Well McJesus is McJesus ...... so Eichel has no chance. But I agree.
- Sabretooth9

McJesus has another top 5 point player on his team (not naming names here don't want to deal with another 10 pages of that)

Eichel is legit carrying this team

At least bogo will see the game from up above.

That's a huge bonus.
- thatsapickle

I appreciate that our coach won't bench a guy after a bad game or two. Definitely takes a few games for a guy to fall out of rotation. I'm unsure why Scandella deserved a benching. McCabe and Bogosian should just alternate. Because that's what you do with your two worst defensemen.

I agree with everything here. But the "we found our #2!" chatter was way overboard.
- TheSabresTaco

Eh. I think more people said this about Jokiharju

For Miller, it was more, he can be Dahlin’s partner short term if they trade Ristolainen.

I don’t think anyone said he’s a bonafide top pair D man

I agree with everything here. But the "we found our #2!" chatter was way overboard.
- TheSabresTaco

I don't think anybody with a fully functioning brain actually believe that.

Also, why would the team be looking at any free agent defensemen? They plenty.

Or our good friend SBroads.
- Pegullaville

There's 2 specific guys on twitter that are DBTB groupies that drive me up a (frank)ing wall. They're like the gerbes of the analytical community. All reaction, no thought.

Well McJesus is McJesus ...... so Eichel has no chance. But I agree.
- Sabretooth9

Depends how true to the award the voters are
Leon is not a bad 2nd option in Alberta

Take away Eichel for 10 games could this team get more than 5 points? Id highly doubt it

I don't think anybody with a fully functioning brain actually believe that.

Also, why would the team be looking at any free agent defensemen? They plenty.
- kingcong39

I was in the bucket of he will be our #2 defensemen and a solid partner for Dahlin but they needed to improve the entire blue line

He came into training camp as a top 4 guy by default

There's 2 specific guys on twitter that are DBTB groupies that drive me up a (frank)ing wall. They're like the gerbes of the analytical community. All reaction, no thought.
- TheSabresTaco

It's why anyone who looks only at one aspect is a pain because they live and die on that sword

You need to pass the eye and the analytic test

Punching people is good for those people but making a good outlet pass is better for the analytic people!

Eh. I think more people said this about Jokiharju

For Miller, it was more, he can be Dahlin’s partner short term if they trade Ristolainen.

I don’t think anyone said he’s a bonafide top pair D man
- sbroads24

Sounds right. What got me was the whole 'this guy is great look at his domination, stick him with Dahlin!'

He's fine, he did great against below average comp, and vegas benched him in the playoffs.

I'm not trying to bag on Miller, he does his job, he's fine, and he takes care of business against bottom 6. It was the the social medias that trumped him up to be this incredible #2 awesome dman.

I don't think anybody with a fully functioning brain actually believe that.

Also, why would the team be looking at any free agent defensemen? They plenty.
- kingcong39

Look at this man. Even in this picture you can tell he's worried that he might not have enough defensemen

It's why anyone who looks only at one aspect is a pain because they live and die on that sword

You need to pass the eye and the analytic test

Punching people is good for those people but making a good outlet pass is better for the analytic people!
- Stripes77

The jaded portion of my soul really enjoys watching DBTB and their followers having to admit that Scandella is good this year despite trashing the living (frank) out of him last year and that he was done for good.

TO BE FAIR there was nothing Scandella was doing to suggest otherwise.

HOWEVER

This type of improvement should make people really think about improvement based on situational changes. Lines, partners, minutes, coaching, teams... All factors.

You're both wrong.
You base it on whether or not they are a good catholic.
- jochfr

You can't really argue this point.

The jaded portion of my soul really enjoys watching DBTB and their followers having to admit that Scandella is good this year despite trashing the living (frank) out of him last year and that he was done for good.

TO BE FAIR there was nothing Scandella was doing to suggest otherwise.

HOWEVER

This type of improvement should make people really think about improvement based on situational changes. Lines, partners, minutes, coaching, teams... All factors.
- TheSabresTaco

I have said numerous times that analytics alone doesn't tell the story of anybody

Sure you can go by common line mates but again those change by the second, sometimes players can't change when their line mates do. There is so much that goes into a game where players change on the fly.

It's a good tool to have but it better not be the only tool in your tool box

Bogosian is not, regarding the bold above?
- kingcong39

Bogo is like a broken remote control car with a bad battery. Using the Luke Schenn metaphor.

Bogo is like a broken remote control car with a bad battery. Using the Luke Schenn metaphor.
- TheSabresTaco

Bogo is bad

Bogo is always hurt

Bogo plays a mean playlist

Look at this man. Even in this picture you can tell he's worried that he might not have enough defensemen
- jcragcrumple

Your jib continues to be cut in the correct direction.

Bogo is bad

Bogo is always hurt

Bogo plays a mean playlist
- Stripes77

But can both be true? I debate that it can't.

The jaded portion of my soul really enjoys watching DBTB and their followers having to admit that Scandella is good this year despite trashing the living (frank) out of him last year and that he was done for good.

TO BE FAIR there was nothing Scandella was doing to suggest otherwise.

HOWEVER

This type of improvement should make people really think about improvement based on situational changes. Lines, partners, minutes, coaching, teams... All factors.
- TheSabresTaco

Dave & Busters Titty Booth?

Bogo has been brutal all year long. He can’t skate. He barely can pass. He’s turned into josh gorges. Basically a human pylon
- Sabretooth9

This was my point when estimating what he will get on his next deal.

But can both be true? I debate that it can't.
- TheSabresTaco

Go to google...type in zach bogosian the second thing that comes up is zach bogosian injury...


Then there is this:

https://soundcloud.com/zach-bogosian

I don't think anybody with a fully functioning brain actually believe that.

Also, why would the team be looking at any free agent defensemen? They plenty.
- kingcong39

Because, even though they have 7 or 8 RhD, they don't have 1 for the 1st pair to play next to Dahlin.

This was my point when estimating what he will get on his next deal.
- kingcong39

$1.25 million and hopefully not here

Dave & Busters Titty Booth?
- jochfr

"No Kids May Cross This Line"

Go to google...type in zach bogosian the second thing that comes up is zach bogosian injury...


Then there is this:

https://soundcloud.com/zach-bogosian
- Stripes77

Is it all House?

Because, even though they have 7 or 8 RhD, they don't have 1 for the 1st pair to play next to Dahlin.
- IonSabres

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