PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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If Dubas would not allow him to talk to a player that upwards of 20 teams were interested in that would be retarded. - aminnes
So Dubas does deserve credit? |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Personally I would have used Barrie on the first unit at least sometimes. However, looking a the first PP unit who comes off? Someone is getting pissed off. Nylander? Marner? Barrie is a needless asset on the Leafs. Supply and demand. - aminnes
Sure, we have Rielly and he's the #1 guy here, but what's wrong with having two guys that can quarterback a powerplay?
Shouldn't the coach know how/when to use his players? Or to play a player to their strengths? |
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I'm at the point where I'd welcome this trade:
Matthews + Nylander
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Barkov + Ekblad |
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RickJames77
Boston Bruins |
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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Personally I would have used Barrie on the first unit at least sometimes. However, looking a the first PP unit who comes off? Someone is getting pissed off. Nylander? Marner? Barrie is a needless asset on the Leafs. Supply and demand. - aminnes
At this point, don't you have to assess anyone that's on the PP in order to try and find a fix? It's unbelievable how ineffective it is dating back to Christmas time last year. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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So Dubas does deserve credit? - PatC80
If he allowed it, no, that's the least of his job.
If he didn't, he's a dumbass. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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At this point, don't you have to assess anyone that's on the PP in order to try and find a fix? It's unbelievable how ineffective it is dating back to Christmas time last year. - RickJames77
thank you for saying it;
Our PP really sucks, you know what will work? Trying the exact same thing over and over again. |
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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore Joined: 10.29.2007
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I agree, but he didn't... Barrie is an upgrade on Gardiner and should be used as an offensive d-man, not asked to change his game and learn how to be a stay-at-home defenseman..
That's like asking Gauthier to center the 1st PP unit. - PatC80
actually - that would be a hell of a good idea... the Goat on the PP... takes the faceoff and goes to the front of the net....
there's no one else going there now... would send a good message to the guys currently on the powerplay wouldn't it.
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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver Island, BC Joined: 01.18.2015
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I'm at the point where I'd welcome this trade:
Matthews + Nylander
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Barkov + Ekblad - MaximusAurelius
I recall proposing Nylander for Huberdeau last year and everyone said I was a derp
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At this point, don't you have to assess anyone that's on the PP in order to try and find a fix? It's unbelievable how ineffective it is dating back to Christmas time last year. - RickJames77
Babcocks been at 'put your best 5 offensive players out at once, have the point wing shots at the net and hack at rebounds' for about 12 months now. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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At this point, don't you have to assess anyone that's on the PP in order to try and find a fix? It's unbelievable how ineffective it is dating back to Christmas time last year. - RickJames77
Agreed.
Sometimes a weird change can just shake things up enough for it to work.
For example, you won't find a Habs fan that can explain to you why, but Joel Armia on the powerplay actually helps despite him never scoring. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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I'm at the point where I'd welcome this trade:
Matthews + Nylander
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Barkov + Ekblad - MaximusAurelius
the cap savings make that a good deal but they are losing talent. hope they get someone good with the money they save. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I recall proposing Nylander for Huberdeau last year and everyone said I was a derp
🖕 - mr.sir
Yes.
Because no way in hell would Florida make that trade. Not a year ago, not now, not ever.
So yeah, it was pretty derp. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I recall proposing Nylander for Huberdeau last year and everyone said I was a derp
🖕 - mr.sir
Panthers fans probably would be calling you a derp with his 5.9mil for 92 points. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Yes.
Because no way in hell would Florida make that trade. Not a year ago, not now, not ever.
So yeah, it was pretty derp. - Scabeh
lol yes |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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At this point, don't you have to assess anyone that's on the PP in order to try and find a fix? It's unbelievable how ineffective it is dating back to Christmas time last year. - RickJames77
He does play on the PP, just not the first unit. At some point the team has to find guys that can produce without playing with MM, AM, and JT.
But again, I would at least put him out there once in a while just to see what's up. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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actually - that would be a hell of a good idea... the Goat on the PP... takes the faceoff and goes to the front of the net....
there's no one else going there now... would send a good message to the guys currently on the powerplay wouldn't it. - BorjeFan4Ever
Are you inferring that Babcock would actually consider making a change? |
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the cap savings make that a good deal but they are losing talent. hope they get someone good with the money they save. - daeth
While Matthews in potential is a the best player - it would make Leafs directly a much better team. |
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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore Joined: 10.29.2007
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How is that comparable?
Nylander's situation was way different than Barrie's. - PatC80
a precipitous drop in measured performance... not similar at all.
the reasons are different... one happened because one guy signed a new contract... the other got traded...
but both put into situations that they couldn't perform in....
circumstances, sure.
blame the coach if you like, but some is certainly on the player... and some is on the GM - in each case |
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Panthers fans probably would be calling you a derp with his 5.9mil for 92 points. - AdamFrench
Nylander is a sure bet future Selke winner though |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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did you blame Babego when 70pt Nylander turned into 6 goal Nylander last season? was it Babcock's fault that Nylander was out of shape and missed camp? - BorjeFan4Ever
No. It was Nylander’s fault. This isn’t the same scenario. Barrie is being made to change his playing style, and it’s hurting his production. |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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Nylander is a sure bet future Selke winner though - MaximusAurelius
Said literally no one. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Sure, we have Rielly and he's the #1 guy here, but what's wrong with having two guys that can quarterback a powerplay?
Shouldn't the coach know how/when to use his players? Or to play a player to their strengths? - PatC80
Ya. It looks like he is using Barrie as a normal defensive d man as that is what he needed and was not given. Just my theory. |
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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore Joined: 10.29.2007
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Are you inferring that Babcock would actually consider making a change? - PatC80
well... maybe for one powerplay? |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Agreed.
Sometimes a weird change can just shake things up enough for it to work.
For example, you won't find a Habs fan that can explain to you why, but Joel Armia on the powerplay actually helps despite him never scoring. - Scabeh
the goat it is then;
Matthews-goat-Tavares
Nylander-Rielly on the point
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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Personally I would have used Barrie on the first unit at least sometimes. However, looking a the first PP unit who comes off? Someone is getting pissed off. Nylander? Marner? Barrie is a needless asset on the Leafs. Supply and demand. - aminnes
Yeah, cause the powerplay looks great. |
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