Quit wondering.

If it was your team, you wouldn’t give two franking poops.
- Atomic Wedgie

Id feel something!!

Still significantly out of a playoff spot, so no.
- Aetherial

wouldn't it be awesome if it stayed that way?

simply by making that coaching change my optimism and excitement level did a 180

I had no intentions of watching the game last night, but once Babs was canned and Keefe put in place, i wasnt missing it. as each game went on I just felt worse and worse about watching the team.

And its all about Babs and his stuborness, I just felt nothing would change.

Now I cant wait for the next game, and we invited friends over to watch.
- senstroll

I can relate. It was the same for me last night.

wouldn't it be awesome if it stayed that way?
- Symba007

If by awesome, you meant the Habs finishing 9th again, then yes, of course.

wouldn't it be awesome if it stayed that way?
- Symba007

Just a guess, but I wonder if it was just the body language and effort of the players, and did they maybe talk to a few key guys in the room and find out that the whole atmosphere was just real bad... you know it was.
- Aetherial

Yeah I think that was part of it too.

As someone said earlier from their "source". The team just began tuning him out and were at odds with him.

I think even the Captain probably couldn't much to bridge the gap between players and coach.

If by awesome, you meant the Habs finishing 9th again, then yes, of course.
- Aetherial

Habs will be lucky to finish 9th IMO....they will slip to 10-12th spot IMO

Id feel something!!
- senstroll

I didn't read the articles but is it a 100% true they did cheat?

If so, I wonder if Vegas is upset about it.

new blog

I wonder how I would feel if my team was doing this an won the WS

https://twitter.com/Jombo...tatus/1197700380383043585

what a bunch a poop cheaters
- senstroll

I'm waiting for the investigation to conclude not biased twitter users.

One of those "whistles" signals a fastball, and they show Springer take it high for ball four. Whoop-te-doo. Why wasn't he swinging if it was a fastball? That one was borderline - the ump could have easily called it a strike.

It feels like butthurt people so far. I'm sure there's something to it, but nothing's been proven yet. First it was garbage cans. Then it was bats. Then it's complex whistles. Soon it will be satellite signals and a laser they bounced off the Moon.

I'm waiting for the investigation to conclude not biased twitter users.

One of those "whistles" signals a fastball, and they show Springer take it high for ball four. Whoop-te-doo. Why wasn't he swinging if it was a fastball? That one was borderline - the ump could have easily called it a strike.

It feels like butthurt people so far. I'm sure there's something to it, but nothing's been proven yet. First it was garbage cans. Then it was bats. Then it's complex whistles. Soon it will be satellite signals and a laser they bounced off the Moon.
- Monkeypunk

well Mike Fiers went on the record and said they did.

But knowing a FB is coming doesnt mean you auto swing. depends on the count and what you are trying to do

The biggest thing is the defensive game by the whole team wasn't too bad. Yes, it was Arizona, and they did allow a few big chances, but it seemed less crazy in their end last night.

We'll never know for sure, but I think it is a convenient narrative for the players to claim they were thinking too much because the systems were too complicated. In fact, I haven't read where a player actually said that, but I have heard it.

I think it far more likely that they were 1) Sick of him 2) didn't agree with him 3) pissed off at stuff like ice time and that basically meant they were mentally checked out.

Babcock had to go. There is no question. This is not all on him though.

I think what I find annoying is that my biggest concern is that some people on this team need to be professionals and grow up. Some of the quotes that are thinly-veiled shots at Babcock, like 2 days after the guy was fired, are classless, unprofessional and immature.
- Aetherial

Yes, yes and yes.

I think that "need to be professional" portion is the main point to focus on going forward - or in other words - "don't pull that work-to-rule garbage again"...
what they did - whether intentionally or unintentionally - to Kaskisuo was unforgivable. I would hope that Shanahan (not Dubas) would walk into the locker room at the morning skate when Kaskisuo is starting - and say something like - 'time to pay the team, fans and that guy(K) back".

It is ultimately up to Dubas to actually "manage" this part of the team dynamic going forward.

Fact is - the rift (or whatever you want to call it) between Dubas and Babcock - should never have been allowed to get to this point. Egos aside - and Babcock isn't the only one with a giant ego in this equation - their responsibility is to the team - not their own agendas. Same goes for the players.

I don't know about you... but I don't really want to hear anything about philosophy anymore. This isn't about philosophy.. "Can I build a roster than wins"? ... don't care. I'm more interested in "can I adjust my roster in the face of obvious needs"?

What was Babcock accused of THE MOST? Not adjusting - his goal tender usage? his PP deployment? his defensive structure? his in game adjustments? non-existent would be the general observation - so Babcock is therefore a stubborn unbending jerk

What has Dubas adjusted in his "roster construction"? ... exactly, nothing..
so therefore Dubas is and unbending jerk - "philosophically" speaking?

Habs will be lucky to finish 9th IMO....they will slip to 10-12th spot IMO
- Symba007

awesome draft location

Nylander had a pretty incredible tip in the last min in the first that Keynote was lucky to save...would of been 2-0 leafs.
- Santo_44

So willies tip was skill but the save was lucky?

I wonder how I would feel if my team was doing this an won the WS

https://twitter.com/Jombo...tatus/1197700380383043585

what a bunch a poop cheaters
- senstroll

If it were the jays and they won the world series.
Im sure you wouldnt care years later.

wouldn't it be awesome if it stayed that way?
- Symba007

Yes.
Even better if the leafs had the 11th pick as well.
Max would have a field day.
The kool aid drinkers would be running rampant trying to spin a story or simply gone.
The rest of us would just sit back and watch the nonsense.

But theyll make the playoffs, so all for not

The biggest thing is the defensive game by the whole team wasn't too bad. Yes, it was Arizona, and they did allow a few big chances, but it seemed less crazy in their end last night.
- aminnes

Yotes outplayed a lot of teams in their building this year .

Not a gimme to shut the yotes down this year.

Yotes outplayed a lot of teams in their building this year .

Not a gimme to shut the yotes down this year.
- Tumbleweed

Fair enough. It was nice to see though. Usually it's a mess, and they did get hemmed in a few times, but it never felt crazy like it usually does. There were some mistakes but overall a much better team d effort. Let's hope it was not an anomaly.

I watched all the Calder cup games the year they won. He was bottom pair who gave the puck away regularly and couldn't get the puck out or make a play. He was brutal.
- burn

Yup. He is and always has been trash.

I said right after they won that he didn't deserve to be a AHL Champion with the rest of the team.

So willies tip was skill but the save was lucky?
- Fakepartofme

actually ... Willy's tip was unlucky - the save was lucky apparently.

Those new Tesla Cybertrucks are dope af!!

Habs will be lucky to finish 9th IMO....they will slip to 10-12th spot IMO
- Symba007

playoffs I think

playoffs I think
- Aetherial

I'm sticking with my prediction they finish third in the div.

The biggest thing is the defensive game by the whole team wasn't too bad. Yes, it was Arizona, and they did allow a few big chances, but it seemed less crazy in their end last night.
- aminnes

Arizona is real good.