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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 19 @ 4:18 PM ET
My expectations remain the same for Nolan Patrick. Top six center
- SuperSchennBros

Yea, probably best to leave it at that. Really is a bummer on to me, a solid start to the season. Team has gotten really good goaltending, need a few guys to pick up their play and we should be good.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Nov 19 @ 4:18 PM ET
Ryan is 2 years older with 13 seasons under his belt. JVR is 2 years younger with 11 seasons under his belt.

Bobby Ryan - 250 Goals 301 Assists for 551 points
JVR: 232 Goals, 218 assists 450 points

To match Ryan, JVR just has to average 50.5 points over this season and next season.....

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Ryan - .668 PPG
JVR - .647 PPG

its pretty close. Ryan's play really has tailed off the last 4 seasons. He was never a great skater so that could have something to do with it. I can say this much, given the choice between the two right now, i am taking JVR but as you said he is 2 years younger
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 19 @ 4:21 PM ET
Yea, probably best to leave it at that. Really is a bummer on to me, a solid start to the season. Team has gotten really good goaltending, need a few guys to pick up their play and we should be good.
- ClaudeFather

If Patrick is able to continue his career, I expect him to surpass 13 goals and 31 points.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
If Patrick is able to continue his career, I expect him to surpass 13 goals and 31 points.
- SuperSchennBros

Lol i expect the same!
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Nov 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
nope. its a fact. both are 2ndrd bust. please prove to me how otherwise they are not.
- daryl stanley

Well, a couple things, my goal posts are obviously in a different location than your when it comes to the term "miss", as you put it. You said "several misses as well", which is a slight, to me, against Ron Hextall and pretty much every GM in the league in terms of drafting.

Secondly, the reality is, that's just the norm in drafting, nothing unique to Ron Hextall at all. No one produces seven players a year with seven picks, that's just dreamland. Every GM, except two, missed in the second round of 2016, as per your definition, so to me that's just normality.

Now if there was a kid like Patrice Bergeron two or three picks behind Laberge, ok, clearly he 'missed' on his pick, but that wasn't the case.

We just aren't speaking the same language is all, and that's perfectly fine.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 19 @ 5:07 PM ET
nope. its a fact. both are 2ndrd bust. please prove to me how otherwise they are not.
- daryl stanley

After you provide yourself a high velocity metallic projectile through your medulla oblongata
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Nov 19 @ 5:32 PM ET
Prospect update. No one shooting lights out anywhere in our system season to date. Top prospects including Brink, OBrien? and York performing fine but not exceptionally. Cole Caufield on the other hand has 9 goals in 10 games for Wisconsin. Lets hope our York plus Brink strategy over Cole doesn't embarrass the team. I am beginning to think everyone who passed on him will regret it.
- biggbear77


ahh, negativity already against our most recent draft class. when will it end????
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Nov 19 @ 5:36 PM ET
Im trying to remember the “Legion of Dumb” line from a couple years back. Was it schenn, lecavalier, and Simmonds?
- Shrike


I believe that was Lupul Carter Hartsy
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 19 @ 5:49 PM ET
I believe that was Lupul Carter Hartsy
- sjk540

They were the

Legion of Poon
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 19 @ 5:56 PM ET
There wasn’t a legion of dumb line.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 19 @ 6:04 PM ET
If you go back 20 years how many players drafted # 2 have been a bust?

Ryan Murray, Jordan Staal.... Would you call them busts? Can't find worse players than them at # 2

- PLindbergh31



I wouldn’t label him a bust yet and isn’t as a hockey player imo. Injuries are a different story. People make it seem like he is a yakupov.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 19 @ 6:05 PM ET
Ryan - .668 PPG
JVR - .647 PPG

its pretty close. Ryan's play really has tailed off the last 4 seasons. He was never a great skater so that could have something to do with it. I can say this much, given the choice between the two right now, i am taking JVR but as you said he is 2 years younger

- nastyflyergirl



And going from a cup contender to Ottawa does great things for motivation. Ottawa has been a train wreck for years. All the good players as soon as they get a chance have left recently. Why is that.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Nov 19 @ 6:44 PM ET
Good luck to Morgan Frost tonight in his first NHL game.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Nov 19 @ 7:05 PM ET
Flyers 4-2 win goals by
Giroux
Hayes
Ghost
JVR

Frost with an assist
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Nov 19 @ 7:06 PM ET
Hope Frost get his hardon off, after the Taryn interview before the game
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 19 @ 7:10 PM ET
Ugh..

what are there, 3000 people at this game?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 19 @ 7:10 PM ET
Happy to see Frost but if he’s the answer to all our prayers centering the top line, we are in bigger trouble than I realized
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 19 @ 7:15 PM ET
for (frank)s sake, ghost
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 19 @ 7:16 PM ET
Ugh..

what are there, 3000 people at this game?

- opeth_pa


I was just gonna post, lots of good seats in sunrise haha

15 people there. What a farce.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Nov 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
Voraceck lost the puck ,bad ice, ton of empty seats
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
Sanheim with a BB
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
Walks into
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Nov 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
the BUM line getting it done
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
sanheim is a sniper
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 19 @ 7:22 PM ET
Hayes breaks ten game point drought.
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