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Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Nov 23 @ 11:03 PM ET
If i was coach going forward, Corey starts the OT period, if Lehner is in goal
- BetweenTheDots


It would be an NHL first
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 23 @ 11:04 PM ET
one (frank)n helluva of a goalie show...geez...

per usual the reffing was a mixed bag...
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:05 PM ET
It would be an NHL first
- Colbyboy


Why not, Lehner has admitted it and i think he'd be on board with it
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 23 @ 11:05 PM ET
So Lehner says he's not confident in shootouts and JC leaves him in there, great coaching
- BetweenTheDots


ya going to put craw in there when he been sitting the whole game...that's nutz...and totally wrong
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:05 PM ET
So Lehner says he's not confident in shootouts and JC leaves him in there, great coaching
- BetweenTheDots

They discussed it before the shootout, and Edzo said you can't (not literally) switch goalies before the shootout. I think JC should let it be known before the game that it's Lehner's call. If he feels uncomfortable in shootouts, he can opt to sit it out. If JC makes the call, he'll always be wrong. People will either say he has no confidence in Lehner, even if Crow wins it, or they'll say he should have gone with the hot goalie who just stopped 40/41 pucks.
MichaeLionheart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: England
Joined: 02.27.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:07 PM ET
Lehner didn't even seem like he was trying during the shootout lol. ah well.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:07 PM ET
Can't fault the effort, but needed 2 points. Both goalies played great.

In 14 hours we can start b****ing about the Bears.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 23 @ 11:08 PM ET
that was a very entertaining game...

when did this khudoben become good...was't he holding water for rask for couple years...

hawks play like this every night they might have 3-4 more wins...

they play better on the road then at home...
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:09 PM ET
They discussed it before the shootout, and Edzo said you can't (not literally) switch goalies before the shootout. I think JC should let it be known before the game that it's Lehner's call. If he feels uncomfortable in shootouts, he can opt to si t.c it out. If JC makes the call, he'll always be wrong. People will either say he has no confidence in Lehner, even if Crow wins it, or they'll say he should have gone with the hot goalie who just stopped 40/41 pucks.
- tvetter


But Lehner has admitted it?

Hasn't won 1 shootout this year?

Lehner would appreciate JC doing this
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:13 PM ET
But Lehner has admitted it?

Hasn't won 1 shootout this year?

Lehner would appreciate JC doing this

- BetweenTheDots


They're talking to Lehner now and he reiterates that he is just not good at them. Basically said once it went to shootout, it was [all but] over. Said he doesn't have good hands for them.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Nov 23 @ 11:13 PM ET
Kane slashed on his break away in OT, but the ref was too busy counting players. That should be the linesman call anyway, what is the ref doing calling it?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:14 PM ET
I always told my kids, if you feel uncomfortable doing something just say my dad says i have to be home or something. In essence make me the bad guy, I'm good with it. That's the coaches job a great coach has broad shoulders.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:15 PM ET
It also doesn’t help when your 10.5 players can’t score during the shootout either.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:16 PM ET
JC letting Crawford have it after that TMM call. Wonder if he is the one calling the lines/substitutions?
- pdx2ord


I missed this. Anymore details?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:18 PM ET
They're talking to Lehner now and he reiterates that he is just not good at them. Basically said once it went to shootout, it was
- pdx2ord[all but] over. Said he doesn't have good hands for them.


We all know this, yet JC gives up a point. Don't care what Enzo says that's why he's not a coach anymore, you have to recognize and acknowledge your personnel.

Like Nagy running Cohen on 3rd and short instead of Montgomery, WTF
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:18 PM ET
It also doesn’t help when your 10.5 players can’t score during the shootout either.
- gifman


Or how many PPs
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
ya going to put craw in there when he been sitting the whole game...that's nutz...and totally wrong
- bogiedoc


I don't understand why this is a big deal.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:23 PM ET
I missed this. Anymore details?
- gifman


No just yelling and gesturing at Crawford in a rare showing of emotion for JC. He was definitely angry. I just assumed because of timing it was probably due to the TMM penalty in OT.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 23 @ 11:24 PM ET
great netminding for 65 minutes and then gets beat on the same shot 2x...
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:25 PM ET
I don't understand why this is a big deal.
- BetweenTheDots


What I mentioned earlier...Crow is slow to get into his groove this year in almost every game. Guessing that without a warmup even, it would be worse. Not saying he wouldn't be better than Lehner's 55%, but it's not a guarantee.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 23 @ 11:27 PM ET
I don't understand why this is a big deal.
- BetweenTheDots


for one you risk injury..groin or other types pulls and tweaks...

but i will give a massive disclaimer if they are in death march for a playoff spot the final month...all else being equal...i put craw in...


wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Nov 23 @ 11:27 PM ET
David Kampf, Dominik Kubalik, are not everyday NHL players on most good playoff teams,2 Of genius Bowmans moves.
Alex Nylanders compete level is like a Sunday morning pond hockey game on a frozen lake , does it look like he’s willing to pay the price to go after loose box which is probably frustrating his captain.
The rest of the league is catching up to Alex Debrincat and learning how to play him, choke him off , knock him off the puck, just give them a plain forearm shiver.
If Calgary or Ottawa wanted to trade me one of Tkachuk boys In a trade framed around DeBrincat going back the other way I make that trade.
If this team misses the playoffs there is no freaking way they can keep Bowman or Colliton past this season.
You’re starting to see three or 4000 empty seat every game, even though they are paid for this year, which they won’t be in the future. You don’t think Rocky and John McDonaugh aren’t thinking about that also.
You got rid of a Hall of Fame coach, sorry Scotty your kid has to go if there is no playoffs at the end of this year.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 23 @ 11:32 PM ET
kampf into the net was not deliberate and in the flow of the play...BS call...
shaw was hooked...stop play and a penalty
saw a few more non calls i can't remember

got the high stick and jam play calls right; but i suspect shaw jammed it in but it could not be confirmed...

kubby gets that up another 2 inched and its in...4 shots and no goal

I though kane had some great looks...

i close my eyes every time kane-strome-adb have to play in the dzone = very scary
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:33 PM ET
What I mentioned earlier...Crow is slow to get into his groove this year in almost every game. Guessing that without a warmup even, it would be worse. Not saying he wouldn't be better than Lehner's 55%, but it's not a guarantee.
- pdx2ord


Considering that it's a guaranteed loss if we go to the shoot out. Going forward i would talk to CC and say do you want the 5 minutes of OT or can you be ready for a shootout without any ice time
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:36 PM ET
Considering that it's a guaranteed loss if we go to the shoot out. Going forward i would talk to CC and say do you want the 5 minutes of OT or can you be ready for a shootout without any ice time
- BetweenTheDots


Definitely sounds like a good plan - get Lehner and Crow's buy-in to that idea and should be good to go next time

Though I would hate to be Crow losing it in the 3-on-3 after a performance like Lehner put in tonight. He'd never hear the end of it from the fans.
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