At least 2 and both Brindamour and Jeff Skinner have made comments in support of Aliu's position.

Keep bringing up a narrative that is total gaslighting.
- Elbows15

Lets clarify this.

There were two players on the rockford icehogs who back up the story about the music incident. "Brindamour and Jeff Skinner have made comments in support of Aliu's position"; they were not in rockford or played on Calgary. So that means they know Peters is a racist or an abusive coach?

If I could recommend a wonderful fantastic book for the tree huggin lib and the "fair and balanced" teabaggin confederate and their sympathizers. Answered most every question I've ever had about the confederecy that 100 books didn't and gave the confederate a platform to tell you why he sees the world the way he does.

Strangers In Their Own Land: https://thenewpress.com/b.../strangers-their-own-land
- Mr Ricochet

I read it - fear of “the other” and “the other” getting something I’m not getting.

Don't worry, you get credit for running to the front of the line to show your outrage some 10 years after the event.

How many other people have come forward with music complaints from Peters...or any racial complaint over the past 10 years?

People of all walks of life say stupid poop every day. Most realize and own up to it, apologize and learn. Others...well smart people just come to know them as idiots and do not really associate with them much after. That used to be enough.

Now we are only left to wonder how many lives this man destroyed by rudely characterizing someones music? Does anyone really need to hear someone of authority say that Peters was an idiot for saying what he said? Don't we all pretty much know it?

How many ice hogs have come out in support or have added to or amplified Aliu's claims?
- TrueGrit

Well said......... The guy who calls the guy a negro, kicks people deserves a say and those who deny him that are socialists afraid of discourse for not allowing even a nazi voice to the table of ideas/explanations. We also need to, as you point out, need to look at the person(s) making such claims. Indeed, investigate the investigators. The deep state of the hockey world needs a light shone on it and their movement.

Lets clarify this.

There were two players on the rockford icehogs who back up the story about the music incident. "Brindamour and Jeff Skinner have made comments in support of Aliu's position"; they were not in rockford or played on Calgary. So that means they know Peters is a racist or an abusive coach?
- Topshelf2010

Brind’amour and Skinner confirmed the physical abuse committed by Taylor - the 2 Ice Hogs confirmed the racist comments.

Yeah - confirms that Peters is a racist and abusive coach.

How much more evidence do you want?

Let's see how the Hawks rebound tonight.

I expect Wedin to play but not sure if McCoshem gets in the game. I think he was just called up as insurance and for Colliton to get a good look at the new guy up close.

If it's Koekkoek that goes tonight in Keith's place what does everyone think for the d pairings?

Maatta - Murphy
De Haan - Seabrook
Koekkoek - Gus

It's going to have to be a team effort back there to make up for #2's absence.

The Jews will not replace us. "There are good on both sides" "Just grab their vagina, I do it all the time". Just boys being boys with their locker room talk......... How could anyone misconstrue that there are two sides to a story, that everyone deserves a voice at the table of ideas and that equals "fair and balanced"?
- Mr Ricochet

Nazis had a right to march in Charlottesville and to present their ideas - as they did in Skokie 50 years ago. The constitution guarantees it, and we are all freer because of it.

But there aren’t two sides to being in the right. There were not “good people on both sides” in Charlottesville - if you march with Nazis and Klansmen and other racists, you ARE as bad as they are.

If you defend their views as somehow being legitimate equal ideas....the right to be heard does not mean that what you heard is right.

Too many collaborators here today...enjoy the game tonite.

I read it - fear of “the other” and “the other” getting something I’m not getting.
- StLBravesFan

Safe to assume you've read The Populist Movement? Fascinating look at the fascist right wing populism of Europe then and now. Indeed, it's "the other", always "the other". ........... Lefty populism is always it's us, the robber barons for instance.

How bout "How Democracies Die"? Fascinating look a the death of many democaracies with constitutions nearly word for word as ours by two deep state professors from Ivy League schools written before the Trumpanzee Crime Wave took over. A play by play book that Trumanzee seems to have read and follows word for word.

Nazis had a right to march in Charlottesville and to present their ideas - as they did in Skokie 50 years ago. The constitution guarantees it, and we are all freer because of it.

But there aren’t two sides to being in the right. There were not “good people on both sides” in Charlottesville - if you march with Nazis and Klansmen and other racists, you ARE as bad as they are.

If you defend their views as somehow being legitimate equal ideas....the right to be heard does not mean that what you heard is right.

Too many collaborators here today...enjoy the game tonite.
- StLBravesFan

Oh kind sir this is where you are wrong. You are not the one to tell the tea baggin confederate that those who chant the jews will not replace us are wrong. Just cuz YOU think it's wrong doesn't make it so. You are telling 40 million people who voted for the guy who says some of those chanters are good people to shut up????????????????? What makes YOU and your kind right and the confederate or nazi wrong?

No sir, "fair and balanced".

So you were there and have documented proof of hazing and abuse? You know that no other player(S) experience similar abuse of all persuasions?

I may have missed it here or in the news.

Ultimately what we all should be hoping for is a world free of feigned outrage and virtue signaling BS. A world free of guilt by accusation.
- TrueGrit

He didn't have to be. Peters admitted the racial slurs occurred in his letter to management. Steve Downie was suspended for 5 games and the team's coach, Moe Mantha was banned for 40 games in addition to a team fine after the OHL investigated the hazing incident.

Oh kind sir this is where you are wrong. You are not the one to tell the tea baggin confederate that those who chant the jews will not replace us are wrong. Just cuz YOU think it's wrong doesn't make it so. You are telling 40 million people who voted for the guy who says some of those chanters are good people to shut up????????????????? What makes YOU and your kind right and the confederate or nazi wrong?

No sir, "fair and balanced".
- Mr Ricochet

Who am I to tell....

How about I’m an American Jew who lost relatives that I had never met in the Holocaust - who most certainly would have been consumed myself in the camps or blood lands of Eastern Europe had not my grandparents had the foresight - and good fortune - to leave the Pale of Settlement and come to Ellis Island....

And about people who voted for a man who says that those who march with Nazis are good people - who brags about grabbing women by their pussies - who screws strippers and Playboy playmates while his wife is pregnant with their son and then pays them off to keep quiet - who is accused by 19 women of sexual assault - especially the hypocritical right-wing evangelicals - yeah, as an American, I have the right to say they were wrong.

If you want to defend the Nazi’s and Klansmen’s and other racists’ right to espouse their views - I’m right there with you.

But don’t tell me that their racist, anti-Semitic, ANTI-AMERICAN ideas and views have equal, “fair and balanced” validity.

Who am I to tell....

How about I’m an American Jew who lost relatives that I had never met in the Holocaust - who most certainly would have been consumed myself in the camps or blood lands of Eastern Europe had not my grandparents had the foresight - and good fortune - to leave the Pale of Settlement and come to Ellis Island....

And about people who voted for a man who says that those who march with Nazis are good people - who brags about grabbing women by their pussies - who screws strippers and Playboy playmates while his wife is pregnant with their son and then pays them off to keep quiet - who is accused by 19 women of sexual assault - especially the hypocritical right-wing evangelicals - yeah, as an American, I have the right to say they were wrong.

If you want to defend the Nazi’s and Klansmen’s and other racists’ right to espouse their views - I’m right there with you.

But don’t tell me that their racist, anti-Semitic, ANTI-AMERICAN ideas and views have equal, “fair and balanced” validity.
- StLBravesFan

God Bless you and yours, Sage. The hate will never ever ever ever ever ever go away. It may lie dormant until an absolute burn in fu*$&#@ hell, backed by FORTY MILLION and The American Taliban, comes along and gives it the ok to come out and play, but it's always there.

Keep on tellin the story Sage cuz as you can plainly see 40 million back the guy who says there are good people in that movement. And they say why are you right and us and our views and understanding of history with our facts wrong???????

What Aliu was as a player is totally irrelevant. Yet, you and others bring it up as some sort of justification for Peters actions.

If you can't grasp that using that word in any context to a person who, you know, has been called that word is wrong, I don't know what to tell you.
- Elbows15

Your fake moral outrage is hilarious. So when a African American calls another African American the n word it's not racist but when someone else uses it then everyone has to be so outraged that we burn everything down.

I've been called a cracker , that's racist but the people who want to decry and play the race card seem to overlook when it doesnt fit a narrative or political agenda.

Nobody is perfect but the same people pushing a narrative that America is a racist country and these social justice warriors seem to think its ok to do as they say but not as they do and if you don't agree to conform to their thinking than they will shut you down .

Try going to another country and speaking up if you think this country is so awful. They will lock you up, stone you or even worse murder you.

Try realizing that life isn't perfect , but your more fortunate than millions of other people who truly live in fear and poverty

No we are not, read Aliu's tweet, he brings up what he was as a player and how his trajectory changed.

Clearly there is no justification, I have pointed it out. Nice try.
- TrueGrit

It doesn't change the fact it is irrelevant no matter who brings it up. Though, who are you to say it didn't have a lasting impression on him which may have caused himto never trust any advice he may have received from a coach?

You don't. No one does. None of which changes the fact Peters is a poopty human being. But again, you can't see what the real issue is here.

Let's see how the Hawks rebound tonight.

I expect Wedin to play but not sure if McCoshem gets in the game. I think he was just called up as insurance and for Colliton to get a good look at the new guy up close.

If it's Koekkoek that goes tonight in Keith's place what does everyone think for the d pairings?

Maatta - Murphy
De Haan - Seabrook
Koekkoek - Gus

It's going to have to be a team effort back there to make up for #2's absence.
- Tyler Cameron

Tyler, dont know about anyone else but that 3rd pair scares me. Maybe flip 4K and DeHaan?

Let's see how the Hawks rebound tonight.

I expect Wedin to play but not sure if McCoshem gets in the game. I think he was just called up as insurance and for Colliton to get a good look at the new guy up close.

If it's Koekkoek that goes tonight in Keith's place what does everyone think for the d pairings?

Maatta - Murphy
De Haan - Seabrook
Koekkoek - Gus

It's going to have to be a team effort back there to make up for #2's absence.
- Tyler Cameron

I would roll those D pairs as well. While the pairings aren't ideal, it is an opportunity to see what life may be like without Keith in the lineup.

Certain players may step up and show that they can rise to the challenge while others may remain who we know them to be.

If McCoshen does draw in at any point, he's replacing Koekkoek. Lower chance he replaces Gustafsson but could happen.

Your fake moral outrage is hilarious. So when a African American calls another African American the n word it's not racist but when someone else uses it then everyone has to be so outraged that we burn everything down.

I've been called a cracker , that's racist but the people who want to decry and play the race card seem to overlook when it doesnt fit a narrative or political agenda.

Nobody is perfect but the same people pushing a narrative that America is a racist country and these social justice warriors seem to think its ok to do as they say but not as they do and if you don't agree to conform to their thinking than they will shut you down .

Try going to another country and speaking up if you think this country is so awful. They will lock you up, stone you or even worse murder you.

Try realizing that life isn't perfect , but your more fortunate than millions of other people who truly live in fear and poverty
- Taylorst1

Your fake concept of patriotism is sickening. There is no point even discussing this with someone who has no clue how racist this country is.

Who am I to tell....

How about I’m an American Jew who lost relatives that I had never met in the Holocaust - who most certainly would have been consumed myself in the camps or blood lands of Eastern Europe had not my grandparents had the foresight - and good fortune - to leave the Pale of Settlement and come to Ellis Island....

And about people who voted for a man who says that those who march with Nazis are good people - who brags about grabbing women by their pussies - who screws strippers and Playboy playmates while his wife is pregnant with their son and then pays them off to keep quiet - who is accused by 19 women of sexual assault - especially the hypocritical right-wing evangelicals - yeah, as an American, I have the right to say they were wrong.

If you want to defend the Nazi’s and Klansmen’s and other racists’ right to espouse their views - I’m right there with you.

But don’t tell me that their racist, anti-Semitic, ANTI-AMERICAN ideas and views have equal, “fair and balanced” validity.
- StLBravesFan

Nah. Siding with people who celebrate genocide is "fair and balanced"

Your fake concept of patriotism is sickening. There is no point even discussing this with someone who has no clue how racist this country is.
- Elbows15

I'm sorry you feel that way. But clearly you don't have facts to back up your claims or beliefs.
Also to question ones patriotism is truly appalling and shows just how naive you are of facts and reality.
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Nice podcast about the Rockettes

https://www.nbcsports.com...ther-blackhawks-prospects
- gazza53

Thanks, gazza. Here's another podcast on prospects:

https://www.secondcityhoc...-2019-20-mitchell-boqvist

Let's see how the Hawks rebound tonight.

I expect Wedin to play but not sure if McCoshem gets in the game. I think he was just called up as insurance and for Colliton to get a good look at the new guy up close.

If it's Koekkoek that goes tonight in Keith's place what does everyone think for the d pairings?

Maatta - Murphy
De Haan - Seabrook
Koekkoek - Gus

It's going to have to be a team effort back there to make up for #2's absence.
- Tyler Cameron

That pairing would be a disaster.

I'm sorry you feel that way. But clearly you don't have facts to back up your claims or beliefs.
Also to question ones patriotism is truly appalling and shows just how naive you are of facts and reality.

- Taylorst1[url]

Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.

Long time luker who finally decided to make an account in light of the recent appalling comments. It’s good to know that Taylor guy not only has the worst takes and the worst posts I’ve ever seen on this board, but is also a full blown ignorant and racist pos. Jesus that guy is not the brightest bulb in the tree. Not surprised with Truegrit though, being from Florida and all. Funny how this story brought out and showed these posters true colors. All I got to say is; ok boomer.

Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.
- Elbows15

Let's get back to hockey talk .

Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.
- Elbows15

I've clearly made my point. It's also clear you don't have facts to back up your claims. If you understood the first amendment then you would know that everyone share the same rights to voice their opinions and we don't shut down speech just because some dislike it, we encourage more speech to try and persuade those .

By you claiming this country is racist I called you out for not having facts to support your argument and your response was to shut me down or try and belittle everyone and you questioned my patriotism
Your a sad excuse for a human being.
However their is always hope for people like you

I'm sorry you feel that way. But clearly you don't have facts to back up your claims or beliefs.
Also to question ones patriotism is truly appalling and shows just how naive you are of facts and reality.

- Taylorst1[url]

Oh - the irony....