Is Max still with us? I’m assuming he had a coronary when Keefe was anointed the chief

i guess that's why our bottom 6 only looks better than your guys
- Steven_Stamkos

What's that say about the Leafs ? being 9 points behind the inferior Oilers bottom six.

Mrs. Wedgie just called - she has a business meeting in Philly on December 3rd.

So I went and checked the schedule....

Tempting.

I feel a lot better about this than I expected.

This seems like the natural progression. Hope it works

Throw in a shin pad and you got yourself a deal.
- Garnie

How about a jizz rag ? then you could clone a whole team of McDavids.

Heard a great analogy on the Fan590 on why defense is so difficult to play.

It is like weightlifting. You know you need to do it, and you decide to put in the work. So, you go at it for 5 days. You feel good about it but Saturday, you decide you deserve a break. Then Sunday comes along, and you decide to go watch football with your friends. Monday and Tuesday, you are busy or have plans after work...

Before you know it, you have gone 4 days without working out.

Defense requires CONSTANT commitment and work. You either put that effort in, all day every day, or you are mediocre, at best.

I loved that analogy because we an all relate to that pattern of behaviour. The only thing I would add is that you could apply the same analogy to working hard in the offensive zone also.

The Leafs have fallen apart because they don't put in a full 60 anywhere on the ice.
- Aetherial

And you just franking know Keefe is going to let the boys skip leg day.

Mrs. Wedgie just called - she has a business meeting in Philly on November 3rd.

So I went and checked the schedule....

Tempting.
- Atomic Wedgie

She has a meeting in Philly....17 days ago?

What's that say about the Leafs ? being 9 points behind the inferior Oilers bottom six.
- Reveen

Have we learned nothing from the history you guys have of saying stupid poop like this, and it having aged terribly by January?

They had continued success because they had 3X the payroll of any other AHL team.

Leafs fans are all gaga about the "development system of the Marlies" because for the first time in 50 years, we actually have a development system.

Newsflash: it isn't that great. It's just the first time you've ever seen a player successfully come up from the AHL, so you (and that's the collective "you") think it's a great accomplishment.

Here's the truth of the matter:

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008490.html

The Leafs haven't done anything in terms of developing players in the past few years that would impress anyone.

Selecting the random starting point of 2012, the only guy who "overachieved" was Connor Brown - and many predicted that. It was a case of him being drafted too low.

2013: Johnsson was a 7th round Euro pick. He did the majority of his development in Sweden. Nobody else did squat.

2014: Nothing

2015: Dermott was a high 2nd rounder. Right now, he looks like a 5th-6th guy on the blueline. No miracles from the Marlies.

2016: Too soon to tell, but nothing so far looks promising (maybe Woll).

Please tell me again how the Marlies are giving us a competitive advantage - and explain it to me like I'm a bitter old Leafs fan who is tired of this poop.
- Atomic Wedgie

No mention to undrafted guys eh....

Hyman and Moore?

(frank) Kap and Johnnson too eh?

Dermott and Holl? Nah no montion of Holl either

Goat and now Tamishov?

Nylander went through the system as well.

Most of the team is consisted of Marlies graduates.

I’ve heard players that played in junior for him never spoke to him once during their time, and he was the head coach/gm/owner

( some players not all )

But I think he’ll do fine, that was a long time ago.
- Garnie

i met keefe at the rink last summer in AZ.

my impression of him after seeing him a few times ... he's easily rattled.

I find it interesting Babcock directly praised Rielly and no one else.

She has a meeting in Philly....17 days ago?
- Steven_Seagull

Fixed!

Like I wish your mom's mailman was...

Fixed!

Like I wish your mom's mailman was...
- Atomic Wedgie

Mr. Wilson? Never liked that guy. Always called me a menace.

No mention to undrafted guys eh....

Hyman and Moore?

(frank) Kap and Johnnson too eh?

Dermott and Holl? Nah no montion of Holl either

Goat and now Tamishov?

Nylander went through the system as well.

Most of the team is consisted of Marlies graduates.
- Santo_44

Sandin will be a very good player as well.

Holy smokes what a shiit show.

i met keefe at the rink last summer in AZ.

my impression of him after seeing him a few times ... he's easily rattled.
- Steven_Stamkos

Well done 👍

No mention to undrafted guys eh....

Hyman and Moore?

(frank) Kap and Johnnson too eh?

Dermott and Holl? Nah no montion of Holl either

Goat and now Tamishov?

Nylander went through the system as well.

Most of the team is consisted of Marlies graduates.
- Santo_44

I started to type all the names out that came off the top of my head...but just deleted it

The Leafs have really shifted how the develop players pre Shanny days.
Its still a WIP and to really see results org wide take years and years

Sandin will be a very good player as well.

Holy smokes what a shiit show.
- bixll

Yeah but nah.

The Marlies only developed Dermott

No mention to undrafted guys eh....

Hyman and Moore?

(frank) Kap and Johnnson too eh?

Dermott and Holl? Nah no montion of Holl either

Goat and now Tamishov?

Nylander went through the system as well.

Most of the team is consisted of Marlies graduates.
- Santo_44

So now we are giving credit for 1st round picks playing in the AHL first?

Gauthier? Really?

I find it interesting Babcock directly praised Rielly and no one else.
- RickJames77

Yep.
And Larry and Lou but not Shanny.
Interesting.

Sandin will be a very good player as well.

Holy smokes what a shiit show.
- bixll

Bix

I feel a lot better about this than I expected.

This seems like the natural progression. Hope it works
- senstroll

It literally cant be worse than what he had

Sandin will be a very good player as well.

Holy smokes what a shiit show.
- bixll

Liljegren has been the Marlies #1 d-man this season.

Sucks that both Liljegren and Sandin got hurt recently.

I started to type all the names out that came off the top of my head...but just deleted it

The Leafs have really shifted how the develop players pre Shanny days.
Its still a WIP and to really see results org wide take years and years
- senstroll

Kap and Nylander were 1st rounders.

But then you have a lot of undrafted and mid to late picks that are contributing to the Leafs today.

It is insane to say the Marlies haven't done a great job developing.

Craig Button loves Sheldon Keefe



We're doomed

And you just franking know Keefe is going to let the boys skip leg day.
- Atomic Wedgie

Two questions for you Wedgie:

Is this based on anything, a rep for being slack or just your assumption based on age, Dubas connection, etc?

Do you think they should have kept Babs or found someone else, currently available?