i think you may have received a bit* of brain damage from all the chemicals you've huffed in that there valley of yours

*i was just being nice there, it's actually quite a lot more than a bit
- daeth

Brilliant, poetic, & spoken with so much thought. I'm guessing insults are all your brain cells could muster. If you think long & hard enough something intelligent & insightful might come out of your richard receptacle. I was actually being nice there.

Show me where the government prevented his right to free speech? Or do you just not understand freedom of speech? I'll wait.
- FoxMulder

You're obviously ignorant to whats happening in this country.

You're obviously ignorant to whats happening in this country.
- LakesideBlues

Again, show me where the government restricted his free speech. It's a simple question.

A right to freedom of speech does not entitle someone a right to a platform that enables their speech to reach millions.

A job on a sports station does not mean someone can spout whatever they want "cuz freedom of speech!!!".

Don Cherry has every right to say what he wants. He's welcome to stand on whatever street corner he wants to and continue to say the things he does. That's a right of his that is protected.
- prock

If it's ok for Kaepernick.....
or is that somehow different ?

[quote=FoxMulder]
Our government owns the media. A little research on your part would tell you that.
I'll wait.

[quote=LakesideBlues]

The Canadian government owns Rogers Media?

If it's ok for Kaepernick.....
or is that somehow different ?
- LakesideBlues

If whatever team employed Kaepernick wanted to fire him (although, not the same thing, he has a player contract), for misrepresenting their organziation, then yes, they could have. It's their CHOICE. They chose not to. They can also choose to offer contracts to someone else next time round.

Again, freedom of speech does not extend to protecting someone's job, when someone is making political statements, especially while on the job. It doesn't work that way.

don Cherry is fully entitled to go down to a street corner in Kingston, and start yelling out "you people should be thankful for our milk and honey and buy a poppy". That's his right. That's freedom of speech. It does not entitle him to spout off on a broadcast and protect his job. Hell, Sportsnet can fire people for saying just about anything. People HAVE been fired for saying nothing offensive.... just for being boring and losing ratings. What Don Cherry is saying can hurt Sportsnet's image and ratings. Why on earth wouldn't they have the right to fire him?

[quote=FoxMulder]
I don't know, does Xi Jinping actually own all the media in China ?
I'm guessing he doesn't.
Do some research. At least then you'll be educated on the subject. Continuing and accepting ignorance can be considered voluntary stupidity if you hold on to it long enough.

ridiculous verbal vomit
- LakesideBlues

You're making no sense at all.

Rogers Media is a subsidiary of Rogers Communications. It is not owned by the Canadian government. Do you wear a tin foil hat all the time or only when it's cold?

If whatever team employed Kaepernick wanted to fire him (although, not the same thing, he has a player contract), for misrepresenting their organziation, then yes, they could have. It's their CHOICE. They chose not to. They can also choose to offer contracts to someone else next time round.

Again, freedom of speech does not extend to protecting someone's job, when someone is making political statements, especially while on the job. It doesn't work that way.

don Cherry is fully entitled to go down to a street corner in Kingston, and start yelling out "you people should be thankful for our milk and honey and buy a poppy". That's his right. That's freedom of speech. It does not entitle him to spout off on a broadcast and protect his job. Hell, Sportsnet can fire people for saying just about anything. People HAVE been fired for saying nothing offensive.... just for being boring and losing ratings. What Don Cherry is saying can hurt Sportsnet's image and ratings. Why on earth wouldn't they have the right to fire him?
- prock

I don't remember saying they had no right to fire him. Did i say that ?
Of course he's allowed to make political statements on air that reflect his bosses beliefs and/or appeals to whoever needs appeasing at the time. I guess that day remembering & honoring our veterans wasn't on the bosses to do list. It's a judgement call made by his boss, a real poopty one that doesn't reflect traditional Canadian values. Don Cherry spoke the truth & said nothing wrong.
Sportsnets ratings & rep will be far worse off by caving to PC snowflake BS than if they stood by him & his right to convey what every patriotic Canadian believes to be true. If you call yourself Canadian, buy a poppy for a dollar & show some respect. It's like standing for the national anthem, if you're able, you do it.

Rogers Media is a subsidiary of Rogers Communications. It is not owned by the Canadian government. Do you wear a tin foil hat all the time or only when it's cold?
- FoxMulder

Hanging on to that ignorance i see.

yowzers. I'm done here. At least with one poster.

One less snowflake.

I don't remember saying they had no right to fire him. Did i say that ?
Of course he's allowed to make political statements on air that reflect his bosses beliefs and/or appeals to whoever needs appeasing at the time. I guess that day remembering & honoring our veterans wasn't on the bosses to do list. It's a judgement call made by his boss, a real poopty one that doesn't reflect traditional Canadian values. Don Cherry spoke the truth & said nothing wrong.
Sportsnets ratings & rep will be far worse off by caving to PC snowflake BS than if they stood by him & his right to convey what every patriotic Canadian believes to be true. If you call yourself Canadian, buy a poppy for a dollar & show some respect. It's like standing for the national anthem, if you're able, you do it.
- LakesideBlues

If you understand they have the right to fire him, why did you cite Don Cherry's right to freedom of speech. It has absolutely no relevance here. It has not been infrigned upon.

Hanging on to that ignorance i see.
- LakesideBlues

You keep saying that but providing no evidence.

If you understand they have the right to fire him, why did you cite Don Cherry's right to freedom of speech. It has absolutely no relevance here. It has not been infrigned upon.
- prock

The majority of voting Canadians (that he misrepresents) are the ones paying Justin Trudeau's way. Are they not his employer ?
Hopefully Cherry can find some backdoor, unethical corrupt legal loophole to keep his job just like sock boy did. Then the snowflakes would be falling.
Just because Trudeau has a legal right to govern Canada doesn't mean he should, & just because Sportsnet had a legal right to fire Cherry doesn't mean they didn't infringe on his right to free speech. Free speech is an ethical ideology, not a legal arrangement, & it has everything to do with it.

The majority of voting Canadians (that he misrepresents) are the ones paying Justin Trudeau's way. Are they not his employer ?
Hopefully Cherry can find some backdoor, unethical corrupt legal loophole to keep his job just like sock boy did. Then the snowflakes would be falling.
Just because Trudeau has a legal right to govern Canada doesn't mean he should, & just because Sportsnet had a legal right to fire Cherry doesn't mean they didn't infringe on his right to free speech. Free speech is an ethical ideology, not a legal arrangement, & it has everything to do with it.
- LakesideBlues

Yes the Canadian public is trudeaus boss. Its quite clear they decided not to fire him. Isnt that blatantly obvious?

Actually, it does mean that sportsnet didnt infringe on his right (its actually called freedom 9f expression in canada). Sportsnet is not a public forum, he has zero right to say what he wants while broadcasting. End of story. It is not a right.

Youre in way over your head. Youre trying to profess on things you clearly dont understand.

The majority of voting Canadians (that he misrepresents) are the ones paying Justin Trudeau's way. Are they not his employer ?
Hopefully Cherry can find some backdoor, unethical corrupt legal loophole to keep his job just like sock boy did. Then the snowflakes would be falling.
Just because Trudeau has a legal right to govern Canada doesn't mean he should, & just because Sportsnet had a legal right to fire Cherry doesn't mean they didn't infringe on his right to free speech. Free speech is an ethical ideology, not a legal arrangement, & it has everything to do with it.
- LakesideBlues

What?

Where did you read in the rights to free speech that a private entity was obliged to provide you with a platform?

We're talking about an 85 year old man that was fired for saying something insensitive, likely because it was more popular than not renewing his bloated contract.