I have seen some bad Hawk teams but this group may quite possibly the dumbest group I have ever seen.
- Elbows15

True statement.

In a hockey IQ test of Gustaffson, Nylander, Gilbert and KKKK their collective total would not hit +1 above lettuce. Adding Saad to the group wouldn't help it much either.

That is a bad page to be on.
- TJYTJY

That's how well run organizations run.

If you're a long time fan, you suffered for decades. Now a couple down years brings out the rage. Toughen up.....

When 100% healthy the only 2 of the 5 that are worth a damn are Kane and Crawford.

Toews isn't even a top 20 centermen in the league.

Keiths body is finally breaking down, and Seabrook is just there to help lead the next generation. Fascinating that Dach lives with him over other veterans. Just shows you who really is considered the leader of this team.
- SteveRain

I was there last night and both of those two were playing pissed the last half of the game. When Kane gains the line and shoots before looking for a play to make he's (frank)ing pissed. He was banging the bench door going off the ice. When Crawford kind of shrugs after a rocket goes past the net his body language is saying WTF like last night.
I'm guessing the players couldn't wait to get on the plane after sunday's game to go to Vegas. So I'm guessing they were playing guilty last night. Usually after a loss the goalie skates to the bench and the guys give him the love mostly there. But last night the hawks got off the bench and went over to 50 at his net with as much energy as the Knights did for Fleury. So I'm thinking they all know just how bad they poop the bed last night. Not sure what if anything is going to change, but they all know.

Good luck to DeHaan and Matta with their situations. Crawford and Lehner too.

Well, McD is between Rocky and Stan...

Anyway, how mad would you be to learn that all 3 are on the same page?
- mohel

I think they are but the moves of late by bowman and lack of success of late has to come to forefront. Hawks imo are not going in right direction outside of boqvist and dach there is no top end talent in the system. Most of the prospects are projected bottom 6 forwards and 3 4 5 defense man. So we will see what happens in season or at the end of the season.

I think they are but the moves of late by bowman and lack of success of late has to come to forefront. Hawks imo are not going in right direction outside of boqvist and dach there is no top end talent in the system. Most of the prospects are projected bottom 6 forwards and 3 4 5 defense man. So we will see what happens in season or at the end of the season.
- Scott1977

I'm guessing that the page they're all on is a couple years long.

Who knows, maybe Stan has a mandate to get to the playoffs or else?

For the record, I dont think the Hawks trade 19/88 for the sole reason the money/promoting they bring in

Even though the seats will get more and more empty....they'll still sell ads and jerseys

....unless they ask to be moved
- PatShart

I don't see Kane wanting to wait years to be a cup challenger again. I think he asks out at some point, or says yes if asked like Chelios. Neither one can stand to play when they know they are going to lose.

From reading the last couple of blogs ( am actually in Vegas now on vacation), some have brought up the question but I have not seen a serious answer. Who replaces Stan? Vegas and Seattle hired McPhee and Francis, neither had stellar records previously as GM’s although won cups as players.

I have heard Hextall ( my choice), McIsaac, Chelios. I would like Tony Granato as coach.
- LAHawk

My pick to replace Stan would be Mark Hunter ,some still think the Leafs missed the boat when they let him go . Shrewd judge of talent ,and building a team in the right way . Love to have him on board for the up coming deep Jr. Draft .

I don't see Kane wanting to wait years to be a cup challenger again. I think he asks out at some point, or says yes if asked like Chelios. Neither one can stand to play when they know they are going to lose.
- 6628

I think the same thing, too. Said it at the beginning of the year seeing the team "structure". He wasnt going to be happy and will quietly ask to be moved

I think they are but the moves of late by bowman and lack of success of late has to come to forefront. Hawks imo are not going in right direction outside of boqvist and dach there is no top end talent in the system. Most of the prospects are projected bottom 6 forwards and 3 4 5 defense man. So we will see what happens in season or at the end of the season.
- Scott1977

Hey Scott, not trying to pick on you, but most teams do not have a bunch of top tier talent in the minors. Those guys, like Boqvist and Dach are already in the NHL. Truth be told, we don’t know what some of these players will turn into. Some guys (Pavelski and Marchand come to mind immediately) take a while to get to the dance and then develop into top level talent.

Well, McD is between Rocky and Stan...

Anyway, how mad would you be to learn that all 3 are on the same page?
- mohel

Not angry they are on the same page, but they seem to be reading alternate scripts of each player they acquire. These guys look so different from what their stats and experience might say.

Sure, they took chances in Perlini, Strome, and Nylander, but the others they thought they knew what they were getting. The disconnect is how these guys mesh with the core. I do not think the three musketeers have a sense of how to create a team or what that team should look like.

They keep plugging in pieces that don't mesh. Just like Toews said a couple of games ago, they are all out there engaged in parallel play, but they are not working together to complement each other.

I'm guessing that the page they're all on is a couple years long.

Who knows, maybe Stan has a mandate to get to the playoffs or else?
- mohel

Correct we don't know what conversation have been held. Mcego when they fired Q said it was a playoff team and no playoffs last year and looking like for now no playoffs this year also. You have to admit some of bowman's moves have very questionable at best.

Hey Scott, not trying to pick on you, but most teams do not have a bunch of top tier talent in the minors. Those guys, like Boqvist and Dach are already in the NHL. Truth be told, we don’t know what some of these players will turn into. Some guys (Pavelski and Marchand come to mind immediately) take a while to get to the dance and then develop into top level talent.
- Chunk

Thats ok its all about opinion and discussion i probably should elaborated more i that statement before posting it. In which hawks have dealt a lot top talent away and return has not been good. Dauight excuse the spelling return not good tt and bickell return so so joki for nylander so far not good but book still out that one. So right now dach and boqvist are the top talent.

Correct we don't know what conversation have been held. Mcego when they fired Q said it was a playoff team and no playoffs last year and looking like for now no playoffs this year also. You have to admit some of bowman's moves have very questionable at best.
- Scott1977

What they say to the public means nothing.

Sure, some of Stan's move have been bad. Happens to all of them.

Not angry they are on the same page, but they seem to be reading alternate scripts of each player they acquire. These guys look so different from what their stats and experience might say.

Sure, they took chances in Perlini, Strome, and Nylander, but the others they thought they knew what they were getting. The disconnect is how these guys mesh with the core. I do not think the three musketeers have a sense of how to create a team or what that team should look like.

They keep plugging in pieces that don't mesh. Just like Toews said a couple of games ago, they are all out there engaged in parallel play, but they are not working together to complement each other.
- Googlyeyes

Holy (frank). I lose count every game how many times all 3 forwards are on the same plane. They get their asses caught behind the puck so much its almost like they do it on purpose.

What they say to the public means nothing.

Sure, some of Stan's move have been bad. Happens to all of them.
- mohel

I am not sure if Stan is the right guy to lead a rebuild but to continue to dismiss what he did accomplish is kinda wacky.

I am not sure if Stan is the right guy to lead a rebuild but to continue to dismiss what he did accomplish is kinda wacky.
- Elbows15

It’s a losing battle.

I am not sure if Stan is the right guy to lead a rebuild but to continue to dismiss what he did accomplish is kinda wacky.
- Elbows15

It depends on if he has a plan. We all knew this was going to happen. The rationale is, Stan gets to pitch his plan to make the Blackhawks relevant again. If it’s garbage, let him go or promote him to replace McD and hire a new GM to handle the change.

We know McD’s plan, “one goal”, it’s time for him to retire.

If we hire a new coach, I hope we check in with Marco Strum. He is the GM and head coach of the German national team which has done amazing for the lack of superstars.

Currently he’s an assistant coach on the zoings

I am not sure if Stan is the right guy to lead a rebuild but to continue to dismiss what he did accomplish is kinda wacky.
- Elbows15

I'm not sure, either. But he's been tasked to be The Maintainer. There's no evidence on his ability to be The Builder.

Holy (frank). I lose count every game how many times all 3 forwards are on the same plane. They get their asses caught behind the puck so much its almost like they do it on purpose.
- Elbows15

No chit. What gets me is the aimless passing. Or, they pass it into a cluster of opposing players. It's like they just look for sticks but not who is attached to those sticks. The cup teams were masters of tape to tape precision. It hurts to watch.

PAGING ROCKY

Does Rocky even care what is happening to this team? If he did he would realize that a bunch of new eyes are needed to fix this mess. That goes from McD to the GM to the coach. Complete overhaul is necessary.

But does anyone think that will ever happen.
- TJYTJY

I posted it here before, Rocky cannot even name five players on the current team other than the ones that were there when they won the cups because he was riding the victory bus with them.

Pretty sure JC will make it to the end of the year but we've seen stranger things.

But if canned now, who would replace him?

Eddie O? Hitchcock? Steve Konroyd?
- Popsghostly

Hunter,Zito, or Eddie O for GM
Hitch ,Marc Crawford or Keenan for coach.
Players need to check their feelings and thin skin at the door.

Meh. Don't much care. DeBoers would be a boring hire. IMO.

Basicall Wilson fired him because of the poop roster Wilson put together.
- Elbows15

karlson...only 7 more years at $11.5...atta boy dougie wilson

karlson...only 7 more years at $11.5...atta boy dougie wilson
- bogiedoc

And Burns, $8M for 6 more years, until he's 40. And Vlasic, $7M for 7 more years, until he's 39.

And some bark about Stan.......

I'm not sure, either. But he's been tasked to be The Maintainer. There's no evidence on his ability to be The Builder.
- mohel

Meanwhile, all the players that people are lamenting who are gone are players Stan acquired. So, there is that.

Personally think they is a problem in the pro scouting and development department. I think they have done a good job in their amateur scouting. At the pro level is where the big mistakes have been made. I still don't know how anyone could watch Kimmo practice in Philly and think he had anything to offer a Cup contending team. Let alone WTf thought Condiment and Dale (frank)ing Weisse would be solid additions

If deHaan is out for a considerable period of time the Hawks should abandon this season and make every single decision based on next year or future years.

....Call up Lankinen (and sign him to an extension) ...
- -Doh-

With Gravel in his 4th year in juniors, his next stop should be an ELC so one of Lankinen, Delia, or Tomkins will need to be moved or relegated to the ECHL to make room. While a goalie prospect can get reps as an ECHL starter, not sure how much they can really develop at that level which is why Tomkins seems to be on a better growth trajectory this year.

With the way the Rockford goalie trio have been playing, I'd trade Delia for a draft pick or two (late rounders are fine) and consider Lankinen as the backup to Crawford or Lehner starting next season. Rockford would then have Tomkins and Gravel as the backstops.