I feel like this is going to come in handy over the next few days/weeks

via GIPHY

- senstroll

Management did not manage this properly
Put keefe in a bad situation.
But i expect the leafs to win tonight, this soft team will put forth an effort finally.

Looking forward to seeing how the players will be used, perhaps see a little less of the 4th line. Unless the team needs some heart on the ice.

Management did not manage this properly
Put keefe in a bad situation.
But i expect the leafs to win tonight, this soft team will put forth an effort finally.

Looking forward to seeing how the players will be used, perhaps see a little less of the 4th line. Unless the team needs some heart on the ice.
- Fakepartofme

when I think of Gauthier, I certainly think of heart

While you're at it, I know of a seagull that needs some serious help...
- lumlums

there goes my degree in economy
- 21peter

Economics Degree

Like my 1st year professor used to say, if you want to get rich, leave class and enroll in a degree in business, if you want to understand why you're not rich then you're in the right place

- Aetherial

It's even funnier if you know what he's laughing at

There are people protesting to deport people or something like that...his reaction is priceless

Management did not manage this properly
Put keefe in a bad situation.
But i expect the leafs to win tonight, this soft team will put forth an effort finally.

Looking forward to seeing how the players will be used, perhaps see a little less of the 4th line. Unless the team needs some heart on the ice.
- Fakepartofme

In all fairness, what are they supposed to do? They can't be ready to write-off the season or they wouldn't have fired Babcock. He wasn't getting results, the players were clearly not playing for him nor were they executing, and I'd speculate that at points his shenanigans start to create ill will between him and the coaching staff.

They could fire Babs and then put Hakstol in as the interim coach, but that's a terrible position - Hakstol sucks. They might as well put in the athletic trainer as the coach; there'd at least be fewer point shots.

If you're trying to recover and not lose the season, I would think Keefe is the only way to go. Maybe it falls on its face and it ends up as a lost season, but you have to try.

Economics Degree

Like my 1st year professor used to say, if you want to get rich, leave class and enroll in a degree in business, if you want to understand why you're not rich then you're in the right place
- TheMussel

as my professor used to say: why the (frank) is there a fox in here?

It's even funnier if you know what he's laughing at

There are people protesting to deport people or something like that...his reaction is priceless
- RickJames77

You're right, that does make it more funny!

Here is an interesting take on Babs

https://twitter.com/1967e...tatus/1121245537397817344

i think it covers a lot of the complaints I have seen. playing 4th line in crucial times etc.

the quickest and easiest tell will be how Keefe uses the D.
keep pairings together?

I was not planning to stay up to watch tonight, but i will now

In all fairness, what are they supposed to do? They can't be ready to write-off the season or they wouldn't have fired Babcock. He wasn't getting results, the players were clearly not playing for him nor were they executing, and I'd speculate that at points his shenanigans start to create ill will between him and the coaching staff.

They could fire Babs and then put Hakstol in as the interim coach, but that's a terrible position - Hakstol sucks. They might as well put in the athletic trainer as the coach; there'd at least be fewer point shots.

If you're trying to recover and not lose the season, I would think Keefe is the only way to go. Maybe it falls on its face and it ends up as a lost season, but you have to try.
- Monkeypunk

If the Leafs didnt have the 1st round pick dilema I could see going the interm route maybe.

the options are try to fully tank to get top 10 pick or make the playoffs. no room for the mushy middle

James Mirtle
@mirtle
Source: ~90% of the Leafs were relieved to see Mike Babcock go.

The GM obviously was ready for it, too. Now the heat is on them with their season on the line.

On the end, why it happened and what comes next @TheAthleticTO

https://twitter.com/mirtl...tatus/1197504295911866374
- CarlitoBrigante

90%?

Hyman probably cried himself to sleep he already put a massive down payment on a 150 foot yacht.

I feel like this is going to come in handy over the next few days/weeks

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- senstroll

It has been a perfect description for the season until now so I don’t expect that to change.

If the Leafs didnt have the 1st round pick dilema I could see going the interm route maybe.

the options are try to fully tank to get top 10 pick or make the playoffs. no room for the mushy middle
- senstroll

That's exactly where we'll end up :D

Lou & Babcock vs Dubas & Keefe

Gardiner vs Barrie
Zaitsev vs Ceci
Borgman vs Schmaltz
Kadri vs Kerfoot
McElhinney vs Sparks/Hutchinson
Brown, Marleau, 2 1st rounders, Durzi, Grundstrom vs Muzzin and capspace
Martin, Komarov, Lindholm vs Petan, Spezza, Shore
Mikheyev vs no Mikheyev

Let's agree that the Lou&Babcock combination has already proven to be quite a bit better than the Dubas&Keefe side.
- MaximusAurelius

I...i dont get this.
Shouldnt you let dubas and keefe have a chance to show what they can do at the nhl level first before we make comparisons.
Keefe as a good record in his prior leagues, i get that the leaf bench is very inexperienced at the nhl level and that this isnt a great situation to bring a new green coach in (green only at the nhl level).
But keefe has shown he can coach and hes been successful at it.
Youve made your point about his past and no one is gonna change your opinion.
But give him a shot.
And not 2 games.
Give the coach some time.

90%?

Hyman probably cried himself to sleep he already put a massive down payment on a 150 foot yacht.
- Santo_44

Hyman ain't the biggest breadwinner in that family so I think he's good to get a yacht still

Big win tomorrow night, win the next few hopefully.

I like Babs, sad to see him leave...would have been nice if he took a different role ( would never happen), I like Keefe and Dubas too, so it is what it is.
- Garnie

If babcock took a new role he would have start injecting his opinion in the team and the way they are run on the ice.. you have to fully remove him.

Put barrie with reilly.....let them go.
We know the d is bad, but lets get barrie going, get his confidence back up.
Then separate and put a responsible d man with each.
Ceci to 3rd pair.

90%?

Hyman probably cried himself to sleep he already put a massive down payment on a 150 foot yacht.
- Santo_44

O’dog said yesterday on overdrive that he had inside knowledge that maybe 1 or 2 guys in the room liked babcock...

Lou & Babcock vs Dubas & Keefe

Gardiner vs Barrie
Zaitsev vs Ceci
Borgman vs Schmaltz
Kadri vs Kerfoot
McElhinney vs Sparks/Hutchinson
Brown, Marleau, 2 1st rounders, Durzi, Grundstrom vs Muzzin and capspace
Martin, Komarov, Lindholm vs Petan, Spezza, Shore
Mikheyev vs no Mikheyev

Let's agree that the Lou&Babcock combination has already proven to be quite a bit better than the Dubas&Keefe side.
- MaximusAurelius

But that's the thing: nobody agrees with you.

O’dog said yesterday on overdrive that he had inside knowledge that maybe 1 or 2 guys in the room liked babcock...
- bryant

Rielly. Probably Tavares.

Babs was considered the best available at the time. But for whatever reasons, he lost this room. He was also very set in his ways and was a bit too old school for a lot of the folks in that locker room. We can harp on Commodore but for him to be going on about it this long after the fact regardless if he was poop or not, to me says something even if you take it with a grain of salt.

Then there was the players meetings a few days ago before this went down.

Babs ONLY thanked Rielly publicly and was ambigous with the rest.

I dont think the core of the team other than maybe Rielly wanted to deal with him any longer. I think the Spezza thing was the last straw. I mean the guy took league min to play here and was treated pooply. He lost a lot of the guys with that alone (and his past reputation) so they tuned him out. We can argue that the players are self entitled brats etc but a good leader/coach brings the best of people.

As for Keefe, he could be temporary. Kind of an unfair chance to give him, but lets see what he can do with it. At this point with playoffs looking like a pipe dream and even IF they make it, it will be another first round exit. They made the change, its time to see what transpires from it.

Put barrie with reilly.....let them go.
We know the d is bad, but lets get barrie going, get his confidence back up.
Then separate and put a responsible d man with each.
Ceci to 3rd pair.
- Fakepartofme

Exactly. They are better off playing to there strengths until they get a system the players understand and can execute.

They play to much in the middle of what they want and what they are suppose to do and makes for too many mistakes and glaring holes.

O’dog said yesterday on overdrive that he had inside knowledge that maybe 1 or 2 guys in the room liked babcock...
- bryant

I hope O'Dog becomes the new darren dreger

Mike Babcock didn't give Nylander all of that money and he is not the one that didn't trade Matthews at his peak.

Leafs fired the wrong guy.