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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Dec 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
Cash in/cash out, you're looking at Hanzal, Galchenyuk, Callahan or Simmonds for UFAs
- jcragcrumple


I got no prob with gally in a trade like that
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
Crags- you really think botts is going to feel "forced" to trade bogo?

This is the benefit of having a gm that's not going to just react immediately to any situation.

Have to imagine bogos value goes up every day he's not injured. All the way thru the deadline.

More teams know their playoff fates
More $ off his contract

- Boss34


No, I think he pissed some guys off by hoarding half the NHL surplus supply of RHD. Not enough time to go around to 8 guys. Hopefully he gets something useful for someone
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:52 AM ET
Crags- you really think botts is going to feel "forced" to trade bogo?

This is the benefit of having a gm that's not going to just react immediately to any situation.

Have to imagine bogos value goes up every day he's not injured. All the way thru the deadline.

More teams know their playoff fates
More $ off his contract

- Boss34



If I am Botterill these are my thoughts

Wanted to move Risto in the offseason and didn't get his price, he is playing very well so lets hold onto him

Has 525,600 defensemen under contract and one has requested a trade

Move him for a bag of pucks. He is oft injured and doesn't move the bar in terms of on ice production and play.

What this does is clear up some much needed cap space.

Now I have 525,599 defensemen under contract and can move one of them and if needed eat some salary for the rest of the year to get a better return (preferably a forward that can improve the 2nd line)

Bogo coming out and asking for a trade just makes him the first player to move and not really carrying much about the return because lets face it you're not getting much for him anyway
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 13 @ 11:53 AM ET
I got no prob with gally in a trade like that
- Michael Pachla



This is also an option

Bogo for Gally straight up
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Dec 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
This is also an option

Bogo for Gally straight up

- Stripes77


Bogo for Wayne Simmonds works too
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 13 @ 11:57 AM ET


Wanted to move Risto in the offseason and didn't get his price


- Stripes77

SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Dec 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
Bogo was always hurt, over-paid and played poorly most of the time during his tenure in Buffalo. But the one (apparent) saving grace for him is that he was supposed to be an outstanding and upstanding individual - both in the locker room and the community. All the Bogo "good' got shattered yesterday when he turned on his team and teammates.

He is now poison. Nobody wanted him before. Do you think anyone wants him now? Waive him and then loan him to another AHL team. Neither the Sabres nor the Amerks need that poison in the locker room.
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Dec 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
he won't get much for bogo...too much cap hit...wish he'd have just sucked it up
- Michael Pachla

Wonder if he can send him to the penguins for Gally?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
Wonder if he can send him to the penguins for Gally?
- Sabres1523


I just don't see why they would want him. Granted, they may be saying the same about Gally coming here.
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Dec 13 @ 12:05 PM ET
I just don't see why they would want him. Granted, they may be saying the same about Gally coming here.
- TheSabresTaco


I say just trade BOGO for a late round pick and use the extra cap to be more aggressive during the trade deadline.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:06 PM ET
I just don't see why they would want him. Granted, they may be saying the same about Gally coming here.
- TheSabresTaco


Bogo has played the left side a little bit. Scandella still probably makes more sense for them
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 13 @ 12:12 PM ET

- homiedclown



Okay okay Risto wanted to be moved
soljor09
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I wish you could unfollow people on here, NY
Joined: 02.11.2007

Dec 13 @ 12:12 PM ET
Can we all realize that no team will want BOGO's contract for a late round pick unless we retain a lot of salary? Can we also realize that just because Galchynuk is having a bad year does not mean that his value is so low that Pittsburgh would trade him straight up for Bogo? I hope I am totally wrong, but we have to be realistic here. If he can stay healthy until the deadline then maybe he fetches something, but currently there are a limited amount of teams with the room for his salary and I highly doubt that they would want to use it on a guy like Bogo!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:14 PM ET
Okay okay Risto wanted to be moved
- Stripes77

correct

he is very happy now though
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:17 PM ET
Can we all realize that no team will want BOGO's contract for a late round pick unless we retain a lot of salary? Can we also realize that just because Galchynuk is having a bad year does not mean that his value is so low that Pittsburgh would trade him straight up for Bogo? I hope I am totally wrong, but we have to be realistic here. If he can stay healthy until the deadline then maybe he fetches something, but currently there are a limited amount of teams with the room for his salary and I highly doubt that they would want to use it on a guy like Bogo!
- soljor09


From WGR-
"The Pittsburgh Penguins were mentioned as a potential trade partner by Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman. When talking with The Instigators on Thursday, Friedman said the Sabres have shown more interest in forward Alex Galchenyuk than any other team.

Coincidentally, Galchenyuk's cap hit is just a little bit lower than Bogosian's at $4.9 million."
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
retain 50% of bogos cap

send him to the islanders for a 5th
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:19 PM ET
"I'm going to let any conversation between myself, Jason and my agent stay. Me personally, I'm not going to say anything. ... I'm going to let everything stay in house

Bogosian on whether he was surprised to get scratched: "I'm not sure. Like I said, I'm just focused on trying to get back in the lineup." (He was surprised. Said he thinks it was his first healthy scratch of his career).

-harrington
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
"I'm going to let any conversation between myself, Jason and my agent stay. Me personally, I'm not going to say anything. ... I'm going to let everything stay in house

Bogosian on whether he was surprised to get scratched: "I'm not sure. Like I said, I'm just focused on trying to get back in the lineup." (He was surprised. Said he thinks it was his first healthy scratch of his career).

-harrington

- jcragcrumple

doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Dec 13 @ 12:23 PM ET
retain 50% of bogos cap

send him to the islanders for a 5th

- homiedclown


I was just about to mention the Isles as a team that could potentially be a fit for BOGO. They have the space for him. Not sure is they want him though.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:24 PM ET
I was just about to mention the Isles as a team that could potentially be a fit for BOGO. They have the space for him. Not sure is they want him though.
- doppelthat


I'll take their problem child josh ho sang
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 13 @ 12:26 PM ET
No, I think he pissed some guys off by hoarding half the NHL surplus supply of RHD. Not enough time to go around to 8 guys. Hopefully he gets something useful for someone
- jcragcrumple



Botts doesn't care. Who has he pissed off? Other gms?
Its business.

They have rotated injured guys out, including bogo.
Even used the 7/11

If we make a playoff run, were going to want solid defensman and for Rochester to slowly arrive.


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:28 PM ET
Botts doesn't care. Who has he pissed off? Other gms?
Its business.

They have rotated injured guys out, including bogo.
Even used the 7/11

If we make a playoff run, were going to want solid defensman and for Rochester to slowly arrive.

- Boss34


The defensemen, well at least one confirmed. Others possibly. This is a byproduct of his defensemen hoarding. That's just a fact, jack
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 13 @ 12:28 PM ET
retain 50% of bogos cap

send him to the islanders for a 5th

- homiedclown

Has he retained celery on any trade so far?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 13 @ 12:32 PM ET
Jack 100 is finally here

And VO Sign him to a long term contract in the summer

- gerbe75pts


It was only a matter of time. His analytics have been strong for the past few years now. A little luck and more of a shot mentality and here we go.

Also can’t deny that Olofsson has been much better in that spot then Skinner.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 13 @ 12:32 PM ET
If I am Botterill these are my thoughts

Wanted to move Risto in the offseason and didn't get his price, he is playing very well so lets hold onto him

Has 525,600 defensemen under contract and one has requested a trade

Move him for a bag of pucks. He is oft injured and doesn't move the bar in terms of on ice production and play.

What this does is clear up some much needed cap space.

Now I have 525,599 defensemen under contract and can move one of them and if needed eat some salary for the rest of the year to get a better return (preferably a forward that can improve the 2nd line)

Bogo coming out and asking for a trade just makes him the first player to move and not really carrying much about the return because lets face it you're not getting much for him anyway

- Stripes77



Good post:

Botts is working it more like I would.

Look at the nhl trend - see that teams like to add veteran defenseman at the deadline. With no strings attached moving into next year.

Play the market, keep him for the Sabres depth if you cant get anything worth while.

Slowly mature pilut and borgen. Let them have ahl success similiar too asplund and goaloffson.

*pretty much our only real muscle.
In case we match up vs. A tough team in the playoffs
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