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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
Cause we have many of those.
He was and has been easily replaced.

- Fakepartofme



Are you high?

Name them.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
Facts eh.
Crazy

- Fakepartofme


Facts based on a 12 game sample size with 10-12 minutes per. Even last year many observers quetioned the point of having a guy like Holl if he i sitting the entire year.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 15 @ 10:09 AM ET
Leivo don't make no never no mind.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
Leivo asked for a trade. Dubas put him off as long as he could. That trade is 100% on Babcock.
- RogerRoeper

No.
Dubas made the trade. If dubas really wanted him to stay cause he thought he was exactly what the leafs needed. He would have kept him.

Continue your babs whining all you want, but dubas made the trade
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
I need someone to tell me I am using hindight on Babcock. HAHA. EVERY thing I said that should be done Keefe is no doing. It wa imply the obvious.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
He was scratched 70 freaking games!!!! How can you scratch a guy for weeks and then give him 10 minutes and expect great results? come on.
- RogerRoeper


Because by the look of it, Holl loves to rush...different style then Babs wanted from that spot. If he gave him the shot and he got burned not playing the coaches way...you sit.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
Dubas traded leivo.
If dubas really thought leivo was so great, dubas would have moved someone else, kept leivo and had him played.
Glad hes doing well on a canucks team that you and many others think isnt that great, but no real loss.

- Fakepartofme



Traded who? How would he have had him played when he doesn't make lineups, coach does and he didn't want to play him?


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
Are you high?

Name them.

- burn

Anyone in our bottom 6...which is where leivo would have stayed.
No big loss.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
No.
Dubas made the trade. If dubas really wanted him to stay cause he thought he was exactly what the leafs needed. He would have kept him.

Continue your babs whining all you want, but dubas made the trade

- Fakepartofme


A GM cannot keep a player who wants out and has asked for a trade. And Dubas waited for a long time to pull the trigger on it.

Leivo even gave a freaking interview about asking for a trade long before he was traded. LOL
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
Anyone in our bottom 6...which is where leivo would have stayed.
No big loss.

- Fakepartofme


Still not naming them...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
No.
Dubas made the trade. If dubas really wanted him to stay cause he thought he was exactly what the leafs needed. He would have kept him.

Continue your babs whining all you want, but dubas made the trade

- Fakepartofme




He asked for a trade be sure he wasn't playing.

That is 100% on the coach.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Dec 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
Trade Nylander for a "Top 4 D". Or we can keep him and play Justin Holl who makes 675 K LOL.

People are morons.

- RogerRoeper


I don't know if its moronic to suggest trading Nylander for top 4 d - if that's even possible.

Yes, it would seem the Holl has solidified things - and I'm glad for that. I'm glad he's getting a chance to play a large number of games and getting significant ice time. Benching him for Marincin last year can't be explained in any logical way.

but back to why Nylander maybe more valuable as a tradable assent than as a Leaf going forward.

Apart from a single advanced stat - about his apparent all-worldliness at zone entries... what else does he actually notably contribute game in game out. Aside from the 2-3 a game high and wide shot attempts... I'm not seeing much.

Referees are best when they are invisible. Defensemen are generally best when they are invisible. 7M$ "scoring" forwards aren't supposed to be invisible.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
Traded who? How would he have had him played when he doesn't make lineups, coach does and he didn't want to play him?
- burn

If a gm wants a player in the line up, at the end of the day he gets him in the line up.

People are missing leivo?....lol anything for leafs fans to whine about haha.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
Anyone in our bottom 6...which is where leivo would have stayed.
No big loss.

- Fakepartofme



I don't see any names.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
Still not naming them...
- RogerRoeper

Any player who was and is in our bottom 6.
Except petan.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
A GM cannot keep a player who wants out and has asked for a trade. And Dubas waited for a long time to pull the trigger on it.

Leivo even gave a freaking interview about asking for a trade long before he was traded. LOL

- RogerRoeper



When they played Vancouver they asked him about it.

Said it was a toxic environment.

But hey, all hail babs
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Dec 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
Holl has been pretty good so far

Some of you are ready to start engraving his name on the Norris already

Slow down please
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
If a gm wants a player in the line up, at the end of the day he gets him in the line up.

People are missing leivo?....lol anything for leafs fans to whine about haha.

- Fakepartofme


This is simply not true. Brian Burke addressed this issue recently and said he did it only once in his entire GM career. He said coaching should be left to the coach.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 15 @ 10:15 AM ET
Holl has been pretty good so far

Some of you are ready to start engraving his name on the Norris already

Slow down please

- mr.sir

*Yawn*.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
A GM cannot keep a player who wants out and has asked for a trade. And Dubas waited for a long time to pull the trigger on it.

Leivo even gave a freaking interview about asking for a trade long before he was traded. LOL

- RogerRoeper

Yes they can, if said gm really wants the player on the team. They find a way.
Babs wasnt playing him, dubas seemer to think he wasnt worth keeping, so he agreed to trade him for nothing.
Moving on.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
If a gm wants a player in the line up, at the end of the day he gets him in the line up.

People are missing leivo?....lol anything for leafs fans to whine about haha.

- Fakepartofme



I think that that situation is more of an indictment on the coach and how bad he was.

We lost a legit player with low cap hit because of an idiot.


The gm doesn't make the lineups, or else Holl and leivo would have been playing regularly
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
Facts based on a 12 game sample size with 10-12 minutes per. Even last year many observers quetioned the point of having a guy like Holl if he i sitting the entire year.
- RogerRoeper


Team carries 23 guys, someone has to sit.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
When they played Vancouver they asked him about it.

Said it was a toxic environment.

But hey, all hail babs

- burn

He said it was toxic for him.
Cause he wasnt playing. Big surprise
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Dec 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
new blog everyone
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
I think that that situation is more of an indictment on the coach and how bad he was.

We lost a legit player with low cap hit because of an idiot.


The gm doesn't make the lineups, or else Holl and leivo would have been playing regularly

- burn

We have legit players with low cap hits.
He was easily replaced.
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