Or we can wait to see how the Leafs play under a coach who believes in Dubas's vision before blowing it all up?
- mjones242

I am not endorsing blowing it up. But this team is fatally flawed and needs changes.

Ya you tell them.
- Fakepartofme

I absolutely will.

It’s important to me.

Why are you homers comparing this pathetic Leafs team to the Penguins and Tampa? These teams have won the cup recently, and please, the Leafs can’t carry the Pens water-bottles when you look at recent history.

Stop trying to justify this underperforming mess that we are seeing...

Hall not dressed, getting traded... Dubas, perhaps its time to do this with a few of our ‘players’...
- Hockey_Reverend

Go away

Why are you homers comparing this pathetic Leafs team to the Penguins and Tampa? These teams have won the cup recently, and please, the Leafs can’t carry the Pens water-bottles when you look at recent history.

Stop trying to justify this underperforming mess that we are seeing...

Hall not dressed, getting traded... Dubas, perhaps its time to do this with a few of our ‘players’...
- Hockey_Reverend

Tampa won the cup 15 years ago when there was no cap.

I am not endorsing blowing it up. But this team is fatally flawed and needs changes.
- Hockey_Reverend

Would you say that about any team with the same record?

I am not endorsing blowing it up. But this team is fatally flawed and needs changes.
- Hockey_Reverend

Why don't you think there will be changes? Changes have been happening regularly.

The D will be completed rebuilt in the summer. Anyone see LIlljegren? Damn he's put on a ton of muscle and looks fantastic and he's RH shot.

I think you let all of MUzzin, Ceci, Barrie go. I always laugh when people say there are "rumours" Muzzin doesn't want to stay. Who cares! We don't want his slow ass signed to a long extension.

The D will be completed rebuilt in the summer. Anyone see LIlljegren? Damn he's put on a ton of muscle and looks fantastic and he's RH shot.

I think you let all of MUzzin, Ceci, Barrie go. I always laugh when people say there are "rumours" Muzzin doesn't want to stay. Who cares! We don't want his slow ass signed to a long extension.
- RogerRoeper

4.5m for 3 years is fine

Although we need more RHD than LHD

Rielly, Dermott, Sandin 👍
, Liljegren, Holl. 👎

Why don't you think there will be changes? Changes have been happening regularly.
- Zezel

You can't cure cancer with a bandaid.

The D will be completed rebuilt in the summer. Anyone see LIlljegren? Damn he's put on a ton of muscle and looks fantastic and he's RH shot.

I think you let all of MUzzin, Ceci, Barrie go. I always laugh when people say there are "rumours" Muzzin doesn't want to stay. Who cares! We don't want his slow ass signed to a long extension.
- RogerRoeper

I agree that all of Muzzin Barrie and Ceci can go. Ceci is just not good enough and Muzzin and Barrie are going to command too much$ when they have Rielly coming up and will need a new goalie or re-sign Andersen.

You can't cure cancer with a bandaid.
- Aetherial

you cant hug a child with nuclear arms

The D will be completed rebuilt in the summer. Anyone see LIlljegren? Damn he's put on a ton of muscle and looks fantastic and he's RH shot.

I think you let all of MUzzin, Ceci, Barrie go. I always laugh when people say there are "rumours" Muzzin doesn't want to stay. Who cares! We don't want his slow ass signed to a long extension.
- RogerRoeper

#’s say he’s are best D, but carry on.

I wouldn’t sign him long term either, but 1 minute you’re calling us Champs and the next breathe our best D sucks

Anyone on here know of a good stream or place to find one for the Leicester City Norwich match? Been looking for like an hour.

Wonder what Goat would to with Matthews and Nylander..

Play him at Center.. tell him he has to hit as many people as he can,, stand in front of the net while the two others skate around passing and shooting and he cleans up the rebounds and maybe has a career year getting garbage goals

How is Dustin Brown in third in scoring on the Kings. Jeezas, I thought he went away years ago.

Exactly. Media drives a lot of it and the fanbase is rather vocal and large, but also quite toxic at times. Only place that eats its own and far worse is Montreal... but Leafs have always had bad defence, that has never changed. We've always utterly outright relied on our goalies to bail us out all the time, Palmeteer, Bester, Wregget, Furh, Cujo, Belfour... etc etc.

Lets face it this is the best this franchise has been and it has taken a few years to get to this point. It wasn't supposed to be that fast a turn around. We still aren't done yet. It will come but holy crap people want it NOW.

Think we can all be guilty of being impatient some. That said I think many cant temper expectations and see how it will go long term. I mean think of Edmonton those great cup teams... yet they had a few years of getting utterly schooled despite all that talent by the other teams before they rose up to a dynasty.
- Roadrunner75

It seems like the "so called fans" had a good grasp on where this team actually is. I think we owe them an apology. They got it. Us ultra fanboys completely misread how this roster looked.

Wonder what Goat would to with Matthews and Nylander..

Play him at Center.. tell him he has to hit as many people as he can,, stand in front of the net while the two others skate around passing and shooting and he cleans up the rebounds and maybe has a career year getting garbage goals
- ss2hotty

He can’t even make the 4th line anymore, not sure they’ll stick him on line 1.

#’s say he’s are best D, but carry on.

I wouldn’t sign him long term either, but 1 minute you’re calling us Champs and the next breathe our best D sucks
- Garnie

No I never once said our D "Sucks", my comment was based on cap and Lilljegren and Sandin needing spots.

He can’t even make the 4th line anymore, not sure they’ll stick him on line 1.
- Garnie

Why not try something new with him... Don't see him being a Wilson type player but can't see how it would hurt to try it..

Good face off man, big body to screen the goalie with Matthews shooting..

I am not endorsing blowing it up. But this team is fatally flawed and needs changes.
- Hockey_Reverend

"Fatally flawed"

We really can be outrageously dramatic about a struggling hockey team.

How is Dustin Brown in third in scoring on the Kings. Jeezas, I thought he went away years ago.
- AdamFrench

Dean Lombardi won cups yes, but what a mess he made. They have so many long-term deals on old, slow players. It's ridiculous.

No I never once said our D "Sucks", my comment was based on cap and Lilljegren and Sandin needing spots.
- RogerRoeper

Do you still think the Leafs are winning the Cup this year?

4.5m for 3 years is fine

Although we need more RHD than LHD

Rielly, Dermott, Sandin 👍
, Liljegren, Holl. 👎
- mr.sir

Muzzin?/ He's not taking that deal. That's why he must go

Do you still think the Leafs are winning the Cup this year?
- walshyleafsfan

Yes I stand by my predictions. Dallas is in the finals as well.

Yes I stand by my predictions. Dallas is in the finals as well.
- RogerRoeper

With Rick Bouwness at the helm? Eh.................