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plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
What year is this? Benn looks washed-up and Stars fans want him gone. He's now a 50 point player getting 9.5 per until he's 36.

I would not take any of those 3 over Nylander. Nylander unlike them is entering his prime years.

- RogerRoeper


you might want to look at Stars games last playoffs.
Benn is still a great player.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Nov 30 @ 10:01 AM ET
All are better players than Nylander. Benn about 2 times better. Johansen and Voracek significantly better as well.
It's not a 'Harlem Globetrotters' individual points league.

- plantheparade


The problem is they are much older. Nylander can still grow into his contract and make it look even better. Those players just get worse and worse as the years go by. I would take Nylander over them any day.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 30 @ 10:02 AM ET
you might want to look at Stars games last playoffs.
Benn is still a great player.

- plantheparade


53 points last season for 9.5. He's 31 and is being paid for his past his prime years. Everyone in hockey thinks that contract looks terrible now. Nylander's deal is for his 22-28 years in age.

Benn is on pace for 48 points this year FYI. You really think that's a better deal than Nylander getting 6.9?

53 points and 48 for 9.5 for a guy in his 30's. Ouch.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 30 @ 10:03 AM ET
The problem is they are much older. Nylander can still grow into his contract and make it look even better. Those players just get worse and worse as the years go by. I would take Nylander over them any day.
- matt1337


This. Nylander is 23.

Jamie benn has 5 goals, 13 points in 27 games....He' clearly regressing in his 30's and is past his prime.
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 30 @ 10:04 AM ET

What's up with a couple rumours I've heard that Matthews is physically out of shape this year. Anything to it, or just people making up poop?
Though still dominate, he still seems a bit off. But that could just mean, Keefe is pushing the pace a lot more. Take him a bit to get use to it.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
What's up with a couple rumours I've heard that Matthews is physically out of shape this year. Anything to it, or just people making up poop?
Though still dominate, he still seems a bit off. But that could just mean, Keefe is pushing the pace a lot more. Take him a bit to get use to it.

- Buck Norris


If he's out of shape it's not showing on the stats sheet.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 30 @ 10:06 AM ET
This. Nylander is 23.

Jamie benn has 5 goals, 13 points in 27 games....He' clearly regressing in his 30's and is past his prime.

- RogerRoeper


And Willi has the better hair as well.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 30 @ 10:06 AM ET
And Willi has the better hair as well.
- VeryModernMan


There's no prettier player than Willy. Damn he's gorgeous.

I have a theory that guys hate Nylander for his looks.
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Nov 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
This. Nylander is 23.

Jamie benn has 5 goals, 13 points in 27 games....He' clearly regressing in his 30's and is past his prime.

- RogerRoeper


Imagine they traded Nylander for Benn. All the people complaining about Nylander would turn and start complaining about Benn and how his contract is a huge hinderence.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 30 @ 10:09 AM ET
Imagine they traded Nylander for Benn. All the people complaining about Nylander would turn and start complaining about Benn and how his contract is a huge hinderence.
- matt1337



It's weird. Even when Clayton Keller got his new deal people were saying its' a great signing for Arizona. Huh? 7.15 for worse stats than Willy and much more TOI?

Someone has to explain to me how 6.9 is bad for a 23 year-old only signed in his prime years who puts up those stats.

The Coyle deal Boston just signed? Dubas would be destroyed for it.

16 of 31 teams are up against the cap, but Leafs are truly in cap hell!!!!
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Nov 30 @ 10:09 AM ET
Hey guys, I believe when Matthews doesn't play a great game, he comes back the next game with a vengeance. My Sabres better be ready or it may be a long night.
- sabreadvocate1

Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 30 @ 10:14 AM ET
If he's out of shape it's not showing on the stats sheet.
- RogerRoeper


A lot more mental mistakes. But that can be fixed
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Nov 30 @ 10:33 AM ET
There's no prettier player than Willy. Damn he's gorgeous.
- RogerRoeper


Not that i can judge this, but can imagine that Aho comes close in girls minds.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 10:37 AM ET
Ryan Miller 50% retained for Hutch, Timo and whatever pick gets it done.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
Holy $hit Dubas needs to trade for a backup NOW. Guaranteed loss with Hutch between the pipes. Even if we give up a bit too much, get it done!

Freddie in net and we coast to a victory last night. Those lost points could bite us
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Korshkov for Jarry?

He’s perfect but will be pricey...
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 30 @ 10:57 AM ET
Holy $hit Dubas needs to trade for a backup NOW. Guaranteed loss with Hutch between the pipes. Even if we give up a bit too much, get it done!

Freddie in net and we coast to a victory last night. Those lost points could bite us

- AxlRose91


If we had just an average backup we'd be so much higher in the standings. We have 1 point with our backup. `1.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 30 @ 11:00 AM ET
Patrick Berglund's agent forgot to send in his No Trade list when he was traded...wtf?
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
Patrick Berglund's agent forgot to send in his No Trade list when he was traded...wtf?
- AdamFrench



Choices: a) play for the Sabres and make $13 million
b) retire and make Garth really mad
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 30 @ 11:20 AM ET
If we had just an average backup we'd be so much higher in the standings. We have 1 point with our backup. `1.
- RogerRoeper


Even after another bad outing no change will probably happen. The way the whole team got together to support and wanted Hutch back instead of the organization trading for someone speaks volumes. Because Hutch is such a nice guy personnally they wanna try to get his game on track. Doesn't matter how bad he has been, its live or die by the Hutch for the time being IMO.
CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.22.2012

Nov 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
All are better players than Nylander. Benn about 2 times better. Johansen and Voracek significantly better as well.
It's not a 'Harlem Globetrotters' individual points league.

- plantheparade


exactly , a lot of those players bring size and grit....something nylander will never bring....
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
Even after another bad outing no change will probably happen. The way the whole team got together to support and wanted Hutch back instead of the organization trading for someone speaks volumes. Because Hutch is such a nice guy personnally they wanna try to get his game on track. Doesn't matter how bad he has been, its live or die by the Hutch for the time being IMO.
- Buck Norris

I'd bet the Leafs make a move by Tuesday.

Hutch has been awful here.

They have 4 wins in 21 games with a backup in net the past 2 seasons. They will trade for someone, even if its just a gamble.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 11:31 AM ET
exactly , a lot of those players bring size and grit....something nylander will never bring....
- CarlitoBrigante

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Nov 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
Should have played Freddy in all 3 games this week, if the Leafs lose tonight.....
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
Should have played Freddy in all 3 games this week, if the Leafs lose tonight.....
- bobbyisno1

Should just trade for a backup
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