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winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
I believe the cap only went up by 2 - 3millie the past couple of years.

I could be wrong....and it could easily be searched.
But Im lazy.

- Fakepartofme





Here you go $5 - $6 million not unrealistic for a one year increase. If league signs a deal for a reasonable number, it should be higher. For comparison the deal signed by the NBA in 2016 was for 24 Billion for 9 years. Not a huge leap of faith to consider the NHL gets half of that number 5 years later. Which would equate to about $4.167 million cap hike based on a 32 team league. That hike would be TV money only. Just sayin.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
fighting majors during the reg season never correlates to winning the cup.
Just looking at the last several cup winners. this is where they ranked in FM

19
7
29
29
29
21

- senstroll

# of fights is directly linked to the amount of dead weight you have on the ice lol with very few exceptions
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 9 @ 3:17 PM ET
Goddamn Finn; you're a soyboy?
- 21peter


What's wrong with soy?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:17 PM ET
Link to where you found this stat, please
- 21peter



tweet
https://twitter.com/Laure...tatus/1203771587859759113

the site I use only has team FM back to 2008. but looks like it checks out
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:19 PM ET
tweet
https://twitter.com/Laure...tatus/1203771587859759113

the site I use only has team FM back to 2008. but looks like it checks out

- senstroll

yeah, I just found it but thanks
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:19 PM ET
# of fights is directly linked to the amount of dead weight you have on the ice lol with very few exceptions
- daeth


you could say the less you fight the more likley you are to win a cup

..you could. but I wont
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
What's wrong with soy?
- TheMussel

I have no idea

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
you could say the less you fight the more likley you are to win a cup

..you could. but I wont

- senstroll

hard hits >> fighting
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:22 PM ET


Here you go $5 - $6 million not unrealistic for a one year increase. If league signs a deal for a reasonable number, it should be higher. For comparison the deal signed by the NBA in 2016 was for 24 Billion for 9 years. Not a huge leap of faith to consider the NHL gets half of that number 5 years later. Which would equate to about $4.167 million cap hike based on a 32 team league. That hike would be TV money only. Just sayin.

- winsix

According to some really back of the envelope math I'm doing, the current contract pays the NHL $200 million per year. Divide that by 2 and then divide that by 32, and you get a contribution of about $3 million per team per year.

From what I'm reading, they hope to double that in the next contract. So a $3 million increase?

It will be very interesting to see if they split it up and sell off rights for streaming, etc. My damn kids watch everything on their phones now.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:23 PM ET
What's wrong with soy?
- TheMussel

1. It's not meat.
2. It's disgusting.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:27 PM ET


Here you go $5 - $6 million not unrealistic for a one year increase. If league signs a deal for a reasonable number, it should be higher. For comparison the deal signed by the NBA in 2016 was for 24 Billion for 9 years. Not a huge leap of faith to consider the NHL gets half of that number 5 years later. Which would equate to about $4.167 million cap hike based on a 32 team league. That hike would be TV money only. Just sayin.

- winsix


The issue with the TV deal is ratings are down year over year. They peaked in 2013. They get around 300,000 for national game sin the US, whites terrible. Hard to se an increase from the broadcasters.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
What's wrong with soy?
- TheMussel


Estrogen mimicker.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
According to some really back of the envelope math I'm doing, the current contract pays the NHL $200 million per year. Divide that by 2 and then divide that by 32, and you get a contribution of about $3 million per team per year.

From what I'm reading, they hope to double that in the next contract. So a $3 million increase?

It will be very interesting to see if they split it up and sell off rights for streaming, etc. My damn kids watch everything on their phones now.

- Atomic Wedgie


I agree, it will be interesting - I think that $3 million is conservative, but if you start to include some other revenues gambling money, streaming as you point out and tapping into the Euro market in some manner it could add up. The other interesting aspect will be if there is any new items on the agenda for the new CBA. I am curious whether there is another "forgive a contract" in the new deal.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
Making 6m per year.
Been jobless for a few weeks.

Oh no.

Jesus

- Fakepartofme


He is jobless.

He is not working in the NHL.

He was fired.

Cool, he is getting paid. You are smart enough to know where I was getting at. I hope at least.

Next you are going to say Loui Erikson is a good hockey player because he is getting paid 6 million a year.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:33 PM ET
And a lot like him.

Who cares either way.

- Fakepartofme


Lol

Yeah because you are in the room right?

Mar Fraser was not?

uh huh
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Dec 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
hard hits >> fighting
- 21peter

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 9 @ 3:37 PM ET
hard hits >> fighting
- 21peter

bong hits? hells ya
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:39 PM ET
I agree, it will be interesting - I think that $3 million is conservative, but if you start to include some other revenues gambling money, streaming as you point out and tapping into the Euro market in some manner it could add up. The other interesting aspect will be if there is any new items on the agenda for the new CBA. I am curious whether there is another "forgive a contract" in the new deal.
- winsix

NHL loves it, NHLPA loves it.

I'd be willing to bet a pitcher and plate of nachos there is some form of it in the next CBA.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
NHL loves it, NHLPA loves it.

I'd be willing to bet a pitcher and plate of nachos there is some form of it in the next CBA.

- Atomic Wedgie


Guaranteed it will happen again. Buy outs not counting against the cap.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
He is jobless.

He is not working in the NHL.

He was fired.


Cool, he is getting paid. You are smart enough to know where I was getting at. I hope at least.

Next you are going to say Loui Erikson is a good hockey player because he is getting paid 6 million a year.

- Santo_44

So was Torts.

So was Vignault

So was Hitch

So was Bowman

So was Quennville

So was Tippett

So was Boudreau

So was Julien

So was...
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
hard hits >> fighting
- 21peter


Does more hard hits = more cups?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:41 PM ET
According to some really back of the envelope math I'm doing, the current contract pays the NHL $200 million per year. Divide that by 2 and then divide that by 32, and you get a contribution of about $3 million per team per year.

From what I'm reading, they hope to double that in the next contract. So a $3 million increase?

It will be very interesting to see if they split it up and sell off rights for streaming, etc. My damn kids watch everything on their phones now.

- Atomic Wedgie


From what I've read that's pretty realistic. Roughly 3 milly per year in growth plus a tv revenue bump of 3-5 in it's first year.

If agents thought that the cap could be something close to 100 milly in the next 3-5 years then you'd bet these kids would be signing nothing but 2 or 3 year deals.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:42 PM ET
So was Torts.

So was Vignault

So was Hitch

So was Bowman

So was Quennville

So was Tippett

So was Boudreau

So was Julien

So was...

- Atomic Wedgie



Horachek?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
From what I've read that's pretty realistic. Roughly 3 milly per year in growth plus a tv revenue bump of 3-5 in it's first year.

If agents thought that the cap could be something close to 100 milly in the next 3-5 years then you'd bet these kids would be signing nothing but 2 or 3 year deals.

- The Law

It's going to be really interesting, because they'll be starting the new TV contract at the same time as a potential lockout.

In theory, it's a great incentive for both the NHL and NHLPA to work together to come up with a compromise to keep playing.

But as the scorpion said to the turtle as they were crossing the Nile...
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
The issue with the TV deal is ratings are down year over year. They peaked in 2013. They get around 300,000 for national game sin the US, whites terrible. Hard to se an increase from the broadcasters.
- aminnes


The deal signed 10 years ago .....equates to about a doubling of the revenue.

My watermelon hasn't gotten any better over the past 20 years but the price keeps jumping. (frank)ing farmers!
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