4 years 6 million per
- BetweenTheDots

4@$7.5 just look what he's doing this year.

4@$7.5 just look what he's doing this year.
- rpeters01

Like last year?

I hear what you're saying but imo if you are going to trade Saad then you continue on the youth movement without salary. No way i trade Saad this year since he has a year left on his contract unless the offer is too good to pass up.

As i said before the 2 guys i trade are Crawford and Gusto

And if Lehner doesn't sign an extension, I'd trade him to.

Hawks might be able to out do Boston (3 some year) and have 4 1st round picks
- BetweenTheDots

Trading Saad for a loser is dumb.

Like last year?
- BetweenTheDots

Not going to get him for that number unless his agent is stupid but I don't think he is...

Not going to get him for that number unless his agent is stupid but I don't think he is...
- rpeters01

Hawks signed him to a 1yr deal for $5mil? He had a great year with the Isles, past is relevant

Hawks signed him to a 1yr deal for $5mil? He had a great year with the Isles, past is relevant
- BetweenTheDots

That had more to do with the fact that this was his first year of playing actual good goaltending and it was in front of Trotz defensive minded system. Griess looked damn good last year too. Plus, with his mental health issues it was a lot to ask a team to commit the money AND term at that time. After two strong seasons, that will likely change. Especially with the Hawks D hemorrhaging shots every night

Not going to get him for that number unless his agent is stupid but I don't think he is...
- rpeters01

i think it will close to 6m. and he seems like a team driven guy so who knows. maybe he takes a discount to stay.

Hawks signed him to a 1yr deal for $5mil? He had a great year with the Isles, past is relevant
- BetweenTheDots

Not forever especially if there are multiple bidders IMO.

Not forever especially if there are multiple bidders IMO.
- rpeters01

My understanding the Isle's offered him 2 x $5 mil. and they wanted an answer immeidately. He took a couple of days and they signed Varlamov and said to Lehner he took too long.

The issue is with Shaw and The Drake injured, they only have 11 forwards.
- tvetter

I get that. I don't want 7D rotating on the back-end. Best 6D play. IF you want to put KK at forward then fine. But then you aren't really dressing 7D.

Isn't there an available roster spot - just the perfect size for a game or two for Sikura, Wedin, Highmore....
- StLBravesFan

Yes please. Sikura.

My understanding the Isle's offered him 2 x $5 mil. and they wanted an answer immeidately. He took a couple of days and they signed Varlamov and said to Lehner he took too long.
- LAHawk

It wouldn't surprise me if the Hawks only offered him a 2 year deal at $6 mill. With a hard cap and his prior issues

The issue is with Shaw and The Drake injured, they only have 11 forwards.
- tvetter

Move Gus to forward... problem solved.

Move Gus to forward... problem solved.
- DarthKane

At least you are being sarcastic about it...

No Kucherov tonight

It wouldn't surprise me if the Hawks only offered him a 2 year deal at $6 mill. With a hard cap and his prior issues
- BetweenTheDots

That would be saying they don't want him.

That would be saying they don't want him.
- rpeters01

It would say you are too great of a risk to sign to a long term contract and the Hawks are right. Has there been a year when 2 goalies get traded for 2 first round picks for the same team? It might happen this season

so how long till Babcock finds a new home? Calgary anyone?
- SaskHawkFan

Seattle?

It would say you are too great of a risk to sign to a long term contract and the Hawks are right. Has there been a year when 2 goalies get traded for 2 first round picks for the same team? It might happen this season
- BetweenTheDots

You would also have to make sure they can be replaced. Delia, Lank, Tomkins, Gravel ... who pans out as a number 1?

It would say you are too great of a risk to sign to a long term contract and the Hawks are right. Has there been a year when 2 goalies get traded for 2 first round picks for the same team? It might happen this season
- BetweenTheDots

Lehner's resume doesn't look like a "one-hit-wonder": several good seasons with Buffalo before last season with the Isle.

2015-16: 21 games .924 2.47
2016-17: 59 games .920 2.68
2017-18: 53 games .908 3.01

Then last season with NYI, and this season here.

I think a proven goalie at 29 next summer, probably looking for a cash-rich final contract.

Lehner's resume doesn't look like a "one-hit-wonder": several good seasons with Buffalo before last season with the Isle.

2015-16: 21 games .924 2.47
2016-17: 59 games .920 2.68
2017-18: 53 games .908 3.01

Then last season with NYI, and this season here.

I think a proven goalie at 29 next summer, probably looking for a cash-rich final contract.
- StLBravesFan

I think you pay him. Use Crow's money that is off the books. Lehner is already making 5 mil this year. I don't think Strome warrants a Dcat type bridge. He hasn't shown he can produce with Dcat and/or Kane on his wing.

Lehner's resume doesn't look like a "one-hit-wonder": several good seasons with Buffalo before last season with the Isle.

2015-16: 21 games .924 2.47
2016-17: 59 games .920 2.68
2017-18: 53 games .908 3.01

Then last season with NYI, and this season here.

I think a proven goalie at 29 next summer, probably looking for a cash-rich final contract.
- StLBravesFan

Yep, this is definitely the way his side of the negotiation will look at it.
Actually very similar to the current Crawford contract.
Two other factors, Crow had won multiple Cups and Lehner will bargain for salary inflation/rising salary cap.

It would say you are too great of a risk to sign to a long term contract and the Hawks are right. Has there been a year when 2 goalies get traded for 2 first round picks for the same team? It might happen this season
- BetweenTheDots

Same thing...

It would say you are too great of a risk to sign to a long term contract and the Hawks are right. Has there been a year when 2 goalies get traded for 2 first round picks for the same team? It might happen this season
- BetweenTheDots

Crow will bring a first round pick in our dreams. All the good teams have a goalie or don't have the cap space. Crow gets to decide where he goes. Crap teams aren't about to give up a lottery pick for a rental 36 year old next year concussed goalie. "The past is relevant."

After the crap show on Halloween in Nashville, wanted to give this team 10 games to see if they could make a run......and they did. They are back in the playoff picture but it's obvious this team can't take a period or partial parts of the game off as unless their goalie tandem stone walls the opposition they find themselves quickly in a hole.

Big game tonight and with Kucherov out.....be nice to get a home W before heading to Dallas.

Lastly, the Canadian media's deity of a coach is unemployed. Such a shame. I fully expect the Leafs to go on a little run as that usually happens when a coach is terminated and the players realize it's on "them" and try to make amends. I think Babcock is a fine coach, not Q, but I would take him behind the bench on the Hawks (I highly doubt it would happen)…….and their cap situation is absolutely hilarious. Take a look for a chuckle......it's something to marvel at.

Kids...here's how NOT to put together a roster in a hard cap world....I give you the 2019-20 Leafs…...