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Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
Ppl really thought the Matrix would let the 9ers go to 9-0 while their closest Div rival dropped to 7-3? Easy $ on SEA. 🤑

PS nice kick McLAUGHlin.

- DrChristianTroy



Jimmy G is garbage lol


Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
Without a doubt.

#Strombo!!


- LordHumungous


🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 12 @ 11:34 AM ET
Just transition Ron to his own segment that airs every once in a while, let him run the hometown hockey and whatnot, and start a brand new bit. Going to be hard to replace "Coaches Corner" without the main guy.
- NewYorkNuck


Coaches corner is done ....you can’t keep it going ....they will come up with a new segment now
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
Leivo with Pettersson & Boeser 🤮
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:41 AM ET
I don't think he has anything to apologize for. They, Sportsnet, should've always and only allowed him to speak about hockey in today's fair-weather society, they're just as much to blame for letting an 85 year old man speak his mind for the past several years on topics unrelated to hockey. Of all the controversial things he's said, this was one of the least offensive imo.

Only in Canada do we hold a sports commentator more accountable than our own Prime Minister.

- Pacificgem


Its not "only in Canada", some people are in positions that are harder to remove than others. There are plenty of examples, including in the states with the heads of networks and even the POTUS. As you say, Don's done much worse and his status made it nearly impossible to remove years ago and his power at the network had finally eroded to a point where he was a slip up away from removal
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
- Redmile247

It was embarrassing watchimg Strombo. A really nice guy ( I met him) and knows music and pop culture really well and is a huge hockey fan but he was dreadful as a hockey commentator. Just dreadful.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
Leivo with Pettersson & Boeser 🤮
- DrChristianTroy



Fire Green.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Nov 12 @ 11:48 AM ET
It was embarrassing watchimg Strombo. A really nice guy ( I met him) and knows music and pop culture really well and is a huge hockey fan but he was dreadful as a hockey commentator. Just dreadful.
- Marwood


He was a super fan that was way out of his element... i was embarrassed for him every time he said anything ... he was the ultimate change the channel guy
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:54 AM ET
Its not "only in Canada", some people are in positions that are harder to remove than others. There are plenty of examples, including in the states with the heads of networks and even the POTUS. As you say, Don's done much worse and his status made it nearly impossible to remove years ago and his power at the network had finally eroded to a point where he was a slip up away from removal
- WhiteLie

I'm not sad to see him go, I just don't believe he said anything that isn't necessarily true. I don't see a lot of immigrants, regardless of their origins, wearing a poppy.

To me, my personal opinion, saying "you people" isn't offensive at all. It's an extremely generic statement that could include anyone. Would it have been better to say "immigrants of this country" aren't supporting our veterans and our way of life because they don't purchase or wear poppy's? It's semantics, it means the exact same thing.

In today's world if you don't frame something exactly perfect, you offend someone, it's pathetic. Freedom of speak doesn't exist unless you please a global audience, which is ultimately impossible. We're better off saying nothing at all. Which is sad.


Anyway.....back to hockey!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
He could've maybe lasted the season if he apologized, its disappointing to see him not understand the impact his choice of words had
- WhiteLie



I thought he was over due but it is too bad the way he went down. I think he did deserve better. I don't think he was a racist but I do think he was uneducated.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
Leivo with Pettersson & Boeser 🤮
- DrChristianTroy


The problem with having too many top 6 forwards is the coach will inevitably put guys together that you don’t like.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
I'm not sad to see him go, I just don't believe he said anything that isn't necessarily true. I don't see a lot of immigrants, regardless of their origins, wearing a poppy.

To me, my personal opinion, saying "you people" isn't offensive at all. It's an extremely generic statement that could include anyone. Would it have been better to say "immigrants of this country" aren't supporting our veterans and our way of life because they don't purchase or wear poppy's? It's semantics, it means the exact same thing.

In today's world if you don't frame something exactly perfect, you offend someone, it's pathetic. Freedom of speak doesn't exist unless you please a global audience, which is ultimately impossible. We're better off saying nothing at all. Which is sad.




Anyway.....back to hockey!!

- Pacificgem


I know my wife and most of her friends (Philippino) don't buy poppies . It is not most of their relatives that died for Canada in the war.

The farther we distance ourselves from those dates the harder it becomes to remember. I personally did not buy a poppy, this year first time, because I forgot. I am just as guilty .
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:08 PM ET
I'm not sad to see him go, I just don't believe he said anything that isn't necessarily true. I don't see a lot of immigrants, regardless of their origins, wearing a poppy.

To me, my personal opinion, saying "you people" isn't offensive at all. It's an extremely generic statement that could include anyone. Would it have been better to say "immigrants of this country" aren't supporting our veterans and our way of life because they don't purchase or wear poppy's? It's semantics, it means the exact same thing.

In today's world if you don't frame something exactly perfect, you offend someone, it's pathetic. Freedom of speak doesn't exist unless you please a global audience, which is ultimately impossible. We're better off saying nothing at all. Which is sad.


Anyway.....back to hockey!!

- Pacificgem


whether or not you think what he said was politically correct or not, the fact is, he is probably just wrong (in terms of races and poppies). At the Ceremony in Victoria yesterday, the issue wasn't with different races supporting poppies (because i saw tons of different races wear poppies), it was a lack of attendance by teens/young adults that floored me. I could count more kids under 10 than I could teens or young adults (age 15-30).
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
Its not "only in Canada", some people are in positions that are harder to remove than others. There are plenty of examples, including in the states with the heads of networks and even the POTUS. As you say, Don's done much worse and his status made it nearly impossible to remove years ago and his power at the network had finally eroded to a point where he was a slip up away from removal
- WhiteLie


What do you mean by “some people”







Ps, I think I accidentally just flagged you
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:13 PM ET
Its not "only in Canada", some people are in positions that are harder to remove than others. There are plenty of examples, including in the states with the heads of networks and even the POTUS. As you say, Don's done much worse and his status made it nearly impossible to remove years ago and his power at the network had finally eroded to a point where he was a slip up away from removal
- WhiteLie


As someone with a platform, what Don SHOULD have said, was that he was disappointed with the amount of people overall who were wearing poppies and that he wished more people would go out and buy some in support. Instead, he used remembrance day as a excuse to spark a debate about immigrants assimilating into Canadian culture (completely separate debate that shouldn't have been brought up for remembrance day IMO).
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:14 PM ET
Leivo with Pettersson & Boeser 🤮
- DrChristianTroy


Green is a (frank)ing idiot
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
I'm not sad to see him go, I just don't believe he said anything that isn't necessarily true. I don't see a lot of immigrants, regardless of their origins, wearing a poppy.

To me, my personal opinion, saying "you people" isn't offensive at all. It's an extremely generic statement that could include anyone. Would it have been better to say "immigrants of this country" aren't supporting our veterans and our way of life because they don't purchase or wear poppy's? It's semantics, it means the exact same thing.

In today's world if you don't frame something exactly perfect, you offend someone, it's pathetic. Freedom of speak doesn't exist unless you please a global audience, which is ultimately impossible. We're better off saying nothing at all. Which is sad.


Anyway.....back to hockey!!

- Pacificgem


Singling out minorities and immigrants was the problem. "You people" and "immigrants of this country" are both bad. Lots of Canadian-born people don't wear poppies, especially the younger generations, so why was he only singling out the "others"? And was he only basing this off skin colour?

"You people" might be harmless in certain contexts, and could include different groups, but in this specific case "you people" meant others, immigrants, and the likes. He contextualized his words with "you people that come here", so it wasn't everyone, it was a specific set of people.

If his statement was general about not as many people wearing the poppy – regardless of their point of origin – I think he would have a valid point.

Also, Canada doesn't have an unlimited freedom of speech to begin with – and having a freedom to say something doesn't give you a freedom from repercussions. He's an old man in a changed world.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
Singling out minorities and immigrants was the problem. "You people" and "immigrants of this country" are both bad. Lots of Canadian-born people don't wear poppies, especially the younger generations, so why was he only singling out the "others"? And was he only basing this off skin colour?

"You people" might be harmless in certain contexts, and could include different groups, but in this specific case "you people" meant others, immigrants, and the likes. He contextualized his words with "you people that come here", so it wasn't everyone, it was a specific set of people.

If his statement was general about not as many people wearing the poppy – regardless of their point of origin – I think he would have a valid point.

Also, Canada doesn't have an unlimited freedom of speech to begin with – and having a freedom to say something doesn't give you a freedom from repercussions. He's an old man in a changed world.

- NewYorkNuck


well said

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
The problem with having too many top 6 forwards is the coach will inevitably put guys together that you don’t like.
- 1970vintage

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
I'm not sad to see him go, I just don't believe he said anything that isn't necessarily true. I don't see a lot of immigrants, regardless of their origins, wearing a poppy.

To me, my personal opinion, saying "you people" isn't offensive at all. It's an extremely generic statement that could include anyone. Would it have been better to say "immigrants of this country" aren't supporting our veterans and our way of life because they don't purchase or wear poppy's? It's semantics, it means the exact same thing.

In today's world if you don't frame something exactly perfect, you offend someone, it's pathetic. Freedom of speak doesn't exist unless you please a global audience, which is ultimately impossible. We're better off saying nothing at all. Which is sad.


Anyway.....back to hockey!!

- Pacificgem


Everyone is an immigrant, and he said it loud and clear. I agree, it’s not the worst thing he has said on air, which is in itself the real problem. I disagree with the last part, this isn’t about “freedom of speech”
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
I'm not sad to see him go, I just don't believe he said anything that isn't necessarily true. I don't see a lot of immigrants, regardless of their origins, wearing a poppy.

To me, my personal opinion, saying "you people" isn't offensive at all. It's an extremely generic statement that could include anyone. Would it have been better to say "immigrants of this country" aren't supporting our veterans and our way of life because they don't purchase or wear poppy's? It's semantics, it means the exact same thing.

In today's world if you don't frame something exactly perfect, you offend someone, it's pathetic. Freedom of speak doesn't exist unless you please a global audience, which is ultimately impossible. We're better off saying nothing at all. Which is sad.


Anyway.....back to hockey!!

- Pacificgem


The "you people" was specific to those that come here, which was an assumption made on the looks of people. I am 4th+ generation Canadian who hasn't worn a poppy in years, I should've been the recipient of his rant more so than any other but I'm white.

I don't think its necessarily sad, I do think its a reflection that today's society is higher educated. We are raising the standards that public speakers abide by and aspire to, and when these growing pains pass we'll be better off for it IMO

But yes, hockey time
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
As someone with a platform, what Don SHOULD have said, was that he was disappointed with the amount of people overall who were wearing poppies and that he wished more people would go out and buy some in support. Instead, he used remembrance day as a excuse to spark a debate about immigrants assimilating into Canadian culture (completely separate debate that shouldn't have been brought up for remembrance day IMO).
- Codes1087



I agree people in general are forgetting. They should look at changing the format. Buying a poppy that stays with you for 10 minutes , then go out to a location usually cold and stand there for 2 minutes of silence.

You have to admit it is not a crowd draw.

Before it use to be go pay respect to your father or grandfather now it is be coming go pay respect to your great grandfather.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
As someone with a platform, what Don SHOULD have said, was that he was disappointed with the amount of people overall who were wearing poppies and that he wished more people would go out and buy some in support. Instead, he used remembrance day as a excuse to spark a debate about immigrants assimilating into Canadian culture (completely separate debate that shouldn't have been brought up for remembrance day IMO).
- Codes1087


+1

It's easy to blame a minority for a complex issue. Not as many young people wear them in general... also because war has changed. Remembering the world wars is one thing and easier for people closer to those times, but wars now are proxy wars and fights for resources so it's a more tangled subject overall.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 12 @ 12:21 PM ET
I agree people in general are forgetting. They should look at changing the format. Buying a poppy that stays with you for 10 minutes , then go out to a location usually cold and stand there for 2 minutes of silence.

You have to admit it is not a crowd draw.

Before it use to be go pay respect to your father or grandfather now it is be coming go pay respect to your great grandfather.

- VANTEL


I personally think it's more or less an problem with age groups rather than ethnicities. As someone who attends both the pride parades and remembrance day, its age group reversed. Pride parade is primarily say 15-35 and remembrance day is kids upto 10, adults from 35-90 (rough numbers obviously).

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 12 @ 12:22 PM ET
Singling out minorities and immigrants was the problem. "You people" and "immigrants of this country" are both bad. Lots of Canadian-born people don't wear poppies, especially the younger generations, so why was he only singling out the "others"? And was he only basing this off skin colour?

"You people" might be harmless in certain contexts, and could include different groups, but in this specific case "you people" meant others, immigrants, and the likes. He contextualized his words with "you people that come here", so it wasn't everyone, it was a specific set of people.

If his statement was general about not as many people wearing the poppy – regardless of their point of origin – I think he would have a valid point.

Also, Canada doesn't have an unlimited freedom of speech to begin with – and having a freedom to say something doesn't give you a freedom from repercussions. He's an old man in a changed world.

- NewYorkNuck

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