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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 27 @ 5:13 PM ET
Gostisbehere and Laughton for Puljujarvi, Caleb Jones, 2020 2nd and 4th.
- Wildschwein

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 27 @ 5:14 PM ET
Gostisbehere and Laughton for Puljujarvi, Caleb Jones, 2020 2nd and 4th.
- Wildschwein


No
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 27 @ 5:14 PM ET

- Mordecai


You’ll also have to take Manning back.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 27 @ 5:14 PM ET
You’ll also have to take Manning back.
- Wildschwein

now i'm personally offended
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
now i'm personally offended
- Mordecai


That’s understandable. Manning is offensive.
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Nov 27 @ 5:33 PM ET
AV needs to swap JVR with Laughton.
JVR needs more skilled players to compliment his limited goal scoring tool box.
Have said all year Raffl laughton and Pitlick solid 4th line.
Coach messing up here bigtime
I guess he is trying to make a point w JVR and Ghost.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 27 @ 5:38 PM ET
AV needs to swap JVR with Laughton.
JVR needs more skilled players to compliment his limited goal scoring tool box.
Have said all year Raffl laughton and Pitlick solid 4th line.
Coach messing up here bigtime
I guess he is trying to make a point w JVR and Ghost.

- biggbear77


This is where having Patrick out hurts. With all healthy we had better depth. Obviously. Hate head issue injuries. Pronger Lapps great 88....,
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Nov 27 @ 5:38 PM ET
AV needs to swap JVR with Laughton.
JVR needs more skilled players to compliment his limited goal scoring tool box.
Have said all year Raffl laughton and Pitlick solid 4th line.
Coach messing up here bigtime
I guess he is trying to make a point w JVR and Ghost.

- biggbear77


There’s several additional factors here to consider:

JVR is not currently finishing even though he has had ample PP time.
Hayes is also struggling and plays better with Laughton.
I think they said Laughton isn’t taking faceoffs.
Farabee also trying to get back to his play.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 5:47 PM ET
Bill if ghost was moved what is a reasonable/expected return right now.
- daryl stanley

If you were a GM would you be giving up much for him right now?

B level prospect and a 2nd. I'd rather hang onto him and hope he turns it around. You can still move him when he's re-built some value.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 5:51 PM ET
I would trade Ghost for a young NHL ready forward if possible.

I think JVR is untradeable.

- MBFlyerfan

The same JVR that quietly pots 30 goals year after year? He's struggling to score this year, sure. But so is just about the entire team. He could certainly generate some interest.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
The same JVR that quietly pots 30 goals year after year? He's struggling to score this year, sure. But so is just about the entire team. He could certainly generate some interest.
- hereticpride


In a vacuum sure. But in a cap world where most teams don’t have 7 million in cap space it kind of changes the dynamic don’t you think?

Most teams can’t take him on for just prospects, and most have to send back comparable salary. So it’s not like teams will be offering up their good players to get our not so good player.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Nov 27 @ 6:02 PM ET
If you were a GM would you be giving up much for him right now?

B level prospect and a 2nd. I'd rather hang onto him and hope he turns it around. You can still move him when he's re-built some value.

- hereticpride

thing is all GMS value players differently. too many variables in play. I still think he has value and wont have to take a crap deal to move him. Maybe i am wrong. Either way the next 5 games he plays as a flyer will be very vital for him. Assuming he is around to play in 5 more....

if he rebuilds his value like many have said, then dont you hold onto him at that point? or do you for lack of a better word sell high?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 6:03 PM ET
In a vacuum sure. But in a cap world where most teams don’t have 7 million in cap space it kind of changes the dynamic don’t you think?

Most teams can’t take him on for just prospects, and most have to send back comparable salary. So it’s not like teams will be offering up their good players to get our not so good player.

- MBFlyerfan


If JVR had less term, he might be easier to move. I think it would be difficult to move him and get a good return. I think it might be trading your problem for theirs. That can work out sometimes.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 6:11 PM ET
In a vacuum sure. But in a cap world where most teams don’t have 7 million in cap space it kind of changes the dynamic don’t you think?

Most teams can’t take him on for just prospects, and most have to send back comparable salary. So it’s not like teams will be offering up their good players to get our not so good player.

- MBFlyerfan

Well there's the difference. You said he's unmovable. Now it's unless there's money coming back. Obviously we'd likely have to take a contract back in the deal. It's certainly a possibility. It's also possible we work out a deal with Seattle to take him during the expansion draft.

And while I know he's down I just can't call a guy with his stats over the last 5 years a not so good player. We managed to trade Vinny. You can't tell me JVR is unmovable.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
If JVR had less term, he might be easier to move. I think it would be difficult to move him and get a good return. I think it might be trading your problem for theirs. That can work out sometimes.
- MJL

Am I wrong or doesn't he only have three years left after this year? If he had five I'd be a lot more concerned.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
With a roster built like this one, nobody should be happy with 2-1 wins or 2-1 losses.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Nov 27 @ 6:19 PM ET
With a roster built like this one, nobody should be happy with 2-1 wins or 2-1 losses.
- SuperSchennBros


Weren’t you the one saying Columbus wasn’t bad this year and to not sleep on them, now you’re saying they’re a bad team and the flyers should blow them out?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 6:36 PM ET
With a roster built like this one, nobody should be happy with 2-1 wins or 2-1 losses.
- SuperSchennBros

With the recent history of this franchise I'll be happy with any win they can get.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 27 @ 6:39 PM ET
If JVR had less term, he might be easier to move. I think it would be difficult to move him and get a good return. I think it might be trading your problem for theirs. That can work out sometimes.
- MJL


JvR will be the James Neal to the Lucic the Flyers get in return.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Nov 27 @ 7:03 PM ET
Thought the Flyers were coming on, then I end up watching two guys talk about cars for like 5 minutes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 7:03 PM ET
JvR will be the James Neal to the Lucic the Flyers get in return.
- Tomahawk


I'm hoping it's the other way around.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 7:03 PM ET
Thought the Flyers were coming on, then I end up watching two guys talk about cars for like 5 minutes.
- Ftown19125



I did the same thing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 7:04 PM ET
Am I wrong or doesn't he only have three years left after this year? If he had five I'd be a lot more concerned.
- hereticpride


You are not wrong.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Nov 27 @ 7:12 PM ET
nice contract for Coyle.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 27 @ 7:16 PM ET
Man, I can believe Columbus did not bury that in the open net. Very lucky for us.
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