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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:13 PM ET
Why do people keep bringing up Vats? Is he available? He is their 1LD and plays for a GM who loves defensemen. Behind him are Greene, who is about to be put out to pasture, Butcher and Mueller. Not exactly a powerhouse left defense.
- Hockey66

He's in the last year of his deal and NJ isn't going anywhere. He's not officially available, but there's a pretty good chance.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:13 PM ET
We're actually so thin right now that this isn't exciting.
- Tojo.


Hahaha that's what I was thinking...but it really does say something if he's a healthy scratch...

Nice start!
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:22 PM ET
We also got our little pieces (Schultz, Hainsey, Kunitz/Guerin, hell - even "the piece himself": Scuderi), but the last Hall-league player traded to win the cup is far back in the mirror... if you skip Carter '12 (funnily for JJ and a 1st) we're basically talking about our Reechi in '06.
- VeryModernMan

You can't take out Carter though and don't forget Gaborik who was a huge add for the Kings second Cup.

But beyond rentals, there are plenty on teams who added a star forward and won a Cup that year: Kessel, Hossa in Chicago and helped get the Pens to a final, O'Reilly.

It just only works if the team is already good. Often the stud rental goes to a boarderline playoff team trying to make a statement.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:23 PM ET
Hahaha that's what I was thinking...but it really does say something if he's a healthy scratch...

Nice start!

- MattStrat

No, he's sick. And yeah, nice getting a bottom six goal!
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 4 @ 8:24 PM ET
Imagine this defense tonight if Rutherford didn't pull Marino out of thin air.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Dec 4 @ 8:25 PM ET
Imagine this defense tonight if Rutherford didn't pull Marino out of thin air.
- madmike71


Better not.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
The blues know that seam opens in the diamond when they go high low quick.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
I said it before and I’ll say it again: you have to wonder how many more points Kahun would have if he played with Malkin and Jake
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:30 PM ET
The blues no that seam opens in the diamond when they go high low quick.
- Thorny87

Yeah, everyone does, team have adjusted.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 4 @ 8:34 PM ET
We also got our little pieces (Schultz, Hainsey, Kunitz/Guerin, hell - even "the piece himself": Scuderi), but the last Hall-league player traded to win the cup is far back in the mirror... if you skip Carter '12 (funnily for JJ and a 1st) we're basically talking about our Reechi in '06.
- VeryModernMan

So what you are saying is the league is due for a splash move win the cup lol
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 4 @ 8:34 PM ET
I said it before and I’ll say it again: you have to wonder how many more points Kahun would have if he played with Malkin and Jake
- WSCTeton17


Yup. Watching Simon butcher another scoring chance is frustrating.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:35 PM ET
No, he's sick. And yeah, nice getting a bottom six goal!
- Tojo.


Ohhh somehow I missed that little tidbit of info haha...any idea the nature of the illness?
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
Yup. Watching Simon butcher another scoring chance is frustrating.
- madmike71

Spot was there. He missed it by a foot
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
You can't take out Carter though and don't forget Gaborik who was a huge add for the Kings second Cup.

But beyond rentals, there are plenty on teams who added a star forward and won a Cup that year: Kessel, Hossa in Chicago an helped get the Pens to a final, O'Reilly.

It just only works if the team is already good. Often the stud rental goes to a boarderline playoff team trying to make a statement.

- Tojo.

This..all of this
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 4 @ 8:37 PM ET
Ohhh somehow I missed that little tidbit of info haha...any idea the nature of the illness?
- MattStrat


Hockeysuckitis
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
Spot was there. He missed it by a foot
- Thorny87


I like the guy and all, but at some point you have to bury the puck when given repeated opportunities.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 4 @ 8:39 PM ET
Why do people keep bringing up Vats? Is he available? He is their 1LD and plays for a GM who loves defensemen. Behind him are Greene, who is about to be put out to pasture, Butcher and Mueller. Not exactly a powerhouse left defense.
- Hockey66

Could be a case of Vats and Shero not seeing eye to eye on contract discussions. They’re not a playoff team and have other holes to address. This whole thing on keeping Taylor Hall was to sign talent around him to convince him they’re going to be the real deal. It hasn’t happened yet AND Vats hasn’t yet been part of that equation. I’m not saying they should trade him, but he hasn’t been extended obviously

I think they look to bring in a defender and a goalie as part of a Hall trade. They still have Subban, Butcher, and Severson on D with Palmieri, Gusev, Wood, a somewhat resurgent Zacha, Coleman, Hughes, Hischier, Bratt, Boqvist and it certainly looks like they’ll be in the lottery discussion this season. Might as well keep Hall to ensure they win the lottery and then trade his rights
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 4 @ 8:39 PM ET
Hockeysuckitis
- j.boyd919

Hahahahaha
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 4 @ 8:39 PM ET
Yup. Watching Simon butcher another scoring chance is frustrating.
- madmike71

He stickhandled his way right on top of the crease and shot wide. It’s beyond frustrating at this point
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
Tanger breaking ankles
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
Meanwhile, the Blues bottom pair is Dunn-Faulk
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
Hockeysuckitis
- j.boyd919


Hahahah
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
Tanger breaking ankles
- Thorny87

Yeah that was sweet but how many times have we seen him turn that over. Reminds me of when he turns it over when we have an empty net
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
Yeah that was sweet but how many times have we seen him turn that over. Reminds me of when he turns it over when we have an empty net
- WSCTeton17

Yeah. That’s not a move to be attempted with an empty net. Not in that spot anyway.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 8:59 PM ET
I like the guy and all, but at some point you have to bury the puck when given repeated opportunities.
- madmike71

Yeah, I'd rather keep him in a bottom six role, except maybe for sometime like now when there are a lot of injuries.

But Simon does have more ES goals than Kessel and Galchenyuk combined.
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