points.
His cap hit is key, gonna difficult to replace the talent at the cap hit via trade.
Unless they bring one of the kids up the rest of the year.

- Fakepartofme


Agree - a difficult almost impossible trade unless as Monkeypunk pointed out the eighteen wheeler goes off the cliff.
bmoney411
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I don't care about being "better" . I care about building a cup contender." -Iggysbff, ON
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 16 @ 12:54 PM ET
Me too, really seems to know the system already...( obviously when he’s played for Keefe I know )
- Garnie

Size, speed and good on ice awareness. What's not to like. Hopefully he keeps it up. I keep picturing a line of Hyman--Engvall--Mikahev. I feel like this could be a great shut down line. Engvall played some center in the AHL and did well with it.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
Lucic and a 7th round pick
- Symba007

Ahjay Approved
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Dec 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
I know I'm putting a lot of faith into Engvall here. I like his game a lot.
- bmoney411

He's a keeper for sure. Makes me wonder why he wasn't up before this. The Babcock stubborn streak, perhaps. Anyway, third line looks pretty decent lately. Maybe Kerfoot has found a role now.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Dec 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Holl has been playing on the 2nd pair with Muzzin for a while now. He has also been the best all-around defender since the coaching change.
- Steven_Seagull

I don't care if Holl has been stuffed into the 2nd pairing with Muzzin: he's not what the Leafs should want or need for that role.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 16 @ 12:58 PM ET
I don't care if Holl has been stuffed into the 2nd pairing with Muzzin: he's not what the Leafs should want or need for that role.
- mjones242


Who cares if they didn't want it to happen(which is crazy)

He has been exactly that.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Dec 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
Also heard Dreger say that as of Jan. 1/20, Leafs are in talks with Mickey on a new deal.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
Ahjay Approved
- RickJames77



Leafs can trade Matthews for Alzner while they are at it. This trade proposal belongs on the Nucks thread though. I saw Sven Baertschi and Sutter for Gallagher there as a proposal last week. I think the Nuck's fan also thought the Habs should throw in a pick to even things up.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
He's a keeper for sure. Makes me wonder why he wasn't up before this. The Babcock stubborn streak, perhaps. Anyway, third line looks pretty decent lately. Maybe Kerfoot has found a role now.
- Leafsmart


In other news - this just came out: "Babcock responsible for global warming."
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
I should have backread. I apologize for that. In terms of current goalies with a bit more unorthodox style, Bobrovsky might fit in, but not a lot of other effective goalies really come to mind.
- Monkeypunk


Don't put so much pressure on yourself.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 16 @ 1:06 PM ET


Leafs can trade Matthews for Alzner while they are at it. This trade proposal belongs on the Nucks thread though. I saw Sven Baertschi and Sutter for Gallagher there as a proposal last week. I think the Nuck's fan also thought the Habs should throw in a pick to even things up.

- winsix

Classic
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Also heard Dreger say that as of Jan. 1/20, Leafs are in talks with Mickey on a new deal.
- Leafsmart

If true.

Kap is for sure expendable.

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
In other news - this just came out: "Babcock responsible for global warming."
- MaximusAurelius

*Fan criticizes Babs for not trying a line that has worked with Keefe*

"Stop blaming Babcock for global warming"

-Max
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
The Los Angeles Kings have $11 million in cap space for next season tied up in Ilya Kovalchuk, Dion Phaneuf, and Mike Richards.

None of those people actually play for their team anymore.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
The Los Angeles Kings have $11 million in cap space for next season tied up in Ilya Kovalchuk, Dion Phaneuf, and Mike Richards.

None of those people actually play for their team anymore.

- Symba007

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Dec 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
*Fan criticizes Babs for not trying a line that has worked with Keefe*

"Stop blaming Babcock for global warming"

-Max

- Santo_44

can't blame something that does not exist on my pal Babs

-Max
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Dec 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
He's a keeper for sure. Makes me wonder why he wasn't up before this. The Babcock stubborn streak, perhaps. Anyway, third line looks pretty decent lately. Maybe Kerfoot has found a role now.
- Leafsmart


I don't think I'd lay that at the feet of Babcock.

You have to give credence to the fact that Engvall is waivers exempt.

He also did nothing to win himself a role coming out of camp. I remember him having a couple of good shifts in the preseason. That was it. The numbers show that. He was second worst in the preseason in possession metrics (above only Brooks), third worst in expected goals (above only Bracco and Kossila), and 5th worst in Scoring Chance ratio (ahead of only Harpur, Brooks, Bracco and Kossila).

It looks like he came up, he learned, and he applied what he learned, and he is now demonstrating it. The key for him will be to consistently demonstrate this work ethic and ability for more than 12 games.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Dec 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
The Los Angeles Kings have $11 million in cap space for next season tied up in Ilya Kovalchuk, Dion Phaneuf, and Mike Richards.

None of those people actually play for their team anymore.

- Symba007


If I'm Ottawa, I'm figuring out how to trade for that Kovalchuk contract. $6.25m in cap space for free? You can polish all of the salary cap floors with that!
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
If I'm Ottawa, I'm figuring out how to trade for that Kovalchuk contract. $6.25m in cap space for free? You can polish all of the salary cap floors with that!
- Monkeypunk

MelonRichard is going to have a wet dream about that tonight. Then have a video with Borocop talking about it and their eventual run of unparalleled success.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
The Los Angeles Kings have $11 million in cap space for next season tied up in Ilya Kovalchuk, Dion Phaneuf, and Mike Richards.

None of those people actually play for their team anymore.

- Symba007


Kovalchuk was put on unconditional waivers


Kovalchuk received a $2.65M bonus payment yesterday from Los Angeles and a $2.65M bonus payment on Sept. 15. By leaving the team and terminating his contract now, he gives up roughly $400,000 in salary this season and $4.25M next.

— Chris Johnston (@reporterchris) December 16, 2019


I bet Dallas signs him - only have to pay him $700K and they put him on a line with Radulov.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Dec 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
Kovalchuk was put on unconditional waivers


I bet Dallas signs him - only have to pay him $700K and they put him on a line with Radulov.

- winsix



Remember when a bunch of people were upset that we didn't sign Perry? Doesn't
seem so bad now for some reason.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Dec 16 @ 1:26 PM ET
Remember when a bunch of people were upset that we didn't sign Perry? Doesn't
seem so bad now for some reason.

- Monkeypunk


Perry could do the same as Spezza, probably a bit better.
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