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sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 5 @ 6:38 PM ET
What are you whining about? All he did was call out the massive error in your statement. You made a stupid comment. At least own that

And I guarantee every single GM in the league would rather have the Leafs roster and cap situation than Ottawa’s. Sens franchise is an embarrassment to the league, and they should fold that team

- AxlRose91


please elaborate which error....i didn't see any

as for the roster....the leafs have more star power, no doubt, but beyond your top 4-5 guys, the leafs roster is a joke.....and it's going to be worse next year

as for your cap situation...... .....leafs are the biggest cap disaster in the league. next season you only have 10 guys under contract (only 1 dman) and 65mil committed. that means you have 16mil to fill more than half your roster.....a roster that has you sitting 3 pts out of a playoff spot, and all the teams you're chasing have 2-3 games in hand.

your team is a tire fire buddy .
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Dec 5 @ 7:22 PM ET
How so???? Are you serious? You guys couldn't afford him, so bye bye Zuccerello/Hayes/likely Krieder. All this and you still had to buy out Shatts who has more points than any D on your roster this season, and has massive cap penalties going forward. Essentially his cap hit + Trouba's contract combine for 14M next season!!! That is insane. I agree it is nice to shelter your prospects like DeAngelo and Fox, but Shatts could have done that. With Smith and Staal still under contract for two more seasons, it just didn't make any financial sense. You spent 8M and Pionk looks just as good as Trouba did in Winnipeg.
- bikeguy99


Ummm, Zucc and Hayes were already gone, so have nothing to do with this scenario. Maybe lose Kreider, maybe not. I like having him here, but he’s not exactly playing himself into a big ticket contract.
As for Shatty, well i can tell you that for whatever reason, he never played like this on Broadway. He had 119 games with us and put up 24 points more than he has so far with Tampa. So, we were supposed to let the market pass by for that? D’Angelo has one point less than Shattenkirk and is making less than a million. Kinda even s it’s out, no? And Trouba has 14 points while starting 58.3% of his shifts in the D zone. Shattenkirk: 43.4%. Trouba also playing 3 minutes more a night.
Also, yes next season blows for dead cap space, but it’s only the one year and the hit from Girardi drops by $2.5M, so that’s something.
Oh, and no Pionk is nothing like Trouba, so he could not look as good. Happy for Pionk, but let’s be serious.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Dec 5 @ 8:23 PM ET
please elaborate which error....i didn't see any

as for the roster....the leafs have more star power, no doubt, but beyond your top 4-5 guys, the leafs roster is a joke.....and it's going to be worse next year

as for your cap situation...... .....leafs are the biggest cap disaster in the league. next season you only have 10 guys under contract (only 1 dman) and 65mil committed. that means you have 16mil to fill more than half your roster.....a roster that has you sitting 3 pts out of a playoff spot, and all the teams you're chasing have 2-3 games in hand.

your team is a tire fire buddy .

- sensarmy_11



I think the roster has more talent throughout than you give them credit for.

But yes, they are a tire fire so far this season.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 5 @ 9:30 PM ET
I think the roster has more talent throughout than you give them credit for.

But yes, they are a tire fire so far this season.

- Aetherial


i think tire fire, in this case, is a relative term.

obviously they're better than Ottawa, but the sens are playing better than expected and seem to be heading in the right direction

the leafs are arguably the most disappointing team in the league, based on expectations (tampa is right there too) and definitely seem to be heading in the wrong direction.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 5 @ 10:03 PM ET
please elaborate which error....i didn't see any

as for the roster....the leafs have more star power, no doubt, but beyond your top 4-5 guys, the leafs roster is a joke.....and it's going to be worse next year

as for your cap situation...... .....leafs are the biggest cap disaster in the league. next season you only have 10 guys under contract (only 1 dman) and 65mil committed. that means you have 16mil to fill more than half your roster.....a roster that has you sitting 3 pts out of a playoff spot, and all the teams you're chasing have 2-3 games in hand.

your team is a tire fire buddy .

- sensarmy_11


You spend a lot of time thinking about the Leafs, huh? Sad for you. I could probably name five players on the Sens. Not just because they’re historically terrible this season, but because they’ve been irrelevant for....well, basically forever. No one outside of Ottawa ever thinks about your team

And you do realize the Leafs could trade Tavares, a guy they acquired for nothing, tomorrow, for a boat load of picks and prospects. Cap situation fixed, pipeline replenished. And still a tonne of high end talent on the team.

We’re 20 games into the season. The universe will correct itself very soon. Sens will finish dead last, Leafs and Bolts will make the playoffs comfortably

And cool emojis


jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Dec 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
How so???? Are you serious? You guys couldn't afford him, so bye bye Zuccerello/Hayes/likely Krieder. All this and you still had to buy out Shatts who has more points than any D on your roster this season, and has massive cap penalties going forward. Essentially his cap hit + Trouba's contract combine for 14M next season!!! That is insane. I agree it is nice to shelter your prospects like DeAngelo and Fox, but Shatts could have done that. With Smith and Staal still under contract for two more seasons, it just didn't make any financial sense. You spent 8M and Pionk looks just as good as Trouba did in Winnipeg.
- bikeguy99


I have never seen someone know so little about what they are talking about on this blog, and I have been on this blog for a long time

just go watch the Devils brah
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Dec 5 @ 10:56 PM ET
I have never seen someone know so little about what they are talking about on this blog, and I have been on this blog for a long time

just go watch the Devils brah

- jimbro83

I'd say it was quite well put together, considering he has no clue


and a big + for a perfect brick
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 6:30 AM ET
You spend a lot of time thinking about the Leafs, huh? Sad for you. I could probably name five players on the Sens. Not just because they’re historically terrible this season, but because they’ve been irrelevant for....well, basically forever. No one outside of Ottawa ever thinks about your team

And you do realize the Leafs could trade Tavares, a guy they acquired for nothing, tomorrow, for a boat load of picks and prospects. Cap situation fixed, pipeline replenished. And still a tonne of high end talent on the team.

We’re 20 games into the season. The universe will correct itself very soon. Sens will finish dead last, Leafs and Bolts will make the playoffs comfortably

And cool emojis

- AxlRose91

Now Leaf fans are hoping for the universe to correct itself. Would that be considered luck?
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 6 @ 6:52 AM ET
You spend a lot of time thinking about the Leafs, huh? Sad for you. I could probably name five players on the Sens. Not just because they’re historically terrible this season, but because they’ve been irrelevant for....well, basically forever. No one outside of Ottawa ever thinks about your team

And you do realize the Leafs could trade Tavares, a guy they acquired for nothing, tomorrow, for a boat load of picks and prospects. Cap situation fixed, pipeline replenished. And still a tonne of high end talent on the team.

We’re 20 games into the season. The universe will correct itself very soon. Sens will finish dead last, Leafs and Bolts will make the playoffs comfortably

And cool emojis

- AxlRose91



you realize that "historically bad" team is just 5 points behind your leafs, with a game in hand.

as for Tavares, please elaborate on which team has both the room to take on a 30 year old player with an 11 million dollar cap hit, and the willingness to give up a boatload of assets. Leafs would either have to eat a significant portion of his cap hit and salary and/or not get much for him.

also, I realize you aren't that smart, but 20 games and 30 games isn't the same.....I know you're living in this delusional leaf homer universe, but reality is that your team is NOWHERE close to as good as some of you numpties thought it was. the leafs will be lucky to sneak in as a wild card team at this point, and even if they do, they're just another easy 1st round knock out for whoever they play. your GMs total mismanagement of contracts and the cap situation has completely (frank)ed this team moving forward......forget your window closing, it's probably never even going to open.

and since you like the emojis

that's how many laugh emojis your train wreck of a team deserves.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 6 @ 6:53 AM ET
Now Leaf fans are hoping for the universe to correct itself. Would that be considered luck?
- Cptmjl


it's the only way that abortion of a team has a chance of making the playoffs
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 6 @ 7:16 AM ET
you realize that "historically bad" team is just 5 points behind your leafs, with a game in hand.

as for Tavares, please elaborate on which team has both the room to take on a 30 year old player with an 11 million dollar cap hit, and the willingness to give up a boatload of assets. Leafs would either have to eat a significant portion of his cap hit and salary and/or not get much for him.

also, I realize you aren't that smart, but 20 games and 30 games isn't the same.....I know you're living in this delusional leaf homer universe, but reality is that your team is NOWHERE close to as good as some of you numpties thought it was. the leafs will be lucky to sneak in as a wild card team at this point, and even if they do, they're just another easy 1st round knock out for whoever they play. your GMs total mismanagement of contracts and the cap situation has completely (frank)ed this team moving forward......forget your window closing, it's probably never even going to open.

and since you like the emojis

that's how many laugh emojis your train wreck of a team deserves.

- sensarmy_11


If you don’t think there are teams who’d jump at the opportunity to acquire Tavares, a guy coming off a 47 goal season, you’re even dumber than I originally thought

Your Sens love picking up Toronto’s garbage. Just imagine how excited they’d be to trade for one of our stars! Though I imagine JT would retire before he ever dressed for that joke of a team

Anyways, I’ll let you go back to obsessing over Toronto again

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 6 @ 7:19 AM ET
If you don’t think there are teams who’d jump at the opportunity to acquire Tavares, a guy coming off a 47 goal season, you’re even dumber than I originally thought

Your Sens love picking up Toronto’s garbage. Just imagine how excited they’d be to trade for one of our stars! Though I imagine JT would retire before he ever dressed for that joke of a team

Anyways, I’ll let you go back to obsessing over Toronto again

- AxlRose91


says the guy who cheers for a team that has spezza, ceci, and ben (frank)ing harper on the roster.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Dec 6 @ 9:50 AM ET
says the guy who cheers for a team that has spezza, ceci, and ben (frank)ing harper on the roster.
- sensarmy_11


Ummm... Ben Harpur is a bottom pairing/healthy scratch on the Marlies. So unsure why you mentioned him.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Dec 6 @ 9:59 AM ET
Ummm... Ben Harpur is a bottom pairing/healthy scratch on the Marlies. So unsure why you mentioned him.
- LeafGuy89


because once Barrie, Muzzin, and Ceci all leave for nothing, and you can't afford to sign anyone else because of your GMs massive cap mismanagement, he'll be in your top 4.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
because once Barrie, Muzzin, and Ceci all leave for nothing, and you can't afford to sign anyone else because of your GMs massive cap mismanagement, he'll be in your top 4.
- sensarmy_11


Man, tell me about it. Must be so nice to cheer for a team where cap management isn’t an issue, because quality hockey players refuse to play there

Tell us again how great Connor Brown is. The guy who couldn’t crack our fourth line. HAHAHAHA





camfor
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special.
Joined: 12.08.2007

Dec 6 @ 1:03 PM ET
Man, tell me about it. Must be so nice to cheer for a team where cap management isn’t an issue, because quality hockey players refuse to play there

Tell us again how great Connor Brown is. The guy who couldn’t crack our fourth line. HAHAHAHA

- AxlRose91

Listen, You guys can beat each other up all day...Really couldn't care less..But you cannot tell me that Brown wouldn't be playing along side some of Toronto's best talent simply because he has a heart beat! The guy brings it every shift, And as an observation, That is something sorely lacking from your team right now. So in short...You would love to have him back, And you know it!
camfor
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special.
Joined: 12.08.2007

Dec 6 @ 1:07 PM ET
Also,
There isn't a GM out there that isn't looking at the situation in Ottawa and salivating at the opportunity to be the one to take over their cap space/ prospect/ picks. This all hinges on ownership changing of course. But Ottawa does have a very bright future if it is managed correctly. With that said history does not bode well for any positives though!
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:07 PM ET
Also,
There isn't a GM out there that isn't looking at the situation in Ottawa and salivating at the opportunity to be the one to take over their cap space/ prospect/ picks. This all hinges on ownership changing of course. But Ottawa does have a very bright future if it is managed correctly. With that said history does not bode well for any positives though!

- camfor


To your point about Connor Brown - he’s small, not physical, and he has 3 goals in 30 games this season. And given the lack of talent on the Sens roster, I have to assume that’s in a top six role. I maintain, Leafs do not need or want him. As a sweetener for absorbing Zaitsev’s horrible contract, it was dirt cheap

Salivating....LOL. The only people salivating in Ottawa are the guys on expiring contracts, salivating at the opportunity to leave town

Your last sentence is completely accurate. Let’s be honest, Ottawa always finds a way to screw things up


Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:29 PM ET
Mapleleafs use primitive analytics.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
Also,
There isn't a GM out there that isn't looking at the situation in Ottawa and salivating at the opportunity to be the one to take over their cap space/ prospect/ picks. This all hinges on ownership changing of course. But Ottawa does have a very bright future if it is managed correctly. With that said history does not bode well for any positives though!

- camfor


https://www.tsn.ca/nikita...is-not-accurate-1.1409256

Hey, Ottawa fans! Something else to salivate over!

BAHAHAAAAAH!!!!

Only in Ottawa, man. What an absolute train wreck
camfor
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special.
Joined: 12.08.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:33 PM ET
To your point about Connor Brown - he’s small, not physical, and he has 3 goals in 30 games this season. And given the lack of talent on the Sens roster, I have to assume that’s in a top six role. I maintain, Leafs do not need or want him. As a sweetener for absorbing Zaitsev’s horrible contract, it was dirt cheap

Salivating....LOL. The only people salivating in Ottawa are the guys on expiring contracts, salivating at the opportunity to leave town

Your last sentence is completely accurate. Let’s be honest, Ottawa always finds a way to screw things up

- AxlRose91

3 goals and 17 points(way to cherry pick stats) 17 points would put him tied for 6th on the Leafs. My point(opinion) stands, The leafs could use more players just like him.
Also if you cannot see the potential for a great future in Ottawa based on the cap space, Prospects, And picks they have....Then carry on with your bashing of Canadian teams not residing in Toronto! Will it pan out for Ottawa? Big, BIG question mark with that one. But On paper the Leafs should be much better than they are playing, Would you not agree? So until the Leafs make it to the stanley cup finals. They have proved nothing. And the potential for all this Ottawa bashing has the potential to blow up in your face.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Dec 6 @ 7:51 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Most overused defender in the NHL this season?
- ToddCordellVAN

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PancakesPenner
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 04.20.2012

Dec 9 @ 8:44 AM ET
You spend a lot of time thinking about the Leafs, huh? Sad for you. I could probably name five players on the Sens. Not just because they’re historically terrible this season, but because they’ve been irrelevant for....well, basically forever. No one outside of Ottawa ever thinks about your team

And you do realize the Leafs could trade Tavares, a guy they acquired for nothing, tomorrow, for a boat load of picks and prospects. Cap situation fixed, pipeline replenished. And still a tonne of high end talent on the team.

We’re 20 games into the season. The universe will correct itself very soon. Sens will finish dead last, Leafs and Bolts will make the playoffs comfortably

And cool emojis

- AxlRose91


You do realize that Tavares has a NMC?
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