RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Hyman 5v5 18 mins
Matthews 5v5 14 mins
When do start hearing the “fire Keefe” from certain posters 😎 - Garnie
Matthews' 5 on 5 TOI is up with Keefe. My issue was always he wasn't playing enough. I don't worry too much about Hyman. He brings something the team lacks. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Definitely the one against Frolik was a bad goal that he should have had. I think on a normal night, he makes the save on the Gaudreau tip. It was higher on the ice, and if Andersen wasn't overplaying the Hamonic shot, he'd have been more able to react to the tip.
I think the first two goals - Hamonic's and Gaudreau's first were solid shots that found a good part of the net.
It's not like the Leafs crapped the bed. They had more High Danger changes. They had more Scoring Chances. They had more shots. They had more zone time. Rittich made some very good saves as well. It was a good game with a disappointing 2 minute window if you're a Leaf fan.
My takeaways:
The experiment is done. Kapanen is not good on his off wing.
Nic Petan is not an NHL player which is why no one has claimed him off waivers - twice.
Tyson Barrie makes far worse decisions than Jake Gardiner did, and he's even softer. He's better offensively and makes better offensive plays, but man. Man! The decisions that boy makes.
Tavares, Marner and Hyman looked great in the offensive zone. They had some poor defensive shifts.
I thought Matthews showed up for 10 minutes in the third. I thought Nylander showed up for the 2nd. It would be nice if that line would show up all game together.
Maybe I'm giving it too much credence as an excuse, but Kerfoot has not been anywhere near as good since the injury from Carter. I'm guessing the face shield and maybe pain (I have no idea) are interfering with his play, but he's been noticeably worse at everything - which drags down the third line.
Mikheyev looked real good last night. I liked about 45 minutes of Justin Holl yesterday, but he had a couple of shifts he'd want back. - Monkeypunk
Kerfoot hasn’t looked the same
Nice pass by Spezza
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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How long was the 5 on 3????
When you have Matthews, Tavarez, Marner, Reilly, Nylander....how do you NOT score on a 5 on 3???? Was it just one of those 20 second ones??? - hawk35
1:30 I think Or around there |
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21peter
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Definitely the one against Frolik was a bad goal that he should have had. I think on a normal night, he makes the save on the Gaudreau tip. It was higher on the ice, and if Andersen wasn't overplaying the Hamonic shot, he'd have been more able to react to the tip.
I think the first two goals - Hamonic's and Gaudreau's first were solid shots that found a good part of the net.
It's not like the Leafs crapped the bed. They had more High Danger changes. They had more Scoring Chances. They had more shots. They had more zone time. Rittich made some very good saves as well. It was a good game with a disappointing 2 minute window if you're a Leaf fan.
My takeaways:
The experiment is done. Kapanen is not good on his off wing.
Nic Petan is not an NHL player which is why no one has claimed him off waivers - twice.
Tyson Barrie makes far worse decisions than Jake Gardiner did, and he's even softer. He's better offensively and makes better offensive plays, but man. Man! The decisions that boy makes.
Tavares, Marner and Hyman looked great in the offensive zone. They had some poor defensive shifts.
I thought Matthews showed up for 10 minutes in the third. I thought Nylander showed up for the 2nd. It would be nice if that line would show up all game together.
Maybe I'm giving it too much credence as an excuse, but Kerfoot has not been anywhere near as good since the injury from Carter. I'm guessing the face shield and maybe pain (I have no idea) are interfering with his play, but he's been noticeably worse at everything - which drags down the third line.
Mikheyev looked real good last night. I liked about 45 minutes of Justin Holl yesterday, but he had a couple of shifts he'd want back. - Monkeypunk
starting to look like the catastrophes Yandle and Shattenkirk was for the Rangers... |
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walshyleafsfan
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Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita Joined: 07.14.2011
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starting to look like the catastrophes Yandle and Shattenkirk was for the Rangers... - 21peter
Gets points though. That's the first thing i look for in a dman. |
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21peter
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Gets points though. That's the first thing i look for in a dman. - walshyleafsfan
well played |
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gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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The 5 on 3 drove me crazy. "Look at all the passing we can do!"
Literally . . . just get it to Matthews, and shoot the puck. Put someone in front of the net to distract the goalie. Keep your left defenseman high on the boards to collect wide shots that carom around. Then get the puck back to Matthews. Rinse. Repeat.
You have a 5 on 3, Matthews should have had 6 shots.
It sounds like I'm exaggerating, but I'm really not. The Calgary 3 man triangle was passive, and Matthews was available for most of those 90 seconds. - Monkeypunk
They need to take some chances on one-timers. All of our shooters want to curl and release a wrister, but it's too slow, too easy to get in front of the shooting lanes.
If you watch some good PPs, there are backdoor one-timers, Ovi's Office one-timers, one-timers from the point.
Puck movement with a purpose. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Matthews' 5 on 5 TOI is up with Keefe. My issue was always he wasn't playing enough. I don't worry too much about Hyman. He brings something the team lacks. - RogerRoeper
Hyman back to playing more than matthews. That is a fireable offense, no?
Did babcock not call you back the next day?
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and not only that; "Look at all the passing we can do!" while not moving at all! - 21peter
This
They basically stood completely still on that PP and Calgary was happy to let them make soft, slow passes out by the blue line... PATHETIC
Rielly to Marner to Rielly to Matthews to Marner to Mathews to Rielly for the weak wrist shot from the point... Sound familiar? |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Kerfoot hasn’t looked the same
Nice pass by Spezza - Garnie
He gets run over every game.
Has a target on his back. He's been physically intimidated.
Other teams impose their will on the leafs. But once a game, kapanen might get into a mini scrum. So we have team toughness. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Gets points though. That's the first thing i look for in a dman. - walshyleafsfan
The sarcasm isn't undetected - but when evaluating a guy like Barrie, that is what you look for. He's not really a dman, he's a rover.
Under Keefe in 10 games, he has 6pts (3 goals) and is -1.
Under Babs in 23 games, he had 7pts (0 goals) and was -11.
While I likened him to Gardiner, I would note that Gardiner has 8pts and is -17 so far this year on the Hurricanes who are +6 as a team at even strength.
So . . . it could be worse. |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Kerfoot hasn’t looked the same
Nice pass by Spezza - Garnie
Spezza -6 on the year.
But I see why people don't like thus stat. He should be more like -12. He is directly responsible for a lot of goals against. |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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They need to take some chances on one-timers. All of our shooters want to curl and release a wrister, but it's too slow, too easy to get in front of the shooting lanes.
If you watch some good PPs, there are backdoor one-timers, Ovi's Office one-timers, one-timers from the point.
Puck movement with a purpose. - gravyface
Exactly. I felt they simply moved the puck but the purpose wasn't evident. It's not like they were spreading out the D. It's not like they were getting a lane. It's not like they were opening it up for a one-timer. There was also some inexplicable movement - like Matthews peeling from his right side dot to the high umbrella point. Why? He's not shooting from there, and his sole purpose on the power play is to shoot from the right side dot. It just felt like wasting time.
That said, and just because his shot is so lethal . . . on a 5 on 3 just keep giving it to Matthews and let him curl & release. If the D give him room, he'll score. |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Hyman 5v5 18 mins
Matthews 5v5 14 mins
When do start hearing the “fire Keefe” from certain posters 😎 - Garnie
Haha.
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Exactly. I felt they simply moved the puck but the purpose wasn't evident. It's not like they were spreading out the D. It's not like they were getting a lane. It's not like they were opening it up for a one-timer. There was also some inexplicable movement - like Matthews peeling from his right side dot to the high umbrella point. Why? He's not shooting from there, and his sole purpose on the power play is to shoot from the right side dot. It just felt like wasting time.
That said, and just because his shot is so lethal . . . on a 5 on 3 just keep giving it to Matthews and let him curl & release. If the D give him room, he'll score. - Monkeypunk
This |
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Hyman back to playing more than matthews. That is a fireable offense, no?
Did babcock not call you back the next day? - Tumbleweed
Yeah, or it could be that this is the second coach that has noticed how little effort he actually puts into the game.
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Dubas decided that Freddy is more than capable of playing 75 games this season. - walshyleafsfan
It's almost like lou told dubas:
- freddy is not as good as brodeur. He can't play 75 games
- you need a good backup
And dubas is on a pointless personal mission to prove him wrong. |
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21peter
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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Spezza -6 on the year.
But I see why people don't like thus stat. He should be more like -12. He is directly responsible for a lot of goals against. - Tumbleweed
the +/- stat is very unfair, the least feinshmecker stat of them all
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Exactly. I felt they simply moved the puck but the purpose wasn't evident. It's not like they were spreading out the D. It's not like they were getting a lane. It's not like they were opening it up for a one-timer. There was also some inexplicable movement - like Matthews peeling from his right side dot to the high umbrella point. Why? He's not shooting from there, and his sole purpose on the power play is to shoot from the right side dot. It just felt like wasting time.
That said, and just because his shot is so lethal . . . on a 5 on 3 just keep giving it to Matthews and let him curl & release. If the D give him room, he'll score. - Monkeypunk
It cant be the coaching. Too many coaches and assistants and same results.
It is laziness. The culture of this team is the entire problem. |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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How long was the 5 on 3????
When you have Matthews, Tavarez, Marner, Reilly, Nylander....how do you NOT score on a 5 on 3???? Was it just one of those 20 second ones??? - hawk35
Over a minute i believe. |
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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the +/- stat is very unfair, the least feinshmecker stat of them all - 21peter
Yeah because all -'s are just bad luck and happen just as a guy was about to get off the ice.
Sometimes, it actually does tell us something, particularly when it agrees with the eye test.
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Spezza -6 on the year.
But I see why people don't like thus stat. He should be more like -12. He is directly responsible for a lot of goals against. - Tumbleweed
We’re all over them for the most and then Captain Fancy pants makes that pass.
Delicious, if you’re a Flames fan. |
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Over a minute i believe. - Fakepartofme
Good lord |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Yeah, or it could be that this is the second coach that has noticed how little effort he actually puts into the game. - Aetherial
Something is not right with him.
It's almost as if he shouldn't have got a ~16m cheque on jul 1 and a bigger caphit than tavares.
Maybe there are human reasons you don't pay your rfa's who have won nothing boat loads of money?
I am torn though. My spreadsheet still says it"s a good idea. |
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It cant be the coaching. Too many coaches and assistants and same results.
It is laziness. The culture of this team is the entire problem. - Aetherial
It could be. Sometimes I think I play with more intensity at my men’s beer league then these winners making 10 million to play a game... |
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