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BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
stop engaging in the straw man arguments.

Babs is gone, its a new day

- senstroll



same cross section of blind fan boys...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
i am saying you trade Rielly for another D, one who is more suited to play in his own end.

I am not saying trade Rielly for a 7th and move Ceci to his spot

- senstroll

If I'm GM , I'm moving a forward for a defenceman.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
Sooooooo...., imagine you were a Columbus Blue Jacket last year:


- Atomic Wedgie


In the NHL Player Poll conducted by the Athletic, the coach players most want to play for:

Cooper & Gallant (23%)
Trotz (11%)
Maurice & Tortorella (6%)

The coach the players would LEAST like to play for:

Tortorella (30%)
Hitchcock (27%)
Babcock (15%)
Carlyle (11%)
Boucher (3%)

Of the coaches that players don't want to play for, only Tortorella is still employed.

MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
The Leafs' defence sucks so franking much, trading Rielly would just further hurt us.

I know what you are saying, but the circumstances dictate that the Leafs must keep him.

- Atomic Wedgie

Interesting that Babcock explicitly thanked Rielly.
He's the only gud pro of the Leafs core? Or just bc he was here the whole time when Babcock was there?
Can the coach change assistant captains by the way?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
If I'm GM , I'm moving a forward for a defenceman.
- Atomic Wedgie

Nylander for

Severson
Dumba
Letang
Manson
Petry
Ristoleinen
Pesce
Anyone
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
If I'm GM , I'm moving a forward for a defenceman.
- Atomic Wedgie

2 offseasons ago
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
i am saying you trade Rielly for another D, one who is more suited to play in his own end.

I am not saying trade Rielly for a 7th and move Ceci to his spot

- senstroll


Rielly has played the past 3 years with Hainsey and Ceci. He had 72 points last season and finished 5th in Norris voting. He's also 25 and making 5 million per. To even think of moving him is crazy
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
Nylander for

Severson
Dumba
Letang
Manson
Petry
Ristoleinen
Pesce
Anyone

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Yeah let's repeat Chiarelli's mistakes!!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
It's funny that people hear so many times Nylander is millions overpaid they just repeat this nonsense.

Teams will line-up for him.

- RogerRoeper

Outside of one person, i havent heard anyone say melander is "millions" overpaid.
I said when he signed, it was for 500gs too much.
If he gets 65 -70pts this season then contract is what hes suppose to be paid
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
Interesting that Babcock explicitly thanked Rielly.
He's the only gud pro of the Leafs core? Or just bc he was here the whole time when Babcock was there?
Can the coach change assistant captains by the way?

- MaximusAurelius

I think there was division in the room, and Rielly was on Babs side.

Mo obviously still commands the room, but I think we’ll see more of a team leaderships thing happen. They’ll look to Keefe, or whoever Keefe anoints..
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Nov 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
Nylander for

Severson
Dumba
Letang
Manson
Petry
Ristoleinen
Pesce
Anyone

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Gardiner
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Outside of one person, i havent heard anyone say melander is "millions" overpaid.
I said when he signed, it was for 500gs too much.
If he gets 65 -70pts this season then contract is what hes suppose to be paid

- Fakepartofme


Really?

I've seen quite a few on here say he is worth no more than 4 million.

Plenty on twitter.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Nov 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Interesting that Babcock explicitly thanked Rielly.
He's the only gud pro of the Leafs core? Or just bc he was here the whole time when Babcock was there?
Can the coach change assistant captains by the way?

- MaximusAurelius


The guy is fired, who cares?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
2 offseasons ago
- MaximusAurelius


it was during the season

https://www.nhl.com/news/...angeles-kings/c-304287726

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Really?

I've seen quite a few on here say he is worth no more than 4 million.

Plenty on twitter.

- Santo_44


Same here.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
What stands out to me the most here is the Martin, Komarov vs "fluff"...WOW what a difference. Kadri vs Kerfoot is quite huge also (but they got Barrie out of that deal).

Leafs fired the wrong guy, this GM should be sent back to Hogwarts.

- JLO961


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
Rielly has played the past 3 years with Hainsey and Ceci. He had 72 points last season and finished 5th in Norris voting. He's also 25 and making 5 million per. To even think of moving him is crazy
- RogerRoeper

Hainsey helped him so much.
But ya, dont trade reilly
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
I am not saying trade him and bring back marincin

But...he is really bad in his own end.
I am willing to see how things play out with Keefe though

- senstroll



this is absolutely hilarious...Rielly, who has been paired with a new partner this season, who's playing behind a group of underperforming forwards is having a down year from last year.

so - at the moment - he's not as good in his own zone...


"he is really bad in his own end"

Nylander was absolute shyte for 2/3 of a year last year and you did nothing but try and find excuses to blame his "shyteness" on anyone or anything else.

and now the only d man the Leafs have that is legitimately a top 2 type defender in the league.. and you want to run him out of town.

I think it was Einstein... he said something like "there are two things in the universe that are unlimited... the universe itself - and human stupidity"...

oh boy
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
Gardiner
- BINGO!


Gardiner is now a #5 D making 4 million per. He's playing by far less than ever before

Trading Nylander for a #4 D is a terrible idea.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
Hainsey helped him so much.
But ya, dont trade reilly

- Fakepartofme


Hainsey had no business on the top-pairing
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
I think there was division in the room, and Rielly was on Babs side.

Mo obviously still commands the room, but I think we’ll see more of a team leaderships thing happen. They’ll look to Keefe, or whoever Keefe anoints..

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Based on what? A hunch?

Babs obviously thought highly of Rielly but I see no evidence that he liked Babs.

According to Mirtle's sources pretty much the entire room was happy he is gone...You'd have to think the other few were at least content with change given how the season has gone.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
Rielly has played the past 3 years with Hainsey and Ceci. He had 72 points last season and finished 5th in Norris voting. He's also 25 and making 5 million per. To even think of moving him is crazy
- RogerRoeper


its not.

also the only thing I care about the the 5 mil part. As i agree it would be difficult to replace him for the same'ish price.

points, norris voting lol etc..doesnt matter.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
Same here.
- RogerRoeper

Who in here says willie should be paid 4.9m per?
Outside of the one.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 21 @ 10:49 AM ET
Hainsey had no business on the top-pairing
- RogerRoeper

I was on the Hainsey hate train too but now that he is gone I think it is obvious that pairing worked fine.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:49 AM ET
its not.

also the only thing I care about the the 5 mil part. As i agree it would be difficult to replace him for the same'ish price.

points, norris voting lol etc..doesnt matter.

- senstroll



He's a #1 D making 5 million entering his prime.
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