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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 13 @ 12:24 AM ET
Kubalik was going to fix everything on that line?
Sikura 0-2 now for 2019.

- rpeters01


Kubalik on that line has made it much more effective (heck they scored a 5on5 goal tonight). They maintained possession and had a decent number of quality chances.

Sikura didn’t play tonight...
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 13 @ 12:29 AM ET
4 AHL Dmen against a quick NHL team.
David Copperfield couldn't make that mess disappear.

- rpeters01


This

You can have a couple of slower skaters but when another team has a lot of speed throughout their lineup, we loose too many puck contests and are on our heels;
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:30 AM ET
And I will be watching from the comfort of my own home on the sofa watching from afar no more am I going to lay out that big money. I think the train wreck will also continue to the north side of Chicago this coming baseball season also. Because Theo is full of poop also!
- wonthecup10


The genius missed on Heyward like Carl Crawford in Boston, hasn't developed a pitcher since he arrived 7 years, gave up great prospects to the Sox because he couldn't develop a pitcher and had to trade for a so-so guy, missed on Chatwood and most of his pen, ruined Carl Edwards no excuse for his new motion developed all of the last spring training being illegal that's on the coaches, Bryant's best years were his first two I would not pay him crazy money find other players, leads the league in strikeouts every year. Blames the HOF manager for the crap he gave him. I mean not crap but too many big holes.
wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:36 AM ET
The genius missed on Heyward like Carl Crawford in Boston, hasn't developed a pitcher since he arrived 7 years, gave up great prospects to the Sox because he couldn't develop a pitcher and had to trade for a so-so guy, missed on Chatwood and most of his pen, ruined Carl Edwards no excuse for his new motion developed all of the last spring training being illegal that's on the coaches, Bryant's best years were his first two I would not pay him crazy money find other players, leads the league in strikeouts every year. Blames the HOF manager for the crap he gave him. I mean not crap but too many big holes.
- rpeters01


I don’t think Tom Ricketts will stand Pat, he seems to be a more hands-on owner. I think Epstein is gone if he Doesn’t get it straightened out fast.
Rocky?????? Fill in the blanks. With the foundation this team had they would’ve won three Stanley cups with Peter owning in the team. He would have put all the games on TV and did a lot of the other stuff minus hiring the public relations know nothing about hockey genius. I have to say that Peter probably would fired Stan Bowman by now, and definitely would not have fired Joel Quennville. Or better yet would’ve never hired Stan Bowman to be the general manager. Dale would probably still be the GM.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Dec 13 @ 12:38 AM ET
NBCSN Chicago crew announcing Hawks will make a decision in 24-48 hours about sending Dach to the WJC after Christmas.
- boilermaker100

I hope they do . Great experience for Dach ,and get him out of this losing environment . I think he has a big future ..If we happen to pick up a top pick this draft ,it being called a deep draft . Then hope Strome DBC Kubilik Boqvist Nylander Beaudin Mitchell Larkinen Vlasic Soderlund all progress .And boom were going back to the show .
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:40 AM ET
I don’t think Tom Ricketts will stand Pat, he seems to be a more hands-on owner. I think Epstein is gone if he Doesn’t get it straightened out fast.
Rocky?????? Fill in the blanks. With the foundation this team had they would’ve won three Stanley cups with Peter owning in the team. He would have put all the games on TV and did a lot of the other stuff minus hiring the public relations know nothing about hockey genius. I have to say that Peter probably would fired Stan Bowman by now, and definitely would not have fired Joel Quennville. Or better yet would’ve never hired Stan Bowman to be the general manager. Dale would probably still be the GM.

- wonthecup10

With budget Theo's been given no way he gets another contract without turning it around.

Unfortunately in hockey it takes a very long time to rebuild and the clock doesn't even start until Toews and Kane are gone. That is why I think people are jumping the gun on Stan. It would have taken a crystal ball to know when to blow it up and blowing it up isn't easy. They hated Jerry Krause for blowing up the Bulls.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:44 AM ET
I hope they do . Great experience for Dach ,and get him out of this losing environment . I think he has a big future ..If we happen to pick up a top pick this draft ,it being called a deep draft . Then hope Strome DBC Kubilik Boqvist Nylander Beaudin Mitchell Larkinen Vlasic Soderlund all progress .And boom were going back to the show .
- oldduffman

I would trade ADB for the kind of guys Carolina has... They get to the puck first in all three zones and they are not small.
wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:46 AM ET
With budget Theo's been given no way he gets another contract without turning it around.

Unfortunately in hockey it takes a very long time to rebuild and the clock doesn't even start until Toews and Kane are gone. That is why I think people are jumping the gun on Stan. It would have taken a crystal ball to know when to blow it up and blowing it up isn't easy. They hated Jerry Krause for blowing up the Bulls.

- rpeters01


I don’t believe it needs to be blown up. I believe a change in the hockey operations department namely the general manager and if you like this coach put him back in Rockford like I said before and hire an NHL experienced head coach. When you look at last year‘s roster versus this year‘s roster. We probably have better players this year. This clearly falls on the coach. And then they let him bring in two clowns for assistants.And unfortunately the only good assistant coach they Have is being put through the ringer’s now because he kicked a couple of kids in the ass and probably made them better players for the Toughlove back in the day. You are seeing the results of soft ass coaching with some of these guys starting with Eric Gusteffsson and Michael Nylander ,they need a good big foot right up their ass
wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:49 AM ET
I would trade ADB for the kind of guys Carolina has... They get to the puck first in all three zones and they are not small.
- rpeters01


I said it a couple times this last week, I would trade that little poop right now to either Calgary or Ottawa for either of the Tkachuk boys.
There’s some good hockey bloodline starting with big daddy Walt, and I know there are plenty they have a case of the ass against their cousin Kevin Hayes but that kid will turn out to be a very good hockey player for the flyers for a lot of years. I was hoping that Kevin Hayes would’ve wanted to sign here this year. But he could see the writing on the wall that this was going to be a crock of poop.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:53 AM ET
I don’t believe it needs to be blown up. I believe a change in the hockey operations department namely the general manager and if you like this coach put him back in Rockford like I said before and hire an NHL experienced head coach. When you look at last year‘s roster versus this year‘s roster. We probably have better players this year. This clearly falls on the coach. And then they let him bring in two clowns for assistants.And unfortunately the only good assistant coach they Have is being put through the ringer’s now because he kicked a couple of kids in the ass and probably made them better players for the Toughlove back in the day. You are seeing the results of sauce day is coaching. When some of these guys starting with Eric Gusteffsson and Michael Nylander need a good big foot right up their ass
- wonthecup10


I think you are underestimating how much worse this year Toews, Keith when he was playing, Seabrook and even Kane are compared to last year. Dinky is not a complete hockey player. Strome is slow but I don't think Schmaltz is great without the right guys around him either. Talk about a floater in the past I did not see the game tonight. This team does not have one player who plays like Bickell before he got sick.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 13 @ 12:54 AM ET
I’m guessing that we might be seeing someone other than Boqvist playing for the Hawks soon. He is not alone, but he is not ready to be playing here.
- Chunk

Besides giving him a look-see to see what he has on the NHL stage and evaluate what he needs to work more on, Boqvist really should be developing in Rockford this season. He wasn't anywhere close to being the best Hogs player -- defenseman or otherwise -- as he misses coverage constantly against AHL competition.

Even if the Hawks are in a rebuild or retool or whatever management cares to label it and "just play the kids" is the mantra, Boqvist doesn't have to and really shouldn't be one of those kids this year, IMO.

Carlsson and Tuulola have paid their dues and have demonstrated a respectable compete level. Gilbert, too, although I think Carlsson and Tuulola are each better than him.

Boqvist as well as Beaudin and Krys need to mature at the appropriate pace and level, i.e. the minors for at least one full season if not two.

As far as forward prospects, the right ones are getting cups of coffee in Highmore, Sikura, and Wedin.

If Fortin continues to improve his positive trend of blending speed with tenacity, then maybe give him another go.

Entwistle near the last quarter of the season may be worth a trial run.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Dec 13 @ 12:56 AM ET
I would trade ADB for the kind of guys Carolina has... They get to the puck first in all three zones and they are not small.
- rpeters01

Ya maybe I think DBC was kind of do to take a step back . He can still be a difference maker in this league .Ther are some nice shinny picks at the bottom of the pond this year ,like to see the HAWKS luck into one of those ,and the prospect pile starts looking very good ..
wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

Dec 13 @ 12:57 AM ET
I think you are underestimating how much worse this year Toews, Keith when he was playing, Seabrook and even Kane are compared to last year. Dinky is not a complete hockey player. Strome is slow but I don't think Schmaltz is great without the right guys around him either. Talk about a floater in the past I did not see the game tonight. This team does not have one player who plays like Bickell before he got sick.
- rpeters01


Agree!! The league is catching up to that little poop dinky they’re starting to squeeze him off. There is no way he’ll ever score 40 goals again. He may get 20 to 25 a year. Sell high on him my man I already threw my suggestion what I would do if the iron is even lukewarm these days on him.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Dec 13 @ 1:04 AM ET
Agree!! The league is catching up to that little poop dinky they’re starting to squeeze him off. There is no way he’ll ever score 40 goals again. He may get 20 to 25 a year. Sell high on him my man I already threw my suggestion what I would do if the iron is even lukewarm these days on him.
- wonthecup10

I take that bet ,and go ya one better and say little Dinky as you so ungraciously call him will score 50 plus before he done .
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Dec 13 @ 1:28 AM ET
Besides giving him a look-see to see what he has on the NHL stage and evaluate what he needs to work more on, Boqvist really should be developing in Rockford this season. He wasn't anywhere close to being the best Hogs player -- defenseman or otherwise -- as he misses coverage constantly against AHL competition.

Even if the Hawks are in a rebuild or retool or whatever management cares to label it and "just play the kids" is the mantra, Boqvist doesn't have to and really shouldn't be one of those kids this year, IMO.

Carlsson and Tuulola have paid their dues and have demonstrated a respectable compete level. Gilbert, too, although I think Carlsson and Tuulola are each better than him.

Boqvist as well as Beaudin and Krys need to mature at the appropriate pace and level, i.e. the minors for at least one full season if not two.

As far as forward prospects, the right ones are getting cups of coffee in Highmore, Sikura, and Wedin.

If Fortin continues to improve his positive trend of blending speed with tenacity, then maybe give him another go.

Entwistle near the last quarter of the season may be worth a trial run.

- AEL_Fox


Where Boqvist belonged to start the season was playing another year of junior hockey under Dale Hunter. But as usual Bowman thinks teenagers are almost ready to play with men in the NHL or AHL. You don't see Evan Bouchard anywhere near the Oilers and big Noah Dobson is appropriately being brought along very slowly under Trotz/Lamoriello.

Next up from the 30 game a year full faceshield weekend league will be 160 lb Ian Mitchell. And many on here will be anticipating greatness, and what they are going to see is a scrawny little kid overwhelmed by the speed and physicality of the NHL.

The real pros in the Hawk dressing room aren't immune from criticism for their play but they must look across the room every day and see Nylander, Boqvist, Gustaffson, Sikura, Kampf, KKKK and a few others and think winning is just impossible.



Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Dec 13 @ 1:40 AM ET
Where Boqvist belonged to start the season was playing another year of junior hockey under Dale Hunter. But as usual Bowman thinks teenagers are almost ready to play with men in the NHL or AHL. You don't see Evan Bouchard anywhere near the Oilers and big Noah Dobson is appropriately being brought along very slowly under Trotz/Lamoriello.

Next up from the 30 game a year full faceshield weekend league will be 160 lb Ian Mitchell. And many on here will be anticipating greatness, and what they are going to see is a scrawny little kid overwhelmed by the speed and physicality of the NHL.

The real pros in the Hawk dressing room aren't immune from criticism for their play but they must look across the room every day and see Nylander, Boqvist, Gustaffson, Sikura, Kampf, KKKK and a few others and think winning is just impossible.

- RickJ

I would agree on your outlook on Mitchell. While I expect him to sign with the Hawks once his NCAA season is over and think he has potential to be a top 3 defender down the line, I am doubtful he makes the team out of camp. At least one season in the minors may be best for his long-term growth.

In addition to Mitchell, I also expect blueliners Regula and Moberg (possibly Galvas), forward Barratt (possibly Teply), and netminder Gravel to go pro next season but none of them are anywhere near ready to play in the big show. At least two years in Rockford.

Barratt could be a dark horse and pull a Shaw by not only playing a similar style but also maybe having a similar trajectory with less than half a season in the AHL before making the jump to the NHL.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 13 @ 5:29 AM ET
I don’t believe it needs to be blown up. I believe a change in the hockey operations department namely the general manager and if you like this coach put him back in Rockford like I said before and hire an NHL experienced head coach. When you look at last year‘s roster versus this year‘s roster. We probably have better players this year. This clearly falls on the coach. And then they let him bring in two clowns for assistants.And unfortunately the only good assistant coach they Have is being put through the ringer’s now because he kicked a couple of kids in the ass and probably made them better players for the Toughlove back in the day. You are seeing the results of soft ass coaching with some of these guys starting with Eric Gusteffsson and Michael Nylander ,they need a good big foot right up their ass
- wonthecup10


For Fathering Alex? Seems a bit harsh.

Cup...you've complained a lot over the years, even when the team was winning. Don't do anything rash, but if you want to send a message to Rocky and Co., then make good on your threat and don't renew. You've hinted at it the last few years so poop or get off the pot.
pdx2ord
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Dec 13 @ 6:13 AM ET
“It was maybe something that kind of seeped into the team the last couple of years, that losing mentality,” Kane said Thursday. “You’re kind of just hoping to win instead of going out and making it happen.”
holyJumpin_NL
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.29.2018

Dec 13 @ 6:56 AM ET
i don't think this team would be much better with Q...ya don't have horses, the jockeys don't matter...

8 regulation wins in 32 games...not sure how this team gets to 80 pts...

- bogiedoc
you are so right. it don't matter, bottom line it's not all on the defence, our forwards do not give a shag about defence, and furthermore they are slow. The true leader is Lehner in a quick time he is sizing up the issues with team. Much of what he says you can read between the lines, we have not gotten that from anyone else Toews Q or. JC. Chances of resigning Lehner are slim, he was a great addition. this team show NOT look like it does now in Feb, and I hope the core including Kane volunteers for a move
ElkgroveMcD
Joined: 05.18.2016

Dec 13 @ 7:58 AM ET
I don’t think Tom Ricketts will stand Pat, he seems to be a more hands-on owner. I think Epstein is gone if he Doesn’t get it straightened out fast.
Rocky?????? Fill in the blanks. With the foundation this team had they would’ve won three Stanley cups with Peter owning in the team. He would have put all the games on TV and did a lot of the other stuff minus hiring the public relations know nothing about hockey genius. I have to say that Peter probably would fired Stan Bowman by now, and definitely would not have fired Joel Quennville. Or better yet would’ve never hired Stan Bowman to be the general manager. Dale would probably still be the GM.

- wonthecup10


Stan would never have been GM unless McDonut comes over...the issue moving forward is nobody with any credibility/competence on the hockey side will work for McDonut as he is the ultimate micromanager/meddler along with his side kick Battleship Blunk. Get ready for McIssac as the GM and Bill Peters as your new coach...McDonut will say he is reformed and went through extensive sensitivity training.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 13 @ 8:04 AM ET
For Fathering Alex? Seems a bit harsh.

Cup...you've complained a lot over the years, even when the team was winning. Don't do anything rash, but if you want to send a message to Rocky and Co., then make good on your threat and don't renew. You've hinted at it the last few years so poop or get off the pot.

- HawkintheD

It's hard to take guys like him, Steve, LNL et all seriously. They actually female doged louder and more often when the team was winning if that can be believed.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 13 @ 8:08 AM ET
Stan would never have been GM unless McDonut comes over...the issue moving forward is nobody with any credibility/competence on the hockey side will work for McDonut as he is the ultimate micromanager/meddler along with his side kick Battleship Blunk. Get ready for McIssac as the GM and Bill Peters as your new coach...McDonut will say he is reformed and went through extensive sensitivity training.
- ElkgroveMcD

The narrative in overdrive!!!
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Dec 13 @ 8:09 AM ET
Besides giving him a look-see to see what he has on the NHL stage and evaluate what he needs to work more on, Boqvist really should be developing in Rockford this season. He wasn't anywhere close to being the best Hogs player -- defenseman or otherwise -- as he misses coverage constantly against AHL competition.

Even if the Hawks are in a rebuild or retool or whatever management cares to label it and "just play the kids" is the mantra, Boqvist doesn't have to and really shouldn't be one of those kids this year, IMO.

Carlsson and Tuulola have paid their dues and have demonstrated a respectable compete level. Gilbert, too, although I think Carlsson and Tuulola are each better than him.

Boqvist as well as Beaudin and Krys need to mature at the appropriate pace and level, i.e. the minors for at least one full season if not two.

As far as forward prospects, the right ones are getting cups of coffee in Highmore, Sikura, and Wedin.

If Fortin continues to improve his positive trend of blending speed with tenacity, then maybe give him another go.

Entwistle near the last quarter of the season may be worth a trial run.

- AEL_Fox


How about Hagel and the Penn State's E Brophy.

Hagel is getting some goals. I believe a while ago you mentioned that he needs a full year AHL.

Brophy I figure replace Strome. But needs one year pro experience plus his skating needs to improve
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Dec 13 @ 8:14 AM ET
Good lord. Former Hawks are decimating the Hawks tonight.
- kwolf68


Rocky should shove that in Bettman's face - See, we have to give them 1/3 of the team to make it successful. Gary, you are a pile of Dung!
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 13 @ 8:25 AM ET
Rocky should shove that in Bettman's face - See, we have to give them 1/3 of the team to make it successful. Gary, you are a pile of Dung!
- powerenforcer

WTF!!! How can you possibly blame Bettman for hockey trades the two teams made???
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