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PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:21 PM ET
Kane would make that whole team better regardless

Would other teams put their best D matchups vs Eichel or Kane? Would free up one of them a bit more
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:22 PM ET
I think he's a pretty good coach

*unless he was fired for some non-political correct action. I feel like I should have that disclaimer now for some reason

- PatShart

Nope. He was fired for hockey reasons according to the report on the intermission show on NBCSN
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:23 PM ET
LeBrun is one Canadian. Most Canadians would prefer Gretzky retain his record but many would also applaud someone who breaks it. Crosby will never break Gretzky’s records, but The Who’s better debates of Crosby vs Ovechkin will Continue for a long time.
- paulr

You Canucks would be crying buckets of tears, pallie.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:23 PM ET
Dahlin isn't a prospect he's really good today and the kind of player you build around.

What NJ wants and what NJ gets are two different things.

Kane is +30 and Hall is 28.

Best you get for Kane at his salary is 2 first rounders + a prospect and a junk contract to eat since his salary is so high and even that seems high.

- fattybeef


Kane is going to cost an owner 5yrs 50mil

Hall is going to cost 8yrs 80m
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:23 PM ET
Nope. He was fired for hockey reasons according to the report on the intermission show on NBCSN
- Elbows15


You better wait to be sure

Dont want the PC police to come a knockin'
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 11 @ 8:25 PM ET
You Canucks would be crying buckets of tears, pallie.
- Elbows15

Why?
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:25 PM ET
Why was Joki traded? Remind me.
- Colbyboy

Because they had too many Young defensemen? At least that’s what they said.

I guess it’s easy to find young, puck moving, top 4 defensemen. Even if his ceiling was a Johnny Oduya clone, that’s a guy you hold on to.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:26 PM ET
Dahlin isn't a prospect he's really good today and the kind of player you build around.

What NJ wants and what NJ gets are two different things.

Kane is +30 and Hall is 28.

Best you get for Kane at his salary is 2 first rounders + a prospect and a junk contract to eat since his salary is so high and even that seems high.

- fattybeef

Yeah and Hall will still break down long before Kane. Hell, Hall is broke most of the time as it is now.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:26 PM ET
Why?
- paulr

Cause SteveRain said so.

WOOOO
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 11 @ 8:27 PM ET
At this rate, JC is going to be a senior coach in the NHL.
- Googlyeyes

Only because he hasn’t hit any players yet.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:28 PM ET
You better wait to be sure

Dont want the PC police to come a knockin'

- PatShart

Meh. Don't much care. DeBoers would be a boring hire. IMO.

Basicall Wilson fired him because of the poop roster Wilson put together.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:30 PM ET
Only because he hasn’t hit any players yet.
- scottak


Maybe he should. Straighten their arse out!
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:31 PM ET
Because they had too many Young defensemen? At least that’s what they said.

I guess it’s easy to find young, puck moving, top 4 defensemen. Even if his ceiling was a Johnny Oduya clone, that’s a guy you hold on to.

- scottak

There is a bit of impatience that appears to be running through the organization if you ask me. Especially with guys on their ELCs. Slump while on an ELC and off you go.

mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:31 PM ET
Nope. He was fired for hockey reasons according to the report on the intermission show on NBCSN
- Elbows15


As long as he's coached in the NHL before, it doesn't matter if he sucks.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:33 PM ET
Maybe he should. Straighten their arse out!
- mohel

I have seen some bad Hawk teams but this group may quite possibly the dumbest group I have ever seen.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Dec 11 @ 8:33 PM ET
Because they had too many Young defensemen? At least that’s what they said.

I guess it’s easy to find young, puck moving, top 4 defensemen. Even if his ceiling was a Johnny Oduya clone, that’s a guy you hold on to.

- scottak

And too few good potential young forwards.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:34 PM ET
As long as he's coached in the NHL before, it doesn't matter if he sucks.
- mohel


He coaches boring hockey. He also seems to have an extremely short shelf life.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Dec 11 @ 8:38 PM ET
Was Stan the same as Dale?
- PatShart


Good question, I do not know the answer to that. All I know is the Bowman’s wanted Hossa, and Tallon wanted to stay with Havlat.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:38 PM ET
I have seen some bad Hawk teams but this group may quite possibly the dumbest group I have ever seen.
- Elbows15


I know it's just optics, but Gus skating around with his mouth open reminds me of Leddy. Both look like mouth breathers, with games to match. Although Gus makes Leddy seem like Einstein on ice.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Dec 11 @ 8:45 PM ET
So the big question is does rocky have the stones to fire bowman? Does it happens time will tell if it happens then hawks nerd a gm that is a builder if not then hawks are turning into the white sox and bulls where loyalty to a certain figure is preventing the organization from moving forward.

Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:48 PM ET
There is a bit of impatience that appears to be running through the organization if you ask me. Especially with guys on their ELCs. Slump while on an ELC and off you go.
- Elbows15


Joki, Panarin, Schmaltz (although we replaced him with a similar situation), Hino, TT (although he was apparently dictated by the Canes to take Bickell). Aside from Hino, either 1st rounders or high performing FA. I know there are qualifiers to each of those deals, but it seems you have a point.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Dec 11 @ 8:51 PM ET
So the big question is does rocky have the stones to fire bowman? Does it happens time will tell if it happens then hawks nerd a gm that is a builder if not then hawks are turning into the white sox and bulls where loyalty to a certain figure is preventing the organization from moving forward.
- Scott1977


Well, McD is between Rocky and Stan...

Anyway, how mad would you be to learn that all 3 are on the same page?
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:52 PM ET
They wouldn't fire him

They would reassign/promote to the Senior Head of VP Hockey Operations
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 11 @ 8:54 PM ET
So the big question is does rocky have the stones to fire bowman? Does it happens time will tell if it happens then hawks nerd a gm that is a builder if not then hawks are turning into the white sox and bulls where loyalty to a certain figure is preventing the organization from moving forward.
- Scott1977


Why do people keep insinuating that it takes some great courage to fire a (or our) GM? Honestly, how much blowback would there be from the fans of Bowman was canned? 2/3 of fans likely want him gone for the Seabrook deal alone. There are two major considerations for ownership for firing a GM (IMO). Is he running the team in a way that improves the brand (or value)? Is there a clear competent path?
TJYTJY
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2017

Dec 11 @ 8:56 PM ET
Well, McD is between Rocky and Stan...

Anyway, how mad would you be to learn that all 3 are on the same page?

- mohel



That is a bad page to be on.
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