Yeah, with only 2 1/2 months until the deadline and 20% of the league interested, their backs are truly against a wall. Otherwise, they might risk derailing the Devils season!
- Sashamook

Exactly. They have a deadline. He has to be traded by then. They can say they want 4 valuable pieces for Hall, but no one will give that to them, and they don't have the option to keep him.

They're not going to do better than a first, and a top prospect, and some throwaway dudes, and even that's a massive overpayment that a GM won't do unless they're fighting for their job desperate.

Which are the 3 teams????

NOT GOING TO ISLES or FLORIDA .. dream on ...
going out WEST... ILSES and FLORIDA are only bargaining chips.

ARIZ or COL.

need 2 roster players
a top prospect
#1 pick.....

steep..
- thechezman

Exactly. They have a deadline. He has to be traded by then. They can say they want 4 valuable pieces for Hall, but no one will give that to them, and they don't have the option to keep him.

They're not going to do better than a first, and a top prospect, and some throwaway dudes, and even that's a massive overpayment that a GM won't do unless they're fighting for their job desperate.
- Hunkulese

He’s 18 months removed from winning a Hart, has a reasonable cap hit and no one knows what his next contract will look like. Many teams are interested, several of them in the same couple divisions. I don’t know why you’re so confident he’s not worth much, but I suspect it’s based off of as little as everyone else’s takes.

He’s 18 months removed from winning a Hart, has a reasonable cap hit and no one knows what his next contract will look like. Many teams are interested, several of them in the same couple divisions. I don’t know why you’re so confident he’s not worth much, but I suspect it’s based off of as little as everyone else’s takes.
- Sashamook

If they had traded him 18 months ago, they would have done very well.

Look at what teams have been willing to give up in the past couple of years. A perfect comparison is last year with Stone. Stone is the exact player everyone would want for a playoff run, and even with an extension, they were only able to get a really good prospect, a 2nd, and a dude. Why would Hall get more than that? There's too much parity in the league. Anyone who gets him still has a decent chance of losing in the first round. The cap hit is also irrelevant.

Hall also has the stigma of being on awful teams for his entire career. Who knows how much of that is his fault, but who really wants to give 72 million to a guy whose biggest success is gett his team a bunch of first overall picks.

4 useful parts and 72 million is way too much for Hall.

But hes not healthy and rarely is. Trust me you can win/make a ton of money in this world when you drop the name in sports and look at the facts. Id love him on my team but at what cost.

This all being said Colorado should grab him and go the cup unless it cost a dman then say no.

Johnsson and Ceci for Hall. Deal is done sources say. S4.5

HUGE
- Brukie

BIGLY

Which are the 3 teams????
- DEVILKNIGHT

Arizona Diamond Backs
Cleveland Indians
Colorado Rockies

Look at what teams have been willing to give up in the past couple of years. A perfect comparison is last year with Stone. Stone is the exact player everyone would want for a playoff run, and even with an extension, they were only able to get a really good prospect, a 2nd, and a dude. Why would Hall get more than that? There's too much parity in the league. Anyone who gets him still has a decent chance of losing in the first round. The cap hit is also irrelevant.

Hall also has the stigma of being on awful teams for his entire career. Who knows how much of that is his fault, but who really wants to give 72 million to a guy whose biggest success is gett his team a bunch of first overall picks.
- Hunkulese

Well, because he’s shown more offensive ability. When Stone was traded, he was in the midst of a career season with 28 goals. Hall’s had 39. Stone’s career high for points was 64, Hall’s had 93. Stone had much more playoff experience, but only 13 points in 27 games. Hall has 6 in 5 games.
Stone is obviously a much better two way player, and a great guy to add long term. Hall has more question marks, but absolutely has more offensive upside. In his Hart season, he finished with 40 points more than any teammate, because he was really mostly doing it himself. Imagine what he could do with a great center.

The return for the Devils really might be underwhelming, but it’s not far-fetched to think a gm might pay a premium for an offensive difference-maker. Especially if he feels he’s one great forward away from a very real chance at a Cup.

I keep reading fans making a comparison between Hall & Stone. You are comparing apples to oranges. Hall is on another tier from Stone. The numbers don’t lie. These are two players that are just not comparable. The only trade in recent history that comes close to Hall would go back to 2010ish with Kovy.

Kovy got a roster player, prospect and draft pick. That should be the rate for Hall. Roster player, prospect & 1st overall pick. Players like Hall & Kovy in his prime come along as an in season option once a decade.

Hall will get a return from a team that wants to win the cup this year. If I am Colorado or Boston and one piece away from a Stanley cup, I’m pulling the trigger on him even as a possible rental. If I am Arizona or Calgary I am not taking that risk on Hall. I am confused as to why those two teams are in the hunt other than just adding to the bidding war. The only teams that can really justify paying the Hall price tag would be Colorado, Boston and even Washington to an extent because these teams are in win now mode.

The only people who think Hall is a tier above Stone are Devils fans. If you asked every GM who they'd rather have, it'd probably be pretty evenly split, probably favouring Stone a little bit. Stone is the best defensive winger in the game and has point per game upside. Hall is a very good winger with one aberration of a year, not much more. Both Stone and Hall are in the all-star, not superstar tier.

And comparing Hall to Kovalchuk? Are you high? Hall had one phenomenal year and a bunch of pretty good years, and he's missed a lot of time. He has two seasons with more than 65 points and only 3 above 53. Kovalchuk was traded after 5 seasons of 40+ goals and averaging 80+ points.

Hoffman is a horrific defender. The Isles would never consider him.

Johnsson and Ceci for Hall. Deal is done sources say. S4.5
- Steven_Seagull

Might work if we threw in Lilybust and a bag of magic beans. The real question though, is are we ready to give up on Lilybust?

Johnsson and Ceci for Hall. Deal is done sources say. S4.5
- Steven_Seagull

I’m hearing from a few different places that he’s Toronto bound.

Just got a gut feeling it will be the Canucks that sneak in and get him they desperately need a top 6 forward

Hall will get a return from a team that wants to win the cup this year. If I am Colorado or Boston and one piece away from a Stanley cup, I’m pulling the trigger on him even as a possible rental. If I am Arizona or Calgary I am not taking that risk on Hall. I am confused as to why those two teams are in the hunt other than just adding to the bidding war. The only teams that can really justify paying the Hall price tag would be Colorado, Boston and even Washington to an extent because these teams are in win now mode.
- Htowntigers89

i know all the reports and speculation have the avs as a potential landing spot, but i just don’t see it happening at this stage- not if it’s just as a rental, anyway. if he can preemptively be extended before a trade happens then sure. but 100% not otherwise.

boston and washington have been contenders year in and year out for a long time now, both teams are getting a bit older (though i have no doubt each will continue to be awesome for at least another few). but speaking about them is a moot point since neither one has been linked to any rumor for Hall at any point.

as for the avs, they currently sit at the highest goals for of any team in the league, and that’s having played without rantanen and landeskog for literally half the season (16 games missed each). hall isn’t a necessity, he’s a luxury. joe sakic has made it pretty clear byram is a non-starter so take him off the table. roster player? i can see jost being moved but that’s about it. picks are kinda whatever since the avs will be finishing high in the standings for a long time.

and sure, they’re in “win now” mode but not exactly the same way boston or washington are; those two teams’ windows are closing a lot faster than the avs’ window. don’t forget- this is YEAR ONE of them being true contenders. we’re only a few years removed from their historically awful season. the rebuild took an extremely long time and i simply don’t see any reason to bet the house on Hall when the avs will be contenders without him for 6+ years, easily. it’s not like “win now or don’t win at all” is the case for them.

all this said, i wouldn’t expect him in an avalanche uniform anytime soon.

Which are the 3 teams????
- DEVILKNIGHT

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Dustin Hoffman is a horrific defender. The Isles would never consider him.
- mcoug

But he was great in “Rain Man”

Eklund: Hall Out Again Tonight? The latest...
- Eklund

Just like your bloggers don’t talk politics you know nothing about what’s going on with Hall. Be a man and back up what you preach till then you’re just spouting.

Per Friedman

"The Devils haven’t granted permission to interested clubs to talk contract extension with the Hall camp."

Who to believe?

More lies.

I understand why New Jersey keeping him out of the line up but now going on three games. Fans pay good money to see the best players and having him sit out dosnt seem right.

Per Friedman

"The Devils haven’t granted permission to interested clubs to talk contract extension with the Hall camp."

Who to believe?

More lies.
- flipneil

#FakeNews

I heard the Panthers offer includes Trocheck and some prospects from the boston area where Arizona's offer includes their 1st and 2nd round pick

The only people who think Hall is a tier above Stone are Devils fans. If you asked every GM who they'd rather have, it'd probably be pretty evenly split, probably favouring Stone a little bit. Stone is the best defensive winger in the game and has point per game upside. Hall is a very good winger with one aberration of a year, not much more. Both Stone and Hall are in the all-star, not superstar tier.

And comparing Hall to Kovalchuk? Are you high? Hall had one phenomenal year and a bunch of pretty good years, and he's missed a lot of time. He has two seasons with more than 65 points and only 3 above 53. Kovalchuk was traded after 5 seasons of 40+ goals and averaging 80+ points.
- Hunkulese

How many Hart Trophies does Stone have?
How many times has Stone had over a point per game ratio over a season? Hall has done it 4 times. The reason why Halls stats seem equal to Stone is because Hall has only 1 full season played in the NHL. He has missed time every other year due to injury. But hey dont let facts get in the way of your narrative....