Ya. The weirdly unique styles like Brodeur, Hasek, Thomas...I'd even add Quick to that list etc. are pretty much being phased out from a young age these days.
- AdamFrench

Yeah, it's pretty surprising Thomas was as effective as he was considering it was only 8 or so years ago. Interesting, though, I never thought of Quick in that convo, but it makes sense. Maybe to a lesser degree, but still checks out.

so Justin Holl is looking better and better.
Big RHD...that the Leafs desperately needed (cheap)

he is 2nd on the Leafs D with Muzzin at 10, 5v5 points.
But he has a lot less ice time, which puts him around the same as Rielly /60

Hope his play continues
- senstroll

He’s been great.

If he keeps it up, he’s a perfect cheap number 4 guy that the leafs can sign to 2-2.5 million for the next 3 years.

(frank) Dubas, I hate how he keeps finding these free wallets. Mikheyev, Moore, Holl.

Bring back Burke so he can (frank) up 1st round picks.

I hope my generation copes well with change, I think we will given what our current age is...but I could be yelling at clouds in 30 years. (frank) I hope not
- Santo_44

Good luck with that.

@Zezzy: millenials will figure out a way to extend our lifespans long enough to achieve immortality in the future. Therefor Boomers will for sure become maggot food, but we’ll live on forever
- Arctic_AARDVARK

...or at least until mommy and daddy's money runs out and you suddenly realize that taking trips all over the world is not actually a job.

50 games left? Who are we playing?
- Garnie

I got a strong feeling it’ll Leafs and TB.

How long is Kuch out ?

...or at least until mommy and daddy's money runs out and you suddenly realize that taking trips all over the world is not actually a job.
- Aetherial

Gotta love this NHL set-up Leafs will have their worst season in the past 4 years and will avoid Boston and face by far their weakest opponent.
- RogerRoeper

who?

I only watch it for the weiners
- Garnie

post of the year candidate.

oh yeah.
considering my expectations for him were very low..he is probably exceeding them
- senstroll

Significantly so. Not great at all, but has probably been better than Barrie. I was all for the Barrie deal, but in hindsight, the deal hasn't worked out for Toronto. Really like Kerfoot so far, good addition, but a seriously underperforming rental is a problem when he was a key piece to a deal. Leafs can't really trade him and he's not really worth even $5 million x 4 at this point.

who?
- senstroll

A team that's worse than Washington or Boston.

who?
- senstroll

If there really a weak opponent in the NHL anymore?

maybe the last wild card spot sometimes, when a team like NJ a few years ago gets super lucky and sneak in.

I got a strong feeling it’ll Leafs and TB.

How long is Kuch out ?
- Santo_44

I still think Tampa comes out of the east.

Yeah, it's pretty surprising Thomas was as effective as he was considering it was only 8 or so years ago. Interesting, though, I never thought of Quick in that convo, but it makes sense. Maybe to a lesser degree, but still checks out.
- RickJames77

I had always sort of considered it that Hasek and Thomas had greast anticipation and a second effort or level of determination that was way more consistent and effective than their peers. They would get beat, but they never gave up on a play. Thomas was certainly not Hasek, but he was that type of scramble-in-any-way to keep the puck out of the net type of goalie, and he was overall effective at it.

I never considered other super effective guys like Brodeur or Roy or Quick to have that skill. All of the latter goalies were probably more technically sound and in theory more predictable. Because of that certainty, it, I surmise, may have taken away their ability to have that same level of second-effort that Thomas and Hasek had.

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- Steven_Seagull

classic garnie

50 games left? Who are we playing?
- Garnie

After the Calgary loss I was told they were eliminated from the playoffs,.

He’s been great.

If he keeps it up, he’s a perfect cheap number 4 guy that the leafs can sign to 2-2.5 million for the next 3 years.

(frank) Dubas, I hate how he keeps finding these free wallets. Mikheyev, Moore, Holl.

Bring back Burke so he can (frank) up 1st round picks.
- Santo_44

dont like to get ahead of things, but its about time the Leafs find a diamond in the Rough to help the D.

Significantly so. Not great at all, but has probably been better than Barrie. I was all for the Barrie deal, but in hindsight, the deal hasn't worked out for Toronto. Really like Kerfoot so far, good addition, but a seriously underperforming rental is a problem when he was a key piece to a deal. Leafs can't really trade him and he's not really worth even $5 million x 4 at this point.
- winsix

I don’t necessarily agree.

Right now it’s hard to trade him...but come late January trades are easier to make. Teams give up and are willing to take on cap.

Just because a trade is difficult doesn’t make it impossible. We heard the Leafs couldn’t deal Marleau or Z and they were traded within a month of the finals.

If there really a weak opponent in the NHL anymore?

maybe the last wild card spot sometimes, when a team like NJ a few years ago gets super lucky and sneak in.
- Santo_44

No

After the Calgary loss I was told they were eliminated from the playoffs,.
- RogerRoeper

Yes, not everyone has the same views in the world....what’s that got to do with my question...TB won’t be any easier.

Hopefully we draw Detroit in the 1st round?

dont like to get ahead of things, but its about time the Leafs find a diamond in the Rough to help the D.
- senstroll

Dubas signs him now, fans get pissed at him for signing him too early.

If he signs him in the summer it’s too late.

He seems like a good bet, he came into the system as a depth AHL guy with Keefe. I could see him wanting to stay pretty bad to stay with Keefe.

Yes, not everyone has the same views in the world....what’s that got to do with my question...TB won’t be any easier.

Hopefully we draw Detroit in the 1st round?
- Garnie

Did you watch last years playoffs?

No
- 21peter

Even the Rangers.

I see them as a bottom 10 team in the NHL...if they snuck in could they win a round? Yup.

In the NBA you just don’t see it.

After the Calgary loss I was told they were eliminated from the playoffs,.
- RogerRoeper

But us in the know understand the Leafs are winning the Cup this year .

Morning

...or at least until mommy and daddy's money runs out and you suddenly realize that taking trips all over the world is not actually a job.
- Aetherial

You must have a younger sibling who your parents favour

I had always sort of considered it that Hasek and Thomas had greast anticipation and a second effort or level of determination that was way more consistent and effective than their peers. They would get beat, but they never gave up on a play. Thomas was certainly not Hasek, but he was that type of scramble-in-any-way to keep the puck out of the net type of goalie, and he was overall effective at it.

I never considered other super effective guys like Brodeur or Roy or Quick to have that skill. All of the latter goalies were probably more technically sound and in theory more predictable. Because of that certainty, it, I surmise, may have taken away their ability to have that same level of second-effort that Thomas and Hasek had.
- Monkeypunk

I wouldn't say they fall in the same category as Hasek and Thomas, but I don't think what I (or Adam) were trying to make that point. I think that all of the aforementioned goalies had a very unique style that existed in a time, when goalies were on aggregate more technically sound. Not necessarily that Brodeur, Quick, etc are as acrobatic as Hasek and Thomas. Just saying they were a bit different in an era, when goalies have become more or less the same. Obviously, some are better than others, but they all play the same style.