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St. Louis’ Robert Bortuzzo has been suspended for four games for Cross-checking Nashville’s Viktor Arvidsson.
- pdx2ord

It would have been zero if Arvidsson wasn't injured.

Kane is probably the only player on the team who would return an "elite prospect."
- rpeters01

Not that Buffalo would do it but...
Kane for Dahlin straight up.
Buffalo is looking for scoring, and seeing Kane/Eichel preview the next olympics or world championships would be fun.

I’d settle for Lucic.
- DarthKane

#grit and #cost certainty!

Edit: everyone go read this blog. I think it sums up the "mans game" that todays NHL is becoming. Sell the farm! Bring back John Scott!

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...ng-Milan-Lucic/261/101886

Not that Buffalo would do it but...
Kane for Dahlin straight up.
Buffalo is looking for scoring, and seeing Kane/Eichel preview the next olympics or world championships would be fun.
- Slofire94

The #1 overall that was a recent healthy scratch? Sabre’s would have to come up with more, much more.

I said it yesterday, if you can get one of those Tkachuk boys straight up for Alex Debrincat I do it right now.

Might have to throw in both salt and pepper shakers also!
- wonthecup10

You must be kidding
Not a chance in hell any GM deals one of the Tkachuk boys for Debrincat

I’d settle for Lucic.
- DarthKane

Too Fat, Too old,Hockeys version of Greg Luzinski ,going to eat himself out of the game before his time,
Why is everybody piling on the captain, any of the core that was here that brought us three Stanley cups it’s spite of Scotty’s kid running the show gets a pass from me. That is just my own opinion.
Now he goes and hires and an inexperienced hockey coach, or should I correct myself or was brought in way before his time. Unlike Sheldon Keefe who spent I believe five or six years coaching the Marlies,
I think this stuff is going to go to hell in a handbasket, pissing off the captain, a coach that is in over his headdoesn’t know what the hell he’s doing, and a general manager that has more misses than hits that also has been in over his head.Then you go up the line and you have a president that would not know how to hire the next coach or general manager, and an owner that probably can’t name five or six other players on the current team other than the ones that were here that won the Stanley Cup’s.
I know I may sound hard ass about it but, those seats are paid for when Jean Honda announces 21,000+ every night for this year. But I guarantee you it will not be the same next year if these guys do not write the ship. And the last thing I want to see is Patrick Kane or Jonathan Toews traded because of a head coach that doesn’t know what the hell he is doing. Rocky better be paying attention to the situation big time.

The long knives are now out for DeBrincat - pathetic. He has 18 points in 23 games which is a couple multi-point games off his 76 points in 82 games pace last season. And now he's a bum. The impatient fickleness of some fans is ridiculous.

An aspect that might be in play with DeBrincat's struggle putting the puck in the net with as much proficiency as last season is his new $6M deal. Even though it doesn't kick in until next season he sill got the deal and some players put excess pressure on themselves to perform and it hurts their performance. DeBrincat actually looks better this season with the only exception of goal scoring - he's stronger and faster and is playing more physical, and even though his d-zone play still needs improvement it is better than last season.

He will be fine and score lots of goals for the Hawks. Just let him be.

They have those #s by pure chance. If Kubalik and Kampf were playing all those minutes with 88 they’d have the same #s. Excluding one game vs the LA Kings Cat and Strome have played like complete poop(given their standards) and haven’t produced on their own. They need Kane. And even with Kane they can’t score goals. At all.

What makes them top 6 caliber talents? Cats shot and Stromes passing. That’s it. So far this season those skills haven’t been there. So at this very moment they don’t look like top 6 talents. Kane deserves better. Dach should be playing with Kane. Make Cat-Strome a 3rd line until they remember how to play hockey.
- SimpleJack

Bowman or a predessesor needs to resolve this season"s version of the inefficient DCat and Strome .

We noticed how both players are lacking or not displaying certain skill which were exhibited last season. Off season work outs may be the reason for the change. The fact is indisputable that at their age they should be able to recapture their previous form;; they did not permanently loose their capacity to repeat past skill and subsequently generate more scoring (points).

I believe not only would training method turn them around, but so too the better chemistry in line combination as they should be prudently placed according to past success

Now upcoming is the so called monkeys wrench which could tear assunder the plans to keep certain players on the roster and protected from selection in the expansion draft.

First of all Gus is gone by trade deadline because he has value too great to loose for nothing to the expansion draft.

Next perhaps we cannot trade Seabrook so we loose a significant piece from our roster. If not traded I foresee either Maata/Murphy and Saad available.

And because Strome is basically a one dimensional offensive talent, possibly he might be available.

Either short or long term there needs to be a top center in Chicago; the top center actually now is missing in action. Toews is never going to be top line productive on a regular basis. I do not really want a Strome Dach punch but rather a different center than Strome.

Perhaps the new center is drafted in 2020 Entry Draft, or traded for (a trade likely would be DCat & possibly a prospect other than Boqvist, Mitchell, Beaudin, Entwhistle. A smart move would be also to retain Carlsson).

Of course teams pull back a player after player #1 (first) expansion choice is made

So there could be a gamble wherein Strome is available but first to pull back.

So to visit the Seabrook trade discussion [big assumption he will waive no movement clause].....do not surrender one of the top prospects aforementioned. Do not be held hostge by too heavy price to move Seabrook. Choose to keep prospects over a roster player. We have prospects to graduate to the NHL even if you might not see the perfect replacement.

I could envision for instance that Carlsson replaces Murphy.

Whatever happens with Strome and others of course is all a guessing game right now But you can be an armchair quarterback (play Bowman as GM) and come up with other scenarios beside what I just painted.

Spitballing: does Slavin have better hands than Saad. Hate to loose any prospects in trades

Boqvist five assists as Icehogs split two road contests in Texas
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You must be kidding
Not a chance in hell any GM deals one of the Tkachuk boys for Debrincat
- Colbyboy

I’m not looking to picK on the cat, I just hope he starts scoring, all I’m saying is if they need to shake up some stuff I would love to see Stan Bowman Target one of those two kids, he could’ve had Brady had a trade to trade up and secure that pick last year, Water under the bridge. What to get a player like that it’s going to cost you someone like Alex DeBrincat.My opinion is I don’t think it’s any of the players, I don’t think this coach is a clue what the hell he is doing and neither does his general manager. The layers of armor that protected Stan Bowman when he inherited the three Stanley Cup teams or should I see the nucleus of it, has fallen off. I’ll stay and hard by what I see there is no way that Colliton or Bowman survive past this year if they do not make the playoffs.

Bowman or a predessesor needs to resolve this season"s version of the inefficient DCat and Strome .

We noticed how both players are lacking or not displaying certain skill which were exhibited last season. Off season work outs may be the reason for the change. The fact is indisputable that at their age they should be able to recapture their previous form;; they did not permanently loose their capacity to repeat past skill and subsequently generate more scoring (points).

I believe not only would training method turn them around, but so too the better chemistry in line combination as they should be prudently placed according to past success

Now upcoming is the so called monkeys wrench which could tear assunder the plans to keep certain players on the roster and protected from selection in the expansion draft.

First of all Gus is gone by trade deadline because he has value too great to loose for nothing to the expansion draft.

Next perhaps we cannot trade Seabrook so we loose a significant piece from our roster. If not traded I foresee either Maata/Murphy and Saad available.

And because Strome is basically a one dimensional offensive talent, possibly he might be available.

Either short or long term there needs to be a top center in Chicago; the top center actually now is missing in action. Toews is never going to be top line productive on a regular basis. I do not really want a Strome Dach punch but rather a different center than Strome.

Perhaps the new center is drafted in 2020 Entry Draft, or traded for (a trade likely would be DCat & possibly a prospect other than Boqvist, Mitchell, Beaudin, Entwhistle. A smart move would be also to retain Carlsson).

Of course teams pull back a player after player #1 (first) expansion choice is made

So there could be a gamble wherein Strome is available but first to pull back.

So to visit the Seabrook trade discussion
- jhawk59[big assumption he will waive no movement clause].....do not surrender one of the top prospects aforementioned. Do not be held hostge by too heavy price to move Seabrook. Choose to keep prospects over a roster player. We have prospects to graduate to the NHL even if you might not see the perfect replacement.

I could envision for instance that Carlsson replaces Murphy.

Whatever happens with Strome and others of course is all a guessing game right now But you can be an armchair quarterback (play Bowman as GM) and come up with other scenarios beside what I just painted.

Spitballing: does Slavin have better hands than Saad. Hate to loose any prospects in trades

Boqvist five assists as Icehogs split two road contests in Texas
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I’d like to see Boqvist get recalled permanently. Prospects that stay in Rockford too long don’t have have a good track record of staying with the Hawks.

Rockford notes from the last few games:

The team as a whole spends way too much time in their own end struggling to clear the zone (sound familiar). They need to rely more on simple, short, quick passes to advance up ice.

Boqvist with 5 assists and quite activated in the O zone but still sloppy back on D. Misses his assignments a lot as he watches the puck too much forgetting about coverage.

Sikura is playing a complete game with plenty of poise and vision under pressure, the puck like a magnet on his stick no matter the zone, and tons of scoring chances for his mates and himself.

Highmore and Hagel are just little buggers who really hustle and agitate along the boards. Non-stop energy from these two.

Fortin, for as much as I rag on him, seems to be realizing that he can be an effective checking forward with his speed. The last 3 games have been his best all season with 2 goals and 2 assists.

Krys, believe it or not, has been the most steady blueliner the last stretch of games. Better positioning, quick plays to get the puck out of the zone, and more precise passing.

Tomkins is surprising as a reliable netminder. Composed with nice reflexes. Controls rebounds better than Delia.

I’d like to see Boqvist get recalled permanently. Prospects that stay in Rockford too long don’t have have a good track record of staying with the Hawks.
- DarthKane

I can agree iwith that

There is more to the equation,; however, as how Boqvist sticks in the NHL

We all know there is a numbers game on the blueline presently. Trading Gus does somewhat alleviate the crowded group.
Doesn't necessarily speak to his best case scenario, though, when more TOI is happening at the AHL level than the NHL.
The learning curve is another important point under consideration. The way defense is played is not condusive for development in Colliton"s system in Chicago as compared to the approach implemented at the AHL level.

The remainder.of this season hopefully is enough time to learn and to imporove. Learning too much in the NHL next season is probably not the best course to see happen

Rockford notes from the last few games:

The team as a whole spends way too much time in their own end struggling to clear the zone (sound familiar). They need to rely more on simple, short, quick passes to advance up ice.

Boqvist with 5 assists and quite activated in the O zone but still sloppy back on D. Misses his assignments a lot as he watches the puck too much forgetting about coverage.

Sikura is playing a complete game with plenty of poise and vision under pressure, the puck like a magnet on his stick no matter the zone, and tons of scoring chances for his mates and himself.

Highmore and Hagel are just little buggers who really hustle and agitate along the boards. Non-stop energy from these two.

Fortin, for as much as I rag on him, seems to be realizing that he can be an effective checking forward with his speed. The last 3 games have been his best all season with 2 goals and 2 assists.

Krys, believe it or not, has been the most steady blueliner the last stretch of games. Better positioning, quick plays to get the puck out of the zone, and more precise passing.

Tomkins is surprising as a reliable netminder. Composed with nice reflexes. Controls rebounds better than Delia.
- AEL_Fox

Has Tuulola"s progess now being a future NHL life? He apoears to have a good all around game. Perhaps he falls short in some way(s). I do hope that Kurasaev has continued to develop. I am uncertain how he might top out one day as for his offensive point total. Apparently someone does not want too much youth in the AHL lineup. I thought Soderlund and Hakkainen could prove they can play now at the AHL level. When healthy maybe they are assigned to is it Toledo. Might Bowman loose them if he does not get them to the AHL

Has Tuulola progess dvtonthevpointbof now being a future NHL life? He apoears to have a good all around game. Perhaps he falls short in some way(s). I do hope that Kurasaev has continued to develop. I am uncertain how he might top out one day as for his offensive point total. Apparently someone does not want too much youth in the AHL lineup. I thought Soderlund and Hakkainen could prove they can play now at the AHL level. When healthy maybe they are assigned to is it Toledo. Might Bowman loose them if he does not get them to the AHL
- jhawk59

Tuulola plays a physical and mean game. I think he's been every bit as effective as a defensive defenseman as Gilbert has. Carlsson, too.

IMO, Kurashev is on a slow and steady growth trajectory in the minors. He plays a simple and honest 200 foot game with zero shyness from the rough stuff. His offensive numbers will catch up in due time but think he'll be NHL ready after two full AHL seasons. So far he projects to be a middle 6 center, most likely a pretty reliable 3rd liner.

Soderlund and Hakkarainen are already in Rockford, not Indy. Soderlund is healthy but keeps getting scratched for 2-3 games at a time. Not sure why. His speed, fearlessness, and heavy shot could really be used as an everyday player.

Hakkarainen has been injured, though, since the first game.

It would have been zero if Arvidsson wasn't injured.
- tvetter

probably right...its acceptable after running guy into the cross bar and then use your stick as a weapon and crosscheck in the back when he is down...

i hear they teach that in peewees and midget as a "good hockey" play in the spirit of the NHL..

probably right...its acceptable after running guy into the cross bar and then use your stick as a weapon and crosscheck in the back when he is down...

i hear they teach that in peewees and midget as a "good hockey" play in the spirit of the NHL..
- bogiedoc

Brad Marchant School of Hockey has a week devoted to this.

Rockford notes from the last few games:

The team as a whole spends way too much time in their own end struggling to clear the zone (sound familiar). They need to rely more on simple, short, quick passes to advance up ice.

Boqvist with 5 assists and quite activated in the O zone but still sloppy back on D. Misses his assignments a lot as he watches the puck too much forgetting about coverage.

Sikura is playing a complete game with plenty of poise and vision under pressure, the puck like a magnet on his stick no matter the zone, and tons of scoring chances for his mates and himself.

Highmore and Hagel are just little buggers who really hustle and agitate along the boards. Non-stop energy from these two.

Fortin, for as much as I rag on him, seems to be realizing that he can be an effective checking forward with his speed. The last 3 games have been his best all season with 2 goals and 2 assists.

Krys, believe it or not, has been the most steady blueliner the last stretch of games. Better positioning, quick plays to get the puck out of the zone, and more precise passing.

Tomkins is surprising as a reliable netminder. Composed with nice reflexes. Controls rebounds better than Delia.
- AEL_Fox

Thanks for these updates--really appreciate them.

probably right...its acceptable after running guy into the cross bar and then use your stick as a weapon and crosscheck in the back when he is down...

i hear they teach that in peewees and midget as a "good hockey" play in the spirit of the NHL..
- bogiedoc

Btw, in no way was I saying that it SHOULD have been zero games if Arvidsson wasn't injured. That kind of play has no place in the game, and needs to be called a penalty way more than it is. I wonder how Toews would be playing today if he didn't have to deal with that every game for the last 12 years.

Rockford notes from the last few games:

The team as a whole spends way too much time in their own end struggling to clear the zone (sound familiar). They need to rely more on simple, short, quick passes to advance up ice.

Boqvist with 5 assists and quite activated in the O zone but still sloppy back on D. Misses his assignments a lot as he watches the puck too much forgetting about coverage.

Sikura is playing a complete game with plenty of poise and vision under pressure, the puck like a magnet on his stick no matter the zone, and tons of scoring chances for his mates and himself.

Highmore and Hagel are just little buggers who really hustle and agitate along the boards. Non-stop energy from these two.

Fortin, for as much as I rag on him, seems to be realizing that he can be an effective checking forward with his speed. The last 3 games have been his best all season with 2 goals and 2 assists.

Krys, believe it or not, has been the most steady blueliner the last stretch of games. Better positioning, quick plays to get the puck out of the zone, and more precise passing.

Tomkins is surprising as a reliable netminder. Composed with nice reflexes. Controls rebounds better than Delia.
- AEL_Fox

Thanks for the update Foxy.

How Entwhistle/Beaudin progressing? Does a guy like Hagel have
a chance to make it to the bigs?

Not that Buffalo would do it but...
Kane for Dahlin straight up.
Buffalo is looking for scoring, and seeing Kane/Eichel preview the next olympics or world championships would be fun.
- Slofire94

Can they toss in Miller to?

Btw, in no way was I saying that it SHOULD have been zero games if Arvidsson wasn't injured. That kind of play has no place in the game, and needs to be called a penalty way more than it is. I wonder how Toews would be playing today if he didn't have to deal with that every game for the last 12 years.
- tvetter

My guess is Coach Berube was very pleased with Bortuzzo because he knows that long term Arvidsson thinks twice about parking himself again in or near the Blue's crease. Same reaction that any of Radko Gudas' coaches have to the stuff he does on the ice.

And if one of Nashville's defenceman had done what Bortuzzo did Peter Laviolette would just say he didn't see the play from his vantage point.

It's the NHL way.

It would have been zero if Arvidsson wasn't injured.
- tvetter

Intent to injure. Bort should banned as many games that are lost by Arvidsson being out (Max 20 games).

This should be the new rule going forward to stop this nonsense.

Intent to injure. Bort should banned as many games that are lost by Arvidsson being out (Max 20 games).

This should be the new rule going forward to stop this nonsense.
- RedRevenge

Never gonna happen, too many loopholes.

Thanks for these updates--really appreciate them.
- RaleighHawk

You bet, Raleigh. Hope all is well in the Triangle.

Thanks for the update Foxy.

How Entwhistle/Beaudin progressing? Does a guy like Hagel have
a chance to make it to the bigs?
- gazza53

Of course, Gazza. Both are progressing nicely yet on a slow and steady pace as well like Kurashev.

Entwistle could be NHL ready as early as next season, IMO. Big body who can handle the physical side of the NHL as he's much like Dach being more engaged as the rough stuff ramp up. Tough to beat in 50/50 battles.

Give Entwistle this year to adjust to pro speed and he could prove to be a candidate for 4th line duty replacing Smith next season (also concerned about Caggiula's long term health with his head injuries, second one as a Hawk, IIRC).

Beaudin started off strongly as the best defender on the team with patience, smart plays, and solid positioning but has regressed a bit. Relies way too much on stick checking and needs to learn how to use his body more in areas away from the crease and corners. Not necessarily throwing checks but managing his gaps by using his body to cut off lanes for the puck carrier.

The skill and hockey smarts are there for Beaudin. Just need to get used to the physicality and speed of the pro game. Guessing he'll be NHL ready by 2021-22.