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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 16 @ 6:45 PM ET
while that is true, they also need to make the playoffs (eventually) in order for the kids to learn what playoffs hockey is. it is valuable experience to get.
worth a 2nd and a B prospect imo. not, I repeat, not a 1st.

- fidopro


If he can pull a Petry, sure.

Hall is a bad example. He needed to stay away.

If Hall like the Habs so much, sign here this summer.

And even then, the team who will sign him long term may live to regret it.

Very injury prone player.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Dec 16 @ 6:49 PM ET
Pretty much this. Don't expect him to buy just to get a rental. The team is not one player away to contend for the cup. Bergevin knows this and act on that knowledge.

Habs need to keep their picks and prospects like crazy. They need more of them, if they can.

Why did we trade Pacioretty? Why Shaw?

- deadpoulet


Well, they got a pretty good return for Pacioretty. Shaw was 1 consussion away from becoming a vegetable and it seems that it's now done so it's still a good trade.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Dec 16 @ 6:51 PM ET
If he can pull a Petry, sure.

Hall is a bad example. He needed to stay away.

If Hall like the Habs so much, sign here this summer.

And even then, the team who will sign him long term may live to regret it.

Very injury prone player.

- deadpoulet


Guy that relies on speed a lot and gets injured often...will probably slow down in a few years.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 16 @ 6:54 PM ET
If he can pull a Petry, sure.

Hall is a bad example. He needed to stay away.

If Hall like the Habs so much, sign here this summer.

And even then, the team who will sign him long term may live to regret it.

Very injury prone player.

- deadpoulet


deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 16 @ 6:59 PM ET
Well, they got a pretty good return for Pacioretty. Shaw was 1 consussion away from becoming a vegetable and it seems that it's now done so it's still a good trade.
- BashCH


My point is those moves were part of the reset/retoll/whatever you want to call them.

If you go after some rentals a few months later...
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Dec 16 @ 7:14 PM ET
My point is those moves were part of the reset/retoll/whatever you want to call them.

If you go after some rentals a few months later...

- deadpoulet


Don't think Bergevin is in the rental business...
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Dec 16 @ 8:15 PM ET
Don't think Bergevin is in the rental business...
- BashCH



Don't think he is in the sell business either.

He is in the just-under-mediocre business.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 16 @ 8:32 PM ET
Don't think he is in the sell business either.

He is in the just-under-mediocre business.

- Mashadar



he has nothing to sell.
most don't have any value, like Hudon or Alzner. and we now all know teams keep their best players.

maybe Thompson for a 3rd at the tdl,
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 16 @ 8:46 PM ET
he has nothing to sell.
most don't have any value, like Hudon or Alzner. and we now all know teams keep their best players.

maybe Thompson for a 3rd at the tdl,

- fidopro


Maybe Domi, like I said, but that would put more pressure on Suzuki and KK. He would sell low as well.

Other than that, some changes might take place this summer. They have a few key players that they will have to either sign or trade.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Dec 16 @ 9:21 PM ET
he has nothing to sell.
most don't have any value, like Hudon or Alzner. and we now all know teams keep their best players.

maybe Thompson for a 3rd at the tdl,

- fidopro


The fact that the habs are in the same conference might have made the price a bit higher for them as well... If they were asking for Caufield I would've hung up too
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 16 @ 9:34 PM ET
The fact that the habs are in the same conference might have made the price a bit higher for them as well... If they were asking for Caufield I would've hung up too
- Pat1993


Si tu es une autre équipe pis que tu appelles le CH, tu veux qui? Genre, tu es en reconstruction pis tu veux des jeunes. Le premier choix du CH, Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov, KK, Poehling , Primeau. Tous des joueurs que le CH devrait garder pis développer.

Pt que si Bergevin peut échanger un des 2e choix ou un espoir qu'on aime moins...mais encore là.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Dec 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
Si tu es une autre équipe pis que tu appelles le CH, tu veux qui? Genre, tu es en reconstruction pis tu veux des jeunes. Le premier choix du CH, Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov, KK, Poehling , Primeau. Tous des joueurs que le CH devrait garder pis développer.

Pt que si Bergevin peut échanger un des 2e choix ou un espoir qu'on aime moins...mais encore là.

- deadpoulet

lol
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 16 @ 9:54 PM ET
lol
- mr.peanut


mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 12.18.2011

Dec 16 @ 9:57 PM ET

- deadpoulet

yo
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Dec 16 @ 10:02 PM ET
The fact that the habs are in the same conference might have made the price a bit higher for them as well... If they were asking for Caufield I would've hung up too
- Pat1993


oh please, ARZ didn't give their best prospect. not even the 2nd. not even their 3rd.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 16 @ 10:13 PM ET
Si tu es une autre équipe pis que tu appelles le CH, tu veux qui? Genre, tu es en reconstruction pis tu veux des jeunes. Le premier choix du CH, Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov, KK, Poehling , Primeau. Tous des joueurs que le CH devrait garder pis développer.

Pt que si Bergevin peut échanger un des 2e choix ou un espoir qu'on aime moins...mais encore là.

- deadpoulet


if you're another team, you don't even call Mtl
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:17 PM ET
oh please, ARZ didn't give their best prospect. not even the 2nd. not even their 3rd.
- fidopro


Well what's the "condition" on the 1st and 3rd round picks?

I doubt Vejdemo and Barber would've sealed the deal
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
Well what's the "condition" on the 1st and 3rd round picks?

I doubt Vejdemo and Barber would've sealed the deal

- Pat1993


the first is top3 protected.
the 3rd become a 2nd if Hall re-sign or ARZ win a playoffs round, if becomes a 1st if both options happen

it'like if Habs gave Brook as top prospect, and 2 other lesser prospects. +/-
but I still would not do that trade. Habs are not in a position to trade away their 1st.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:31 PM ET
the first is top3 protected.
the 3rd become a 2nd if Hall re-sign or ARZ win a playoffs round, if becomes a 1st if both options happen

it'like if Habs gave Brook as top prospect, and 2 other lesser prospects. +/-
but I still would not do that trade. Habs are not in a position to trade away their 1st.

- fidopro



Agreed, but your other comment gave me the impression you thought MB was stupid for not getting a deal done
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 16 @ 10:35 PM ET
Agreed, but your other comment gave me the impression you thought MB was stupid for not getting a deal done
- Pat1993


no no, it's just that often some will say well... of course if they ask for Caufield or kk... I would hang up too.
like if ARZ sold the farm and traded their best prospects... which is not the case.

but you know what? ARZ missed the playoffs very often over the past few years (sounds familiar?). they had enough, they decided to go for it. can't blame them.
will it be a good move? probably not. time will tell.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Dec 16 @ 10:40 PM ET
no no, it's just that often some will say well... of course if they ask for Caufield or kk... I would hang up too.
like if ARZ sold the farm and traded their best prospects... which is not the case.

but you know what? ARZ missed the playoffs very often over the past few years (sounds familiar?). they had enough, they decided to go for it. can't blame them.
will it be a good move? probably not. time will tell.

- fidopro



It could be 2 first round picks at the end of the day plus some prospects. It's a lot.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 16 @ 10:42 PM ET
It could be 2 first round picks at the end of the day plus some prospects. It's a lot.
- deadpoulet


if they win a round and Hall re-sign. not a bad a deal at Hall.




I see the door from here
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:49 PM ET
if they win a round and Hall re-sign. not a bad a deal at Hall.




I see the door from here

- fidopro



Yeah, ARZ might not be Hall's top most desired destination either
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Dec 16 @ 10:51 PM ET
Yeah, ARZ might not be Hall's top most desired destination either
- Pat1993


would be fun to see him go back to EDM
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
he needs to clarify if he's asking if i'm dating my boss or if i'm dating deadpoulet.
- kicksave856


same person ?
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