Cant wait to see a 4th line of Raffl-Laughton-Pitlick

I legit think that will be a great 4th line

#NoSarcasm
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I assume you have this in mind for when Patrick comes back, correct (move JVR up a line and Laughton down and you have that now)? Who sits at that point?

I personally think that SSB is misunderstood. I think he's right about some things and wrong about a lot of things. Mostly in the way he frames his argument. I think he's right about what this team has issues with. I think he's wrong about not taking into consideration that this is an ongoing process. The close games are an issue that is concerning. Going from a team that consistently squeaks out wins to a team that wins convincingly most of the time is part of the ongoing process. That will happen when one, the younger players continue to get better. Two when the veteran players relied on for offense become more consistent. The latter is what can lift this team the quickest in my opinion. If that happens and they continue to get good goaltending, this team can compete. The coaching staff is building the foundation. The addition of veteran players in key roles have fixed the PK which is a boost. They're a solid defensive team and they seem to be playing Vigneault's overload puck pressure systems well. However some players still need to adjust to that and how to get more offense within it.
The results through November are overwhelmingly positive. Lets hope they keep moving forward.
- MJL

No, I’m completely in agreement that it’s a process and I’m not arguing that. During the process, with the upgrades we made, I’m pointing out, these are the areas I want cleaned up. Konecny, Provorov and Lindblom as young players are having outstanding seasons. So where are the vets not named Elliott and Niskanen when we need them?

All teams have bad losses. Edmonton who is 1st in their division lost to Detroit. Nashville got pounded for 9GA against Colorado. Boston not only lost to Detroit but lost a stretch of 5 games as well.

Poop happens.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I think Colorado is or at least is very close to being very good.

I don’t think our forward depth is that impressive.
- SuperSchennBros

isn't that a shame

All I know is we are not discussing Hextall, Hakstol and the locker room dime dropper former NHL player masquerading as a coach, team snacks,gluten free pizza, or whatever and the like..how long ago was that ???...just about a year ago exactly....

I am not going to drag up an old thread and link it as an example, but as fans are we not having much more fun watching this team at this moment in time as they grow ?
The new GM, the new coaching staff, the holes plugged everyone stated (but still debated and thats ok) youngsters in the mix. They are trying things, giving as many AHL prospects looks as needed/deserved.

A quarter of an on ice season with a full makeover of the executive & on ice staff, a work in progress and I am not going to micro armchair GM manage it...I am going to savor it
- RajaAmpat

We may not be talking about Hextall but we should be. We're starting to see some of the returns on what he did. Also some of the returns on the hard development years that Hakstol was a part of.

I'm enjoying the team more this year than last. I think that's true for everyone. However I'm not losing sight of the big picture. As a fan, I won't be fully satisfied just being a good team that is always in the playoffs like it was under Holmgren. I'm hoping the front office puts a pause on always wanting to be a cap team, signing UFA's etc and just let what's developing develop.

It doesnt matter if you make it in the 8th round on the last day of the season or you make it as a first overall team...If you dont win a round then it's a failure.

Not sure how your expectations are higher than mine knowing the above.
- opeth_pa

I think there is zero reason for the Flyers to be an 8th place team, squeezing in the last day. That’s unacceptable to make.

Unless Couturier is having a 40 goal, 90 point season, he shouldn’t be out producing G and Jake.

I think there is zero reason for the Flyers to be an 8th place team, squeezing in the last day. That’s unacceptable to make.
- SuperSchennBros

The last time that happened didn’t they get to the cup finals? I’m not as concerned with the how.

I think there is zero reason for the Flyers to be an 8th place team, squeezing in the last day. That’s unacceptable to make.

Unless Couturier is having a 40 goal, 90 point season, he shouldn’t be out producing G and Jake.
- SuperSchennBros

They're all within two points of each other. Coots outscored Jake last year. I would suggest you're undervaluing Coots.

I assume you have this in mind for when Patrick comes back, correct (move JVR up a line and Laughton down and you have that now)? Who sits at that point?
- BenderRodriguez

They could do it now.

G - Frost - Konecny
Lindblom - Coots - Vowacek
JVR - Hayes - Farabee
Raffl - Laughton - Pitlick

Someone likely has to go next tear when NoPa returns

All I know is we are not discussing Hextall, Hakstol and the locker room dime dropper former NHL player masquerading as a coach, team snacks,gluten free pizza, or whatever and the like..how long ago was that ???...just about a year ago exactly....

I am not going to drag up an old thread and link it as an example, but as fans are we not having much more fun watching this team at this moment in time as they grow ?
The new GM, the new coaching staff, the holes plugged everyone stated (but still debated and thats ok) youngsters in the mix. They are trying things, giving as many AHL prospects looks as needed/deserved.

A quarter of an on ice season with a full makeover of the executive & on ice staff, a work in progress and I am not going to micro armchair GM manage it...I am going to savor it
- RajaAmpat

Most of us are.

They could do it now.

G - Frost - Konecny
Lindblom - Coots - Vowacek
JVR - Hayes - Farabee
Raffl - Laughton - Pitlick

Someone likely has to go next tear when NoPa returns
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Sure. If/when JVR starts potting his chances, I would much rather see him on that 3rd line. Just a matter of time. That is a solid 4th line (is today as well).

We may not be talking about Hextall but we should be. We're starting to see some of the returns on what he did. Also some of the returns on the hard development years that Hakstol was a part of.

I'm enjoying the team more this year than last. I think that's true for everyone. However I'm not losing sight of the big picture. As a fan, I won't be fully satisfied just being a good team that is always in the playoffs like it was under Holmgren. I'm hoping the front office puts a pause on always wanting to be a cap team, signing UFA's etc and just let what's developing develop.
- MJL

Sure Hextall made no financial commitments and TANKED to get here.

He also may have NEVER have allowed his toadie to make the moves that are making them so exciting right now. Including ditching the toadie Hakstol and having Farabee and Frost and Hart have important roles.

But you'll come up with something I'm sure to romanticize his years and refuse to accept that his rope wore out. Any GM with the years and leeway he had could have done what he did.

You love him and hate Hinkie I bet.

We may not be talking about Hextall but we should be. We're starting to see some of the returns on what he did. Also some of the returns on the hard development years that Hakstol was a part of.

I'm enjoying the team more this year than last. I think that's true for everyone. However I'm not losing sight of the big picture. As a fan, I won't be fully satisfied just being a good team that is always in the playoffs like it was under Holmgren. I'm hoping the front office puts a pause on always wanting to be a cap team, signing UFA's etc and just let what's developing develop.
- MJL

I had my issues with Hextall but I did NOT want him fired. The turn around is because of him and a signing like Kevin Hayes doesn’t happen on his watch. If you want Hayes at 5.5 or maybe 6 million, I get it, but not at 7.14 million. I think JvR is a special case because JvR is a potential 40 goal scorer and a two time former 60 point player. We were weak on the left side, so it made sense and players put in a word for JvR.

They're all within two points of each other. Coots outscored Jake last year. I would suggest you're undervaluing Coots.
- BenderRodriguez

Not undervalue Coots at all. Jake hasn’t been playing to his potential for a very long time.

The last time that happened didn’t they get to the cup finals? I’m not as concerned with the how.
- Ftown19125

Is this current team as good as the 2010 team?

Sure Hextall made no financial commitments and TANKED to get here.

He also may have NEVER have allowed his toadie to make the moves that are making them so exciting right now. Including ditching the toadie Hakstol and having Farabee and Frost and Hart have important roles.

But you'll come up with something I'm sure to romanticize his years and refuse to accept that his rope wore out. Any GM with the years and leeway he had could have done what he did.

You love him and hate Hinkie I bet.
- DrMidnite

You recently suggested that the Flyers trade Farabee and Myers for Drouin. I don't think I need to respond to your rhetoric above.

Not undervalue Coots at all. Jake hasn’t been playing to his potential for a very long time.
- SuperSchennBros

Do you think, perhaps, Coots is just a better player than him? I agree that he's been underperforming, but I wouldn't say his point totals are a huge detriment to the team. In fact, I would say that the offensive depth is the reason the team is currently performing so well.

Is this current team as good as the 2010 team?
- SuperSchennBros

I think it's pretty darn close. This team has the talent to make some noise. Whether they can put it all together is the question.

Do you think, perhaps, Coots is just a better player than him? I agree that he's been underperforming, but I wouldn't say his point totals are a huge detriment to the team. In fact, I would say that the offensive depth is the reason the team is currently performing so well.
- BenderRodriguez

I think that Voracek under performing for most of the season at an 8+M cap hit is a significant detriment to the team. The biggest reasons why the team is performing so well is the combination of it's team defensive play, goaltending and the PK. A couple of young player in Konecny and Lindblom are scoring well. There is no doubt that if Giroux, Voracek, Hayes and vanRiemsdyke score as well as they're capable of, the Flyers will be a significantly better team.

I think that Voracek under performing for most of the season at an 8+M cap hit is a significant detriment to the team. The biggest reasons why the team is performing so well is the combination of it's team defensive play, goaltending and the PK. A couple of young player in Konecny and Lindblom are scoring well. There is no doubt that if Giroux, Voracek, Hayes and vanRiemsdyke score as well as they're capable of, the Flyers will be a significantly better team.
- MJL

But that hasn't prohibited them from being successful, lately. Obviously, they're a better team with everyone performing at top level.

Fourth in Conference, 1 point out of third in Conf.
3rd in division , 1 point out of second.
Sixth in league..
Lead the league in points for November .


No wait, Flyers suck cause reasons.
- opeth_pa

The lost points don't seem like much today, but they count the same as they do in March. They close out the Isles and the Flames and they are third in the conference and second in the division.

Imagine if they miss the playoffs by a point. Leading the league in points in Nov would be meaningless, while not closing out games would matter a lot.

But that hasn't prohibited them from being successful, lately. Obviously, they're a better team with everyone performing at top level.
- BenderRodriguez

Are we looking big picture or small picture? They had a great November but the season is long. What would give them a better chance in the playoffs?

I think it's important to remember what the real goal is.

You recently suggested that the Flyers trade Farabee and Myers for Drouin. I don't think I need to respond to your rhetoric above.
- MJL

No, I asked would you do it?

No one takes you or your response spam seriously either chief.

During the times I drop in.

Good to know when entropy reigns, that you will still be here. Not really knowing anything. But trying to shame others.

You. Troll.

No, I asked would you do it?

No one takes you or your response spam seriously either chief.

During the times I drop in.

Good to know when entropy reigns, that you will still be here. Not really knowing anything. But trying to shame others.

You. Troll.
- DrMidnite

You didn't ask if anyone would do it. You suggested it. It was ridiculously absurd. That's a case of "well if you have to ask"

I guess you think that your response to me was genuine in the interest of having a reasonable conversation? Then you call me a troll!

Is this current team as good as the 2010 team?
- SuperSchennBros

I don’t really think so right now. But that’s not really the point. The point is that they got in on their last game in a shootout. If they lose none of that happens. As good as that team was, I didn’t give a (frank) that that it took them until the last game of the season.