The reality is that doesn't mean they are as bad defensively as it seems. The #'s with Freddy starting are real good. They are horrific when he's not in net.

Leafs are at a 107 PT pace with our #1 goalie in net.
- RogerRoeper

And 12 PT pace with our backup

- bixll

https://www.thesun.co.uk/...a-grin-connected-to-kiss/

The reality is that doesn't mean they are as bad defensively as it seems. The #'s with Freddy starting are real good. They are horrific when he's not in net.

Leafs are at a 107 PT pace with our #1 goalie in net.
- RogerRoeper

I would be interested to see what all 31 teams are on pace for with their starter in net.

Would 107 points be high, middle or low?

The reality is that doesn't mean they are as bad defensively as it seems. The #'s with Freddy starting are real good. They are horrific when he's not in net.

Leafs are at a 107 PT pace with our #1 goalie in net.
- RogerRoeper

The reality is that Dubas is responsible for roster changes.
Since letting go McSavey, he hasn't done anything to address the evident backup goalie issue.
One head coach already was replaced due to that big mistake - and for the current coach, the goalie issues will continue until Dubas gets some balls and makes a trade for a legit 1B goalie, shipping off one of the FWs Leafs don't really need (Bracco or Johnsson or whoever).

As well - being on pace only counting a selection of the games doesn't count - surely other teams can do the same thing ('only taking Saturday games, Habs are on a 114 point pace'; or 'considering games where McDavid scores a goal, Edmonton are on a 124 point pace' etc.)

Doesn't help that in 7 games, Hutch's GAA is 4.55.
- PatC80

With Hutch, it's GAAA

Goals Against Above Average.

The reality is that Dubas is responsible for roster changes.
Since letting go McSavey, he hasn't done anything to address the evident backup goalie issue.
One head coach already was replaced due to that big mistake - and for the current coach, the goalie issues will continue until Dubas gets some balls and makes a trade for a legit 1B goalie, shipping off one of the FWs Leafs don't really need (Bracco or Johnsson or whoever).

As well - being on pace only counting a selection of the games doesn't count - surely other teams can do the same thing ('only taking Saturday games, Habs are on a 114 point pace'; or 'considering games where McDavid scores a goal, Edmonton are on a 124 point pace' etc.)
- MaximusAurelius

Agreed

With Hutch, it's GAAA

Goals Against Above Average.
- Atomic Wedgie

Gets Anal Assaulted Always

The reality is that Dubas is responsible for roster changes.
Since letting go McSavey, he hasn't done anything to address the evident backup goalie issue.
One head coach already was replaced due to that big mistake - and for the current coach, the goalie issues will continue until Dubas gets some balls and makes a trade for a legit 1B goalie, shipping off one of the FWs Leafs don't really need (Bracco or Johnsson or whoever).

As well - being on pace only counting a selection of the games doesn't count - surely other teams can do the same thing ('only taking Saturday games, Habs are on a 114 point pace'; or 'considering games where McDavid scores a goal, Edmonton are on a 124 point pace' etc.)
- MaximusAurelius

What? Babcock did not get fired because of the backup.
And I'd like to point out, when Babcock did have Mcilhenney playing great he barely used him for some reason.

NBA refs
- AdamFrench

Russian doping officials.

I would be interested to see what all 31 teams are on pace for with their starter in net.

Would 107 points be high, middle or low?
- Atomic Wedgie

Leafs do have by far the worst results from their backup. Only Columbus is even close.

The reality is that Dubas is responsible for roster changes.
Since letting go McSavey, he hasn't done anything to address the evident backup goalie issue.
One head coach already was replaced due to that big mistake - and for the current coach, the goalie issues will continue until Dubas gets some balls and makes a trade for a legit 1B goalie, shipping off one of the FWs Leafs don't really need (Bracco or Johnsson or whoever).

As well - being on pace only counting a selection of the games doesn't count - surely other teams can do the same thing ('only taking Saturday games, Habs are on a 114 point pace'; or 'considering games where McDavid scores a goal, Edmonton are on a 124 point pace' etc.)
- MaximusAurelius

Hasn't done anything?

Sparks
Hutchinson
Brought in Neuvirth.
Even tried Kaskisuo for a game.


I think he's trying to improve the backup goalie position but it's failed so far.. But he is or has been doing something at least.

People are so hard to Dubas it's ridiculous. He signed the entire core when people said he could not and there's not a single contract he can't move.

He will address the backup situation.

Leafs are 4th worst in league in goals against (103 in total) - only Detroit, NJ and SJ are worse.. that's a 3.3GAA per game - difficult to outscore that, even with such a great FW group.
- MaximusAurelius

2.75 with Keefe

improvements

and 2 of those goals were hot garbage against philly

Virtually all of the Leafs Numbers are better with Keefe but keep freaking out Leaf fans.

People are so hard to Dubas it's ridiculous. He signed the entire core when people said he could not and there's not a single contract he can't move.

He will address the backup situation.
- RogerRoeper

I don't think handing out big contracts to RFAs is really something that distinguishes him as being superior to other GMs.

I like what he did getting rid of Marleau.

I liked the trade with Colorado.

And I am on record in the prediction thread as saying that Hutch would be fine, so...

But the lack of a backup goalie is killing this team. If they don't make the playoffs, that will be the reason. Not the defence, not Babcock.

I don't think handing out big contracts to RFAs is really something that distinguishes him as being superior to other GMs.

I like what he did getting rid of Marleau.

I liked the trade with Colorado.

And I am on record in the prediction thread as saying that Hutch would be fine, so...

But the lack of a backup goalie is killing this team. If they don't make the playoffs, that will be the reason. Not the defence, not Babcock.
- Atomic Wedgie

The issue is only in Toronto would William Nylander be considered "Overpaid".

And guess what? In 2-3 years we'll be thankful for those deals while Winnipeg, Tampa's RFAs signed at a "Cheaper" cap hit will want even bigger deals.

Virtually all of the Leafs Numbers are better with Keefe but keep freaking out Leaf fans.
- RogerRoeper

They are 0-1 with their backup goalie under Keefe.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the only number that matters right now.

They are 0-1 with their backup goalie under Keefe.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the only number that matters right now.
- Atomic Wedgie

No, other numbers matter as well.

I don't think handing out big contracts to RFAs is really something that distinguishes him as being superior to other GMs.

I like what he did getting rid of Marleau.

I liked the trade with Colorado.

And I am on record in the prediction thread as saying that Hutch would be fine, so...

But the lack of a backup goalie is killing this team. If they don't make the playoffs, that will be the reason. Not the defence, not Babcock.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think he's been pretty active in his search for a back up goalie. I do think that every team knows the Leafs need a capable backup and no one is willing to help them out via trade.. Unless, Dubas overpays.

Then all we'd hear from Max, is that Dubas failed again

What do people think Laine's cap hit will be in 2 years? I laugh at all this criticism. So short-sightened.

Maybe you're right, maybe McCarty is. Probably a coin flip.
- Zezel

the 'journalist' who wrote the article should be embarrassed that they posted that quote about datsyuk without fact checking it.

would probably make a great blogger on here though.

He got rocked but I didn't like the stoppage.

Only 5 seconds left in the fight (that he was easily winning), he was getting up immediately, and the guy who punched him walked away.

He could've lasted that 5 seconds easy.
- GreatGigInTheSky

That's a tough one Gig, they are saying the ref stopped the fight because of the lip...it kinda makes sense. I hate overeem though so perhaps I am biased.

That's a tough one Gig, they are saying the ref stopped the fight because of the lip...it kinda makes sense. I hate overeem though so perhaps I am biased.
- Aetherial

That lip is so bad I think you have to stop it. What happeneds if he gets another shot on it in the finals 5 seconds?

It's funny how the Leafs "Flaws" are so much bigger than all other teams.

Russian doping officials.
- Atomic Wedgie

WWE refs