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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
Curious why you think that regarding the bolded above?

The Ontario hometown angle seems to help when the team has been so bad for so long, and I don't think he's getting any kind of monster deal after this season.

- kingcong39

I still doubt risto gets moved

so in 2021 when dahlin needs to be extended


eichel 10 mil
skinner 9 mil
let's say 7.5 mil for reinhart
6 mil for okposo
5.4 mil for risto
3.8 mil for miller
let's say 6 mil for montour
and say dahlin does a bridge deal at 6 mil per


that's 54 mil for 8 guys


you can argue 2 or 3 mil on those three deals but let's use 54 mil as a baseline

you still need 14 guys
let's say the cap goes up to 85 mil

31 mil for 14 guys are a tad over 2 mil per body

joker, olofsson and casey will probably be over that mark for sure

pretty sure even with 6k will be over the 4 mil for the 2 goalies
even if best case, you get your 2 goalies at 4 mil, joker, casey and olofsson at 2 mil per

thats 10 mil for 5 guys so now you have 21 mil for 9 guys


let's say you lock up toffoli at his current price of 4.5, your not getting him on a 1 year deal so figure 4 years 18 mil, best case

now you have 16.5 mil for 8 guys and your in cap hell if you want to add 1 decent contract
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Nov 23 @ 10:04 AM ET


not buying it



- homiedclown



I knew Hommie would get it. But Beady’s age now alludes me. He doesn’t know the blue oyster. But knows Wayne’s world. I don’t know if you could know one and not the other... I’m calling shenanigans. Beady WAS at the blue oyster bar last night, not that there is anything wrong with that.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
It's an actual joke that Thurman Thomas is not on this

https://www.nfl.com/100/all-time-team/roster
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
How about Zucker and Hartman for Scandella, Sheary, Asplund, 2nd
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
You’ve highlighted our issue in a nutshell. We need 2 centers
- lulags

ryan o reilly and roslovic
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Nov 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
I still doubt risto gets moved

so in 2021 when dahlin needs to be extended


eichel 10 mil
skinner 9 mil
let's say 7.5 mil for reinhart
6 mil for okposo
5.4 mil for risto
3.8 mil for miller
let's say 6 mil for montour
and say dahlin does a bridge deal at 6 mil per


that's 54 mil for 8 guys


you can argue 2 or 3 mil on those three deals but let's use 54 mil as a baseline

you still need 14 guys
let's say the cap goes up to 85 mil

31 mil for 14 guys are a tad over 2 mil per body

joker, olofsson and casey will probably be over that mark for sure

pretty sure even with 6k will be over the 4 mil for the 2 goalies
even if best case, you get your 2 goalies at 4 mil, joker, casey and olofsson at 2 mil per

thats 10 mil for 5 guys so now you have 21 mil for 9 guys


let's say you lock up toffoli at his current price of 4.5, your not getting him on a 1 year deal so figure 4 years 18 mil, best case

now you have 16.5 mil for 8 guys and your in cap hell if you want to add 1 decent contract

- homiedclown


Maybe Okposo is allergic to concussions? I mean allergic to his hockey equipment due to concussions.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
I knew Hommie would get it. But Beady’s age now alludes me. He doesn’t know the blue oyster. But knows Wayne’s world. I don’t know if you could know one and not the other... I’m calling shenanigans. Beady WAS at the blue oyster bar last night, not that there is anything wrong with that.
- Gr8daygo

No, I totally haven't seen Police Academy movies in forever but as soon as the clips played I was like oh THAT Blue Oyster

I'm 34

I still want to know who called me out on reddit, that made my morning haha
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
How about Zucker and Hartman for Scandella, Sheary, Asplund, 2nd
- Buff36

I still doubt risto gets moved

so in 2021 when dahlin needs to be extended


eichel 10 mil
skinner 9 mil
let's say 7.5 mil for reinhart
6 mil for okposo
5.4 mil for risto
3.8 mil for miller
let's say 6 mil for montour
and say dahlin does a bridge deal at 6 mil per


that's 54 mil for 8 guys


you can argue 2 or 3 mil on those three deals but let's use 54 mil as a baseline

you still need 14 guys
let's say the cap goes up to 85 mil

31 mil for 14 guys are a tad over 2 mil per body

joker, olofsson and casey will probably be over that mark for sure

pretty sure even with 6k will be over the 4 mil for the 2 goalies
even if best case, you get your 2 goalies at 4 mil, joker, casey and olofsson at 2 mil per

thats 10 mil for 5 guys so now you have 21 mil for 9 guys


5.5 per for zucker

now you have 15.5 mil for 8 guys and your in cap hell if you want to add 1 decent contract
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
It's an actual joke that Thurman Thomas is not on this

https://www.nfl.com/100/all-time-team/roster

- BeadyEyedDouche

No Curtis Martin? Man there's a lot of guys who they snubbed here.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
Maybe Okposo is allergic to concussions? I mean allergic to his hockey equipment due to concussions.
- Gr8daygo

they are in a pickle


I have zero issues with the skinner contract, but you have no wiggle room moving forward with okoso on your cap


and playing skinner with a 4th line center makes zero sense


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
No, I totally haven't seen Police Academy movies in forever but as soon as the clips played I was like oh THAT Blue Oyster

I'm 34

I still want to know who called me out on reddit, that made my morning haha

- BeadyEyedDouche

your list of enemies is long

perhaps a stroll down first and first will help you find the answer you seek


Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Nov 23 @ 10:09 AM ET
No, I totally haven't seen Police Academy movies in forever but as soon as the clips played I was like oh THAT Blue Oyster

I'm 34

I still want to know who called me out on reddit, that made my morning haha

- BeadyEyedDouche


I only reddit for nfl streams....
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:12 AM ET
Brock Nelson has 19 points in 20 games this year. He never hit FA but he’s another player you a-holes gave me poop about this offseason when I said we should target him as a 2C
- Pegullaville


The Islanders are unreal.

Have you seen Brassard's production so far this year?

A near career high shooting percentage and what would be a career high production rate.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
I only reddit for nfl streams....
- Gr8daygo

http://buffstreamz.com/nfl-streams/


just go here
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Nov 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
they are in a pickle


I have zero issues with the skinner contract, but you have no wiggle room moving forward with okoso on your cap


and playing skinner with a 4th line center makes zero sense

- homiedclown


I wish him all the best but can okoposo really consider playing again? That’s 3 in the last 3 years. With the 3rd not looking like that bad of a hit... I know you still have to factor him in but is he really gonna play?!? Go enjoy the family. Get a cushy academy of hockey gig with matty ellis and take it easy...
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:16 AM ET
I still doubt risto gets moved

so in 2021 when dahlin needs to be extended

eichel 10 mil
skinner 9 mil
let's say 7.5 mil for reinhart
6 mil for okposo
5.4 mil for risto
3.8 mil for miller
let's say 6 mil for montour
and say dahlin does a bridge deal at 6 mil per

that's 54 mil for 8 guys

you can argue 2 or 3 mil on those three deals but let's use 54 mil as a baseline

you still need 14 guys
let's say the cap goes up to 85 mil

31 mil for 14 guys are a tad over 2 mil per body

joker, olofsson and casey will probably be over that mark for sure

pretty sure even with 6k will be over the 4 mil for the 2 goalies
even if best case, you get your 2 goalies at 4 mil, joker, casey and olofsson at 2 mil per

thats 10 mil for 5 guys so now you have 21 mil for 9 guys

let's say you lock up toffoli at his current price of 4.5, your not getting him on a 1 year deal so figure 4 years 18 mil, best case

now you have 16.5 mil for 8 guys and your in cap hell if you want to add 1 decent contract

- homiedclown


I will be shocked if they don't move on from Ristolainen. Montour is a better version of him.

I would not be surprised if they moved on from Reinhart.

Ristolainen for Zucker makes a lot of sense in many ways. Cap, trading history with the Wild, Zucker and his history with the Wild organization the past year+, etc.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 23 @ 10:20 AM ET
I will be shocked if they don't move on from Ristolainen. Montour is a better version of him.

I would not be surprised if they moved on from Reinhart.

- kingcong39

The only way to get an impact player at this point is to send these two away in a package.

Ristolainen and Reinhart for Trocheck and Hoffman, is this lopsided for either team?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Nov 23 @ 10:21 AM ET
I still doubt risto gets moved

so in 2021 when dahlin needs to be extended


eichel 10 mil
skinner 9 mil
let's say 7.5 mil for reinhart
6 mil for okposo
5.4 mil for risto
3.8 mil for miller
let's say 6 mil for montour
and say dahlin does a bridge deal at 6 mil per


that's 54 mil for 8 guys


you can argue 2 or 3 mil on those three deals but let's use 54 mil as a baseline

you still need 14 guys
let's say the cap goes up to 85 mil

31 mil for 14 guys are a tad over 2 mil per body

joker, olofsson and casey will probably be over that mark for sure

pretty sure even with 6k will be over the 4 mil for the 2 goalies
even if best case, you get your 2 goalies at 4 mil, joker, casey and olofsson at 2 mil per

thats 10 mil for 5 guys so now you have 21 mil for 9 guys


5.5 per for zucker

now you have 15.5 mil for 8 guys and your in cap hell if you want to add 1 decent contract

- homiedclown

I hear what you're saying Homie, but unless Dahlin starts blowing up he isn't getting 6 mill, and that's alot for 6k when we don't even know if he will be a #1 goalie by then. Hartman's 1.9 would be off the books bye then too
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Nov 23 @ 10:23 AM ET
I will be shocked if they don't move on from Ristolainen. Montour is a better version of him.

I would not be surprised if they moved on from Reinhart.

Ristolainen for Zucker makes a lot of sense in many ways. Cap, trading history with the Wild, Zucker and his history with the Wild organization the past year+, etc.

- kingcong39


And botts knows the new gm pretty well.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 10:24 AM ET
I don't believe this to be true but here it is

https://www.nhltraderumor...res-send-trade-offer.html


The Sabres have been in contact with the LA Kings and have made an offer for forward Tyler Toffoli which included one of Marco Scandella or Zach Bogosian, to balance out the money, along with a 2nd round pick. The Kings are said to be waiting on the market for Toffoli to unfold, as the right winger is heating up as has 6 goals and 12 points, after a very slow start.

- homiedclown


I would do it ...... easily. Doubt they want bogo who is just coming off IR. But he fits the kings mold.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
I hear what you're saying Homie, but unless Dahlin starts blowing up he isn't getting 6 mill, and that's alot for 6k when we don't even know if he will be a #1 goalie by then. Hartman's 1.9 would be off the books bye then too
- Buff36

I am figuring 4 mil for BOTH goalies

6 k and the backup


for dahlin
kid had 44 points his rookie season, probably 50 points this year and perhaps 60 points next year

you do everything you can to lock dahlin up on a higher 3 year bridge deal and then an 8 year deal


14 years of guaranteed dahlin is a good thing
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
I wish him all the best but can okoposo really consider playing again? That’s 3 in the last 3 years. With the 3rd not looking like that bad of a hit... I know you still have to factor him in but is he really gonna play?!? Go enjoy the family. Get a cushy academy of hockey gig with matty ellis and take it easy...
- Gr8daygo


It really depends how bad this concussion is ..... if it’s a bad one. The Sabres should long term IR him for his remaining years. Best for both the team and player.

But the Sabres will never ever say how bad it is or how he’s doing.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:34 AM ET


Ristolainen for Zucker makes a lot of sense in many ways. Cap, trading history with the Wild, Zucker and his history with the Wild organization the past year+, etc.

- kingcong39

wild already have dumba and spurgeon locked up long term, and they are RD


if you add risto for your third pair, your paying over 35 mil for your d group

and the wild issues is lack of scoring



kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:41 AM ET
The only way to get an impact player at this point is to send these two away in a package.

Ristolainen and Reinhart for Trocheck and Hoffman, is this lopsided for either team?

- BeadyEyedDouche


Interesting proposal, but the Panthers already have $24M locked up in their top 4, and losing Trocheck would leave them with a hole at center. The Anton Stralman deal they signed might be the reason they say no?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Nov 23 @ 10:42 AM ET
Is he as good as Ryan Donato? Who has 3 points in 20 games and you tried to convince me was good?
- sbroads24


He looked great last year. Numbers don’t look good so far this year but he was a noteworthy prospect in the Bruins pipeline that pumps players out like nobody’s business. The entire Wild organization has been a tire fire this year.

He had 16 points in 22 games last year in Minny has 37 points in 88 career games playing mostly bottom 6 minutes. That is quite good if you ask me for a 23 year old making peanuts.
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