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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 4 @ 8:25 AM ET
The answer to that is pretty obvious if you ask me. They need a center for the 4th line. They don't want to break up the Hayes line.
- MJL


Could any of Pitlick, Vorobyov, Andreoff, or Bunnaman player center? If so, why not waive Stewart and recall one of them which would allow you to not have to use more LTIR?

That being said, since Patrick is already on LTIR, do they gain anything by not putting one of Raffl or Morin (if eligible) on LTIR?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 4 @ 8:26 AM ET
“Stewie” isn’t any long term solution that’s why they will call up a replacement. A game or 2 then would likely be no recall......poor NAK
- daryl stanley


Idk why you're so in love with NAK hes not exactly tearing up the AHL
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 4 @ 8:30 AM ET
Idk why you're so in love with NAK hes not exactly tearing up the AHL
- bulet13


I see him as a poor man's Andreas Nodl, which is saying something. Basically a dime a dozen tweener. If we had the lack of farm depth we did in the early 2010s (think Ben Holmstrom, Jon Kalinski, Harry Zolnierczyk, etc.), NAK may have had more of a chance.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 4 @ 8:37 AM ET
Idk why you're so in love with NAK hes not exactly tearing up the AHL
- bulet13

so you think I am a NAK fan? interesting.
fishbulb
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.28.2009

Dec 4 @ 8:38 AM ET
my god why can't people enjoy this team? they have 9 kids under 25 making big contributions including a goalie. they still have a way to go to be a cup contender but are fun to watch. it amazes me with all the but comments. every game....they won but....
- nastyflyergirl


It's because we've been damaged/scarred as fans of this team. Not sure how old you are but some of us have been through a LOT of "almosts" just to have the rug ripped out from under us. After a while, it creates a lot of pessimism. Human nature imo. It will take more than a month or two of promising looking play to soothe most people. I'm loving the ride right now but definitely can't forget the past so quickly.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 4 @ 8:41 AM ET
Could any of Pitlick, Vorobyov, Andreoff, or Bunnaman player center? If so, why not waive Stewart and recall one of them which would allow you to not have to use more LTIR?

That being said, since Patrick is already on LTIR, do they gain anything by not putting one of Raffl or Morin (if eligible) on LTIR?

- jmatchett383


Seems like they're set on keeping Stewart around for reasons. And they probably don't wanna get stuck with only 12 available forwards.

They don't gain anything by putting any more players on LTIR than they need to.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:41 AM ET
Could any of Pitlick, Vorobyov, Andreoff, or Bunnaman player center? If so, why not waive Stewart and recall one of them which would allow you to not have to use more LTIR?

That being said, since Patrick is already on LTIR, do they gain anything by not putting one of Raffl or Morin (if eligible) on LTIR?

- jmatchett383


Still need a 13th forward. They're already using LTIR. There is no downside to placing Raffl on LTIR and calling up a player at this point.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Dec 4 @ 8:45 AM ET
Seems like they're set on keeping Stewart around for reasons. And they probably don't wanna get stuck with only 12 available forwards.

They don't gain anything by putting any more players on LTIR than they need to.

- Tomahawk

stewis is a fill in for a game or 2. He is fine as a 13th fwd as he isn't a prospect who needs to play. Any long term injury they wont use him imo as they know they likely have better options.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 4 @ 8:45 AM ET
Still need a 13th forward. They're already using LTIR. There is no downside to placing Raffl on LTIR and calling up a player at this point.
- MJL


I had forgotten that Patrick was already on LTIR, which means they don't lose anything by putting Raffl or Morin on it as well.
LittleBallofHate
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 12.19.2018

Dec 4 @ 8:51 AM ET
Love the way Hart played last night, and his overall play on home ice. Need to see him play a little more consistent on the road.

Home - GAA 1.48 Sv% .944 - outstanding

Away - GAA 3.78 Sv% .849 - not so much
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 4 @ 8:58 AM ET
It's because we've been damaged/scarred as fans of this team. Not sure how old you are but some of us have been through a LOT of "almosts" just to have the rug ripped out from under us. After a while, it creates a lot of pessimism. Human nature imo. It will take more than a month or two of promising looking play to soothe most people. I'm loving the ride right now but definitely can't forget the past so quickly.
- fishbulb


I’m loving everything right now but also expecting the yearly 10 game losing streak to happen.
Lol
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
I had forgotten that Patrick was already on LTIR, which means they don't lose anything by putting Raffl or Morin on it as well.
- jmatchett383


They might go with Morin in case Raffl is ready to go sooner than expected.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
stewis is a fill in for a game or 2. He is fine as a 13th fwd as he isn't a prospect who needs to play. Any long term injury they wont use him imo as they know they likely have better options.
- daryl stanley


Agreed. Hopefully they keep Laughton with Hayes and Farabee. That line has been really good. Andreoff seems like the obvious choice to be called up. They only have 22 on the roster right now.

The Giroux line was absurd last night. That line outshot the Leafs 10-0, outchanced the Leafs 13-0 and outscored the Leafs 2-0 in 9:06 of even strength time. Wowsers trousers!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
LOVE this quote from Hayes last night

“Yeah, I mean, everyone has a lot of faith in each other,” Hayes said when asked the same question. “This is probably the tightest team I’ve ever played with. Our leaders lead from the front, and it’s easy to follow. It’s a lot of fun to be on the ice. It’s a lot of fun to go to battle every night. And even if the other team scores, we’re not really panicked, and it shows.”

gIrOuX iS a BaD cApTaIn
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 8:59 AM ET
I’m loving everything right now but also expecting the yearly 10 game losing streak to happen.
Lol

- Marc D


That's the fear when playing a lot of tight games. One play or bad bounce and it can go the other way.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 4 @ 9:02 AM ET
I’m loving everything right now but also expecting the yearly 10 game losing streak to happen.
Lol

- Marc D


They will have a slump no doubt. Every team does. However, I do not foresee an extended losing streak with this team. They have played winning hockey this year. Also, the coach knows what buttons to push to motivate.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 4 @ 9:03 AM ET
They might go with Morin in case Raffl is ready to go sooner than expected.
- MJL


Can they take a player off of LTIR and move him to regular IR?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
Agreed. Hopefully they keep Laughton with Hayes and Farabee. That line has been really good. Andreoff seems like the obvious choice to be called up. They only have 22 on the roster right now.

The Giroux line was absurd last night. That line outshot the Leafs 10-0, outchanced the Leafs 13-0 and outscored the Leafs 2-0 in 9:06 of even strength time. Wowsers trousers!

- mickel25


It's ridiculous to play against players like Taveras, Reilly, Matthews and only allow 3 shot attempts in an entire game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
Can they take a player off of LTIR and move him to regular IR?
- jmatchett383


Yes, after 10 games or 24 days. Whichever comes first.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 4 @ 9:06 AM ET
LOVE this quote from Hayes last night

“Yeah, I mean, everyone has a lot of faith in each other,” Hayes said when asked the same question. “This is probably the tightest team I’ve ever played with. Our leaders lead from the front, and it’s easy to follow. It’s a lot of fun to be on the ice. It’s a lot of fun to go to battle every night. And even if the other team scores, we’re not really panicked, and it shows.”

gIrOuX iS a BaD cApTaIn

- arichardson22

and to follow that up Meyers said something along the lines of, "we don't have a bad guy in our locker room...we trust our coaching staff and their system"
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 4 @ 9:06 AM ET
It's ridiculous to play against players like Taveras, Reilly, Matthews and only allow 3 shot attempts in an entire game.
- MJL

WTF happened to Reilly? He was completely irrelevant.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 4 @ 9:07 AM ET
Yes, after 10 games or 24 days. Whichever comes first.
- MJL


Then yes, I'd go with Morin personally.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 4 @ 9:09 AM ET
He looked ok but he still had his share of gaffes. Like passing the puck directly to a leaf in the dzone and failing to hinder Tavares at all early in the game around the crease almost scoring

This game was really a huge Carter Hart game. Kept the game scoreless when it could’ve been at least a 2 goal leaf lead

- Just5

Ghost had a great game and then the lass two shifts he had were not so great, the gaffe as you mentioned was tough, but it's a process and that was a step in the right direction imo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 4 @ 9:14 AM ET
Ghost had a great game and then the lass two shifts he had were not so great, the gaffe as you mentioned was tough, but it's a process and that was a step in the right direction imo.
- ClaudeFather


I'd say his last shift ended nicely.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Dec 4 @ 9:15 AM ET
I'd say his last shift ended nicely.
- jmatchett383

Haha kind of meant prior to that, when the game was still a game.
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