Montgomery out in Big D. Unprofessional conduct. Another abuser?
- mohel

Very shocking. Interested to hear the details on this one.

GM Nill presser happening soon.

This is pure retrospective fallacy and fantasy. many of these deals were dictated by cap constraints, TDL deals for another cup run that went bust, and non fits...period end of story...lamenting these speculative "what ifs" is a fools errand and pointless

leddy?? come'on gone 5 years now...he has been ok and got his big $$'s from the isles and won nothing...hawks were not and could not give him 5 mil per for 6 years...
- bogiedoc

Lots of excuses on Cap related trades - other teams have faced the same.

It’s increasingly difficult to defend Bowman & this lineup
He’s all in on the aging core & the sooner they start rebuilding the better.
I question his feel for the sport
- trades- hiring of Jeremy & the ugly contracts that never made sense.

Bowman is the definition of insanity- do the same & hope for different results

If nothing gives we will all be having this same conversation next year & the year after that!

It’s time to move on.

You're not turning into Power Enforcer on us, are you?
- paulr

He would be a better man if he did!

It's not of popular opinion, but I could see the Hawks trading Strome and DeBrincat. ADB is at his most valued when the team has speed and grease around him and he can do what he does best in the O zone.

Strome sees the play well on offense but his lack of skating, defense and physicality do not scream "sign me as a second line C" at $6mm + per year.
- phantasmo

A good 3C will still get $6...

Lots of excuses on Cap related trades - other teams have faced the same.

It’s increasingly difficult to defend Bowman & this lineup
He’s all in on the aging core & the sooner they start rebuilding the better.
I question his feel for the sport
- trades- hiring of Jeremy & the ugly contracts that never made sense.

Bowman is the definition of insanity- do the same & hope for different results

If nothing gives we will all be having this same conversation next year & the year after that!

It’s time to move on.
- Colbyboy

No it's not.

He would be a better man if he did!
- powerenforcer

Pretty sure you mean better woman.

Lots of excuses on Cap related trades - other teams have faced the same.

It’s increasingly difficult to defend Bowman & this lineup
He’s all in on the aging core & the sooner they start rebuilding the better.
I question his feel for the sport
- trades- hiring of Jeremy & the ugly contracts that never made sense.

Bowman is the definition of insanity- do the same & hope for different results

If nothing gives we will all be having this same conversation next year & the year after that!

It’s time to move on.
- Colbyboy

Toews and Kane should have been closer to $9+/-, Seabrook 4 yrs max. Other than those three Stan has done well with contracts. Without 20/20 hindsight you would need a crystal ball to know when core was done. People still hate Jerry Krause for blowing up the Bulls. Fans are fans but Stan had a tough job to do with the hard cap. People forget one of those all in TDL's he brought Ladd back. Epstein the genius has not done as well as Stan.

Toews and Kane should have been closer to $9+/-, Seabrook 4 yrs max. Other than those three Stan has done well with contracts. Without 20/20 hindsight you would need a crystal ball to know when core was done. People still hate Jerry Krause for blowing up the Bulls. Fans are fans but Stan had a tough job to do with the hard cap. People forget one of those all in TDL's he brought Ladd back. Epstein the genius has not done as well as Stan.
- rpeters01

This is all correct. I'd add that Stan had little choice on 88 & 19. The contract on Seabs was bad the day it was signed.

Thank you!!!!!!!

Hinostroza would not make a difference on this team or the team last year.
- nickmo2699

Should have kept Bufglylien and Ladd and let Kane and Toews go Stan's an idiot.

Should have kept Bufglylien and Ladd and let Kane and Toews go Stan's an idiot.
- rpeters01

And could have the Antii brothers in net (Niemi and Raanta).

This is all correct. I'd add that Stan had little choice on 88 & 19. The contract on Seabs was bad the day it was signed.
- mohel

Problem was they had the same agent and contracts ending in the same year. Kind of reverse anti trust. Tallon was waiting out there with deep pockets at that time. He would have gotten Stamkos had he not been already playing on the better Florida team. Shanahan did a great job playing hardball with Stamkos but he only had one guy to lose. We had two. Will never know what would have happened if Stan held to $9.0.

Problem was they had the same agent and contracts ending in the same year. Kind of reverse anti trust. Tallon was waiting out there with deep pockets at that time. He would have gotten Stamkos had he not been already playing on the better Florida team. Shanahan did a great job playing hardball with Stamkos but he only had one guy to lose. We had two. Will never know what would have happened if Stan held to $9.0.
- rpeters01

Quite true.

This is pure retrospective fallacy and fantasy. many of these deals were dictated by cap constraints, TDL deals for another cup run that went bust, and non fits...period end of story...lamenting these speculative "what ifs" is a fools errand and pointless

leddy?? come'on gone 5 years now...he has been ok and got his big $$'s from the isles and won nothing...hawks were not and could not give him 5 mil per for 6 years...
- bogiedoc

He has a very low bar for playing "extremely well."

Picture of Montgomery on his twitter site. Wife and 4 little kids. Looks like a family man. Feel sorry for them all. Hope he learns by his mistake and lands on his feet.

https://twitter.com/starsmonty?lang=en

But she didn’t pass as well.
- scottak

She was a hog "too cheap" to pass.

that was 2011...needed a pt vs detroit and got beat in regulation and then the stars went on to lose to the wild...
- bogiedoc

I didn't think it was the year after the cup was why I said '12...

Picture of Montgomery on his twitter site. Wife and 4 little kids. Looks like a family man. Feel sorry for them all. Hope he learns by his mistake and lands on his feet.

https://twitter.com/starsmonty?lang=en
- boilermaker100

What is the mistake?

Here's something we can do when things get slow on this site, maybe around the Christmas break or when the Hawks have the week off in January.

We should all put together the ex-Black Hawk team. Need a roster of 13F, 7D and 2G. They must be all current players and need to conform to the 81.5M cap.

Handzus>AA. Both big bodies and solid FO% but Zus was a physical force. Neither moved well but Zus had the killer instinct that AA didn’t. No fear when the going got tough. AA looked like a lil female dog if things weren’t going his way in big games.
- Assman22

Loved Zus great when he won the ot game. Could use him in shootouts now deceptively slow, you think he must have shot by now but still not there!

What is the mistake?
- mohel

No one knows yet and the Stars aren't talking. He had to be fired for something.

I'm pissed the Hawks didn't keep Phil Esposito. (frank)ing Blowman!
- paulr

Will always be Hawks Lou Brock and letting Bobby Hull go Greg Maddux...

I agree on Boqvist playing. It will be interesting to see if he plays 4 more games, because that will mean his ELC doesn't slide. If that happens, he may be staying all year.
- mohel

Gus is leaving you can put it on the board!

No one knows yet and the Stars aren't talking. He had to be fired for something.
- boilermaker100

They said not criminal, not related to new abuse rules, and an "act" that just came to light on Sunday.

No it's not.
- mohel

So would you extend Bowman’s contract out another 3 years?

So would you extend Bowman’s contract out another 3 years?
- Colbyboy

Sure, unless Chelios is available.