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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 4 @ 10:23 AM ET
You guys (even Fedzy) are all astonishlingly high on Hall - even "selling the house" for him, but in 9 years* NHL he had "just" one reaching 30 goals and three 60 points seasons... (*in shortened 2012-13 he was on pace for 29 goals). And when you see what L50n achieves, that "bad teams" argument doesn't sell too well as well.
- VeryModernMan



That just one season reaching 30 goals was a 39 goal/93 point season. He is a .90 ppg player for his career playing for very underwhelming sh!tty structured teams. He's an elite player and I think you know that despite posting what you just did.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Dec 4 @ 10:45 AM ET
That just one season reaching 30 goals was a 39 goal/93 point season. He is a .90 ppg player for his career playing for very underwhelming sh!tty structured teams. He's an elite player and I think you know that despite posting what you just did.
- MattStrat


Matt, no question he is a decent winger, but it is still 1 exceptional year out of 9... i think that implied hope that he comes here to play with Sid and posts 90 points seasons in a row is an illusion.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
Matt, no question he is a decent winger, but it is still 1 exceptional year out of 9... i think that implied hope that he comes here to play with Sid and posts 90 points seasons in a row is an illusion.
- VeryModernMan


He’s one of the best wingers in the league. I don’t really know what you’re trying to sell but it’s pretty (frank)ing bad.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
You guys (even Fedzy) are all astonishlingly high on Hall - even "selling the house" for him, but in 9 years* NHL he had "just" one reaching 30 goals and three 60 points seasons... (*in shortened 2012-13 he was on pace for 29 goals). And when you see what L50n achieves, that "bad teams" argument doesn't sell too well as well.
- VeryModernMan

Lmao. Hall is nearly a point per game player for his career. But okay.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 10:53 AM ET
No morning skate, but Rust back on the ice with Schultz!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 4 @ 10:54 AM ET
Matt, no question he is a decent winger, but it is still 1 exceptional year out of 9... i think that implied hope that he comes here to play with Sid and posts 90 points seasons in a row is an illusion.
- VeryModernMan

Who said he would get 90 points per season with Sid?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
Haha - I had to re-read that. I didn't even notice that Rino was suggesting we trade for 3 or more high quality players. I'll be happy if we get one of those guys (in addition to Toffoli who seems like low-hanging fruit).
- Hockey66


Well I said two and depending on how that shakes out, go after the last part.

I also wasn’t sure what the ask was for Pageau, which I mentioned.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 4 @ 10:58 AM ET
No morning skate, but Rust back on the ice with Schultz!
- Tojo.

Getting Rust back is like acquiring Taylor Hall
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 4 @ 10:59 AM ET
Well I said two and depending on how that shakes out, go after the last part.

I also wasn’t sure what the ask was for Pageau, which I mentioned.

- Rinosaur

Pageau has picked a great time to shoot more than double his career shooting percentage
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 11:02 AM ET
Matt, no question he is a decent winger, but it is still 1 exceptional year out of 9... i think that implied hope that he comes here to play with Sid and posts 90 points seasons in a row is an illusion.
- VeryModernMan

Hall has more points in less games than Phil had when we got him. He's also a guy who drives a line rather than be a defensive liability.

I would be concerned about if the injuries are slowing him down though.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 4 @ 11:09 AM ET
Matt, no question he is a decent winger, but it is still 1 exceptional year out of 9... i think that implied hope that he comes here to play with Sid and posts 90 points seasons in a row is an illusion.
- VeryModernMan



Decent? hahaha come on now..."decent" players dont get drafted 1st overall, win Hart Trophies and average almost a point per game their whole career.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 4 @ 11:10 AM ET
I can’t look it up right now, but isn’t Hall usually in the tops in ES goals?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 4 @ 11:21 AM ET
I can’t look it up right now, but isn’t Hall usually in the tops in ES goals?
- Rinosaur



From the 2016-2017 season to the 2018-2019 season he's ranked 112th in ES goals. In all situations he's 63rd. He missed 65 games in that time period though...almost a full season.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Dec 4 @ 11:22 AM ET
I can’t look it up right now, but isn’t Hall usually in the tops in ES goals?
- Rinosaur

He's had a few years where he was.

What's weird is outside his MVP year, he doesn't rack up a lot of PP points. Only one other year with even 20 and that was very early in his career. So you could certainly expect a bump on a more potent offensive team.
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Dec 4 @ 11:37 AM ET
The Oilers will probably send a package to NJ for Hall that include to Draisatl to "make up for a previous mistake"
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 4 @ 12:47 PM ET
Hi guys. Looking for some advice. Planning a trip to Pitt end of Jan to see a game and spend a weekend. Going to get an AirBnB. Any areas you recommend staying, or maybe more importantly, where not to stay?

Thanks.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 4 @ 1:02 PM ET
Hi guys. Looking for some advice. Planning a trip to Pitt end of Jan to see a game and spend a weekend. Going to get an AirBnB. Any areas you recommend staying, or maybe more importantly, where not to stay?

Thanks.

- buckster2342

Are you flying in or driving in
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Dec 4 @ 1:45 PM ET
Hi guys. Looking for some advice. Planning a trip to Pitt end of Jan to see a game and spend a weekend. Going to get an AirBnB. Any areas you recommend staying, or maybe more importantly, where not to stay?

Thanks.

- buckster2342


wait until april, then you can see a real team
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Dec 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
Matt, no question he is a decent winger, but it is still 1 exceptional year out of 9... i think that implied hope that he comes here to play with Sid and posts 90 points seasons in a row is an illusion.
- VeryModernMan


Decent? He is a legit top line winger with elite ability to carry offense for his line. Of course if you can get a player of that caliber you sell the farm.
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 4 @ 2:28 PM ET
Are you flying in or driving in
- jchst22


Driving. And it's 4 of us, me and my wife and my buddy and his wife. Ages 28-32, so want to be semi-near bars/nightlife.

From my limited research, I was looking at North Shore or South Side, but South Side looks a bit sketchy.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 4 @ 3:30 PM ET
Driving. And it's 4 of us, me and my wife and my buddy and his wife. Ages 28-32, so want to be semi-near bars/nightlife.

From my limited research, I was looking at North Shore or South Side, but South Side looks a bit sketchy.

- buckster2342


Fred’s Divot in Ambridge. Best night life ever. Get too drunk, head behind the building and snag a crack rock to wake your ass back up.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 4 @ 3:37 PM ET
Driving. And it's 4 of us, me and my wife and my buddy and his wife. Ages 28-32, so want to be semi-near bars/nightlife.

From my limited research, I was looking at North Shore or South Side, but South Side looks a bit sketchy.

- buckster2342

I’d recommend north shore myself. I’m from your same age group and go there often when I drive down to Pittsburgh. Close to downtown and can take the T anywhere for free. Drops you off right by the stadium also so no need for a DD

Not sure how good the Air bnb s are there but there’s a good bit of hotels to try.

South side you might find a younger crowd who go there to try to look like idiots most nights
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
Since you guys have been talking Hall so much: https://twitter.com/ineff.../1200832632571023360?s=21

Those are some really good numbers. His injury history is concerning but I think he’s worth selling the farm for. I would gladly give up Chucky, Jarry, our 1st this year, and a 3rd if he extends with the Pens. When you look back at what star players command I just don’t know if it’s enough
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Dec 4 @ 4:22 PM ET
I'd look into Kyle Palmeri as well as Toffoli
- willi

I thought about Palmieri, too, but I highly doubt they trade him, especially if they are trading Hall, which looks like a foregone conclusion, as Palmieri is their second best winger behind Hall.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Dec 4 @ 4:58 PM ET
And then Hall gets injured (again), and Pens look pretty stupid giving up 5(!) pieces for a little dreaming... again(!).
- VeryModernMan

If there is any way to agree to an extension prior to the trade, that would make all the difference.
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