Bogosian moved 3 guys out from in front of the net the other night

.....He had to, because he turned the puck over twice which led to the Canucks sustained pressure

Pilut is good with the puck
- sbroads24

So we are pro having our goalie screened so he cant see puck over guy who just cant clear the zone?

33 games 6 points -8

stat-line everyone wants

I find it odd he was listed 4-6 weeks for about 2-3 weeks and then had surgery.

I think they both understand he's not coming back
- sbroads24

I don't think we know the specifics of the injury. Do we? Any kind of tear and he's probably done for the season. Who knows.

trade one of the 47,000 d men damn it
- SabresFaninIndiana

Botterill examining his defense depth chart

So we are pro having our goalie screened so he cant see puck over guy who just cant clear the zone?

33 games 6 points -8

stat-line everyone wants
- hubie

Pilut was good in those 33 games

Bogosian has been bad here for 5 years

I don't know what else to say.

LHD?


I have 9 Pro D?

I don't think we know the specifics of the injury. Do we? Any kind of tear and he's probably done for the season. Who knows.
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah idk.

I'm busy trying to figure out why someone doesn't want Pilut here.

Oh wait because he isn't 6 foot 4. Because we've had so much success with all the big dudes

Pilut was good in those 33 games

Bogosian has been bad here for 5 years

I don't know what else to say.
- sbroads24

what is the estimated accumulated hours lost of sleep if we lose larry pilut?

Lots not act like hes the second coming of bob Orr

Pilut was good in those 33 games

Bogosian has been bad here for 5 years

I don't know what else to say.
- sbroads24

I can't believe it's been over 5 years

He has a whopping 12 goals over parts of 6 seasons here

No but they should've paid a team to take one of them.

Especially if it means that Asplund or Pilut etc can't become regulars because of cap ramifications
- sbroads24

Here's an idea.. do you happen to know where to find the chart that describes what a player is worth in wins over an 82 game season?

Then off of that, compare Bogo and Pilut. If there's no Pilut, we can at least see how many non-wins (losses) Bogo is worth.

Would definitely help if it's current, because Scandella has found a lot of success next to Jokiharju this season.

what is the estimated accumulated hours lost of sleep if we lose larry pilut?

Lots not act like hes the second coming of bob Orr
- hubie

I mean, you're both sorta right with the overall points you're trying to make here.

Larry Pilut is a physically weaker version of Brandon Montour. He's high event. He can move the puck well, but his actual ability to defend is lacking.

Overall, he is absolutely a larger net positive than Bogosian ever was. And yet, his 'impact' can be seen as, well... average at best. Still better than Bogosian, who's impact is generally negative.

I mean, you're both sorta right with the overall points you're trying to make here.

Larry Pilut is a physically weaker version of Brandon Montour. He's high event. He can move the puck well, but his actual ability to defend is lacking.

Overall, he is absolutely a larger net positive than Bogosian ever was. And yet, his 'impact' can be seen as, well... average at best. Still better than Bogosian, who's impact is generally negative.
- TheSabresTaco

No visor = truculent leadership

And just think Bogo was a 3rd overall pick
holy turd burger

Here's an idea.. do you happen to know where to find the chart that describes what a player is worth in wins over an 82 game season?

Then off of that, compare Bogo and Pilut. If there's no Pilut, we can at least see how many non-wins (losses) Bogo is worth.

Would definitely help if it's current, because Scandella has found a lot of success next to Jokiharju this season.
- TheSabresTaco

IN the 5 years since the trade, his cumulative WAR is under 1

Pilut last year in just 33 games was .8 (almost 1 win)

Basically Pilut attributed to the same amount of WAR in 33 games as Bogo has in 5 years

Look, it's Bogo's, Sobotka's, Hunwick's, Sheary's and Scandella's poopty contracts going up in flames on July 1st.

I mean, you're both sorta right with the overall points you're trying to make here.

Larry Pilut is a physically weaker version of Brandon Montour. He's high event. He can move the puck well, but his actual ability to defend is lacking.

Overall, he is absolutely a larger net positive than Bogosian ever was. And yet, his 'impact' can be seen as, well... average at best. Still better than Bogosian, who's impact is generally negative.
- TheSabresTaco

Do something botts!

No visor = truculent leadership
- jcragcrumple

The math adds up here

IN the 5 years since the trade, his cumulative WAR is under 1

Pilut last year in just 33 games was .8 (almost 1 win)

Basically Pilut attributed to the same amount of WAR in 33 games as Bogo has in 5 years
- sbroads24

(frank) sakes bud. I don't think I was looking for WAR stats.. there's a bar chart that shows how many wins a player is worth (not above replacement)

(frank) sakes bud. I don't think I was looking for WAR stats.. there's a bar chart that shows how many wins a player is worth (not above replacement)
- TheSabresTaco

Charts graphs bars

both fail the eye ball test time and time again

IN the 5 years since the trade, his cumulative WAR is under 1

Pilut last year in just 33 games was .8 (almost 1 win)

Basically Pilut attributed to the same amount of WAR in 33 games as Bogo has in 5 years
- sbroads24

Bogo, 233 games, 1 win above replacement
Pilut, 33 games, 0.8 wins above replacement.

Means it will take Pilut 9 games or less (probably less based on development) to catch Bogo in cumulative.

Dahlin comes back soon ...... so they will need to send someone down soon or make some sort of move. They don’t have the roster spots.

Look, it's Bogo's, Sobotka's, Hunwick's, Sheary's and Scandella's poopty contracts going up in flames on July 1st.
- TheSabresTaco

July 2020

Girgensons re-signed
Larsson re-signed
Vesey re-signed
Scandella re-signed
Sheary re-signed

Jason Botterill trades a 2022 3rd round pick for Frankie Vatrano

See you in October

Charts graphs bars

both fail the eye ball test time and time again
- hubie

yeah I'm definitely not using any particular chart to tell me if a player is good. Just wanted to look at it.

Bogo has failed the eye test for years now. Pilut made Mr. -40 look good.

Dahlin comes back soon ...... so they will need to send someone down soon or make some sort of move. They don’t have the roster spots.
- Sabretooth9

They don't have to do anything. Roster is 22 players rn.

July 2020

Girgensons re-signed
Larsson re-signed
Vesey re-signed
Scandella re-signed
Sheary re-signed

Jason Botterill trades a 2022 3rd round pick for Frankie Vatrano

See you in October
- jcragcrumple

Can you (frank)ing imagine. I say this rhetorically because it's way too (frank)ing feasible.

I find it odd he was listed 4-6 weeks for about 2-3 weeks and then had surgery.

I think they both understand he's not coming back
- sbroads24

I kinda get that vibe too about sobotka.

Hopefully off to bergland island