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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 16 @ 8:24 AM ET
Tyson Barrie before Babs:
484 GP, 75 goals, S% 7.0

with Babs:
21 GP, 0 goals, most SOG in the league without a goal (55).

- 21peter



Pp specialist no getting pp time.

Puck rushin dman told not to rush, play conservative

CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.22.2012

Nov 16 @ 8:24 AM ET
A cartoon character that highlights harsh realities.
- daws44


Craig Button is my new favourite TSN analyst....

Love how hes ripping dubas and the leafs a new A-hole
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 16 @ 8:26 AM ET
No.
Beta nerds in general are intelligent and capable.
Dubas is lots of talk and windowdressing, but almost no real content. The guy isnt smart nor has any proper formal education.

- MaximusAurelius

Ok enough.
You truly dont know any of this
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 16 @ 8:28 AM ET
Rielly has been poop all year. Time to at minimum take him off the top pp, and stop playing against the top lines. He’s been getting burned all year.
- bryant


Rielly is the new Gardiner. Sorry I had to say it. But if he is not paired with someone who covers up for his glaring mistakes, he stands out a (frank) ton more. I'm not going to blame Ceci either, he's new to the system and hasn't been all that bad.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:28 AM ET
Did Dubas and Babcock not discuss how Barrie would be used? Same with Spezza. I don't understand what the hell is going on.

Barrie must be furious. This is costing him millions.

You HAVE to fire the coach. You can't waste another season. Have Keefe come in and simply play the best lineup (Which never occurs now). You will get better results just from that.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:30 AM ET
Rielly is the new Gardiner. Sorry I had to say it. But if he is not paired with someone who covers up for his glaring mistakes, he stands out a (frank) ton more. I'm not going to blame Ceci either, he's new to the system and hasn't been all that bad.
- Buck Norris


WTF? He's paired every year with horrible partners. When is he paired with anyone that's actually good? All the other dMen who got Norris consideration last year played with far better partners.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 16 @ 8:31 AM ET
He's not being over dramatic for reaction at all.
- burn

Hes got you worked up.

He was the only analyst to point out concerns for the leafs in the off season and pre season

Hes been right so far.

And im not a fan of his.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 16 @ 8:32 AM ET
WTF? He's paired every year with horrible partners. When is he paired with anyone that's actually good? All the other dMen who got Norris consideration last year played with far better partners.
- RogerRoeper

Yawn.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 16 @ 8:34 AM ET
Tyson Barrie before Babs:
484 GP, 75 goals, S% 7.0

with Babs:
21 GP, 0 goals, most SOG in the league without a goal (55).

- 21peter

Barrie's PDO is 94.9 (lowest of his career)

It's just bad luck, simple as that. He's playing awesome. It'll come around.

It's still early. (IMO)
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 16 @ 8:34 AM ET
Pp specialist no getting pp time.

Puck rushin dman told not to rush, play conservative

- burn

Last 6 seasons, Barrie has scored 73 goals in 442 games. PP time is a big part of why he has a 16.5 S%!
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:35 AM ET
Fire the coach and this team is an automatic contender imo.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 16 @ 8:35 AM ET
Barrie's PDO is 94.9 (lowest of his career)

It's just bad luck, simple as that. He's playing awesome. It'll come around.

It's still early. (IMO)

- walshyleafsfan

no wrong usage in there...?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:37 AM ET
Babs will not get canned. He's been using a diminished roster all season so far. First Hyman and Dermott, Muzzin for a bit. Then Tavares and Marner, Kerfoot and now Moore. You can say all you want that injuries are part of the game but to me this is a little different of a situation. How you ask?
Well since the roster turn around was quite large from last year, your asking players still getting up to par on the system to fill a different roll for an injured teammate. Mikheyev, Spezza, Shore, Ceci, Petan are asked to flip around all over the roster to accommodate the loss. If you can't see that problem right there, then something is wrong. It would of been easier if these players were in the system the last few years but they alas they were not. So we gotta deal with it IMO.

- Buck Norris


The issue with the injuries is this team was playing bad from December 2018 and they came close to firing him in April.
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 16 @ 8:37 AM ET
Injuries don't answer why this team that is so talented is playing so boring. It doesn't answer why the special teams suck so much. It doesn't justify the baffling decisions made.

This team is way too good to have like 2 wins in their last 14 games. Sure injuries hurt, and now their piling up but they should be winning more than they are even with the injuries.

- burn


Oh I agree. I'm was just stating the reason why I think he won't be fired. I actually think his decision making is (frank)ing awful.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 16 @ 8:39 AM ET
Did Dubas and Babcock not discuss how Barrie would be used? Same with Spezza. I don't understand what the hell is going on.

Barrie must be furious. This is costing him millions.

You HAVE to fire the coach. You can't waste another season. Have Keefe come in and simply play the best lineup (Which never occurs now). You will get better results just from that.

- RogerRoeper


Spezza sucks and we didn’t need another rover on D, but please can the coach so we see this without blaming the coach....hopefully today at lunch Babs is gone.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 16 @ 8:42 AM ET
Oh I agree. I'm was just stating the reason why I think he won't be fired. I actually think his decision making is (frank)ing awful.

- Buck Norris



I don't know if the injury excuse is enough of a crutch to not fire him for the awful decisions.

If the players simply don't want to play for him anymore, aren't responding to him then no choice but to let him go. They've been behind early all the time. Last year they were alway out front early. It's a big differnce to have early lead vs having to chase the game all night.
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 16 @ 8:44 AM ET
WTF? He's paired every year with horrible partners. When is he paired with anyone that's actually good? All the other dMen who got Norris consideration last year played with far better partners.
- RogerRoeper
.

Um that's why I said not paired with the right partner
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 16 @ 8:45 AM ET
no wrong usage in there...?
- 21peter

Don't think so. Asking a dman to occasionally play D while giving him the highest (or 2nd if you count Dermott's 8 games) Ozone% starts on the team isn't too much to ask of a "top pairing" dman
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:48 AM ET
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Um that's why I said not paired with the right partner

- Buck Norris


Where's the proof he needs a great partner to be very good? He had 72 points and had Norris votescarrying around Ron Hainsey last year.

Gardiner goes to another team and his usage drops horriobly. Rieelly is a legit #1 D.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:51 AM ET
Spezza sucks and we didn’t need another rover on D, but please can the coach so we see this without blaming the coach....hopefully today at lunch Babs is gone.
- Garnie


Advanced stats say Spezza is very solid.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 16 @ 8:52 AM ET
Don't think so. Asking a dman to occasionally play D while giving him the highest (or 2nd if you count Dermott's 8 games) Ozone% starts on the team isn't too much to ask of a "top pairing" dman
- walshyleafsfan

well, when you put it that way...
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 16 @ 8:53 AM ET
Advanced stats say Spezza is very solid.
- RogerRoeper

Exactly. I think you hit the nail on the head there. Can't pinpoint it any better than this.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 16 @ 8:54 AM ET
Hyman in his first game in 7 months got more usage than Matthews. That tells you everything you need to know.

Matthews plays 21 minutes ONCE (Draisaitl is AVG 25 EVERY game this season) Babs says "He playec him way too much" and cuts his TOI by 5 FREAKING minutes the next game to 16,

WTF. How does any of this make sense?


Oh and he had 4 points with 21 minutes...
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Nov 16 @ 8:58 AM ET
I don't know if the injury excuse is enough of a crutch to not fire him for the awful decisions.

If the players simply don't want to play for him anymore, aren't responding to him then no choice but to let him go. They've been behind early all the time. Last year they were alway out front early. It's a big differnce to have early lead vs having to chase the game all night.

- burn


I think Keefe might do well. Marlies seem to play more of a team game and they actually stick the (frank) up for each other. That could just be the players, but they do look a lot different to me.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 16 @ 9:05 AM ET
I think Keefe might do well. Marlies seem to play more of a team game and they actually stick the (frank) up for each other. That could just be the players, but they do look a lot different to me.
- Buck Norris

It's hard to say. There's a possibility that that is on the players. Sheldon was interviewed on Thursday (i believe) and he said that they implement the same system as the Leafs coaches tell the Leafs to do. It's possible that a new face sending the same message could work. Suppose it depends on how Matthews and Marner react to Sheldon having never been coached by him before.

It's a ballsy strategy for Kyle/Shanny to hire a rookie coach on top of a rookie GM.

Fortunately the Leafs can absolutely right some wrongs this offseason. Go get high draft pick (top 10), move Marner for the dman they've needed forever, along with a defensively sound winger, help stabilize a completely moronic salary structure, and for the love of God, get an NHL back up goalie.

All, or at the very least, most, of the Leafs issues can be corrected in one well thought out offseason.
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