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pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 11 @ 10:46 AM ET
When you guys said the penalties were the reason for keeping Dach on the bench, did you mean that the coach was probably worried that the kid would be targeted? Or, that Dach would get called for penalties?

Sorry, didn't make sense to me.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Nov 11 @ 10:48 AM ET
When you guys said the penalties were the reason for keeping Dach on the bench, did you mean that the coach was probably worried that the kid would be targeted? Or, that Dach would get called for penalties?

Sorry, didn't make sense to me.

- pdx2ord


Dach does not play on the PK, so his time suffers when the Hawks have to kill penalties.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Nov 11 @ 10:48 AM ET
Dach does not play on the PK, so his time suffers when the Hawks have to kill penalties.
- ChicagoHope


Ahhhhh

to me
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Nov 11 @ 10:50 AM ET
Ahhhhh

to me

- pdx2ord


No biggie, I thought he might have been injured, but the Hawks were shorthanded so much the second half of the game. Unfortunately, that means #77 sits a lot.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 11 @ 10:51 AM ET
Dach does not play on the PK, so his time suffers when the Hawks have to kill penalties.
- ChicagoHope


And also after a penalty, they put Kane's line on the ice, so Dach's rotation gets skipped.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 11 @ 10:53 AM ET
When you guys said the penalties were the reason for keeping Dach on the bench, did you mean that the coach was probably worried that the kid would be targeted? Or, that Dach would get called for penalties?

Sorry, didn't make sense to me.

- pdx2ord


There was 12+ minutes of pp/pk time. Dach doesn't play on either, so there's only 47 minutes of 5x5 play available. And the big dogs get fed 1st. Also, end of game is treated like a pk with a shrinking lead.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
Ahhhhh

to me

- pdx2ord


Hey, you had the guts to ask! You bring good stuff to this board.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Nov 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
Did Dach get hurt? I saw he only played a little over 7 and a half minutes.
- ChicagoHope


After Dach's early goal, Stan is worried he might have to pay out performance bonuses for the kid, so he call down to JC to limit his ice time. (sarcasm)
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Nov 11 @ 11:00 AM ET
i didn't understand at the end of the game the leafs had a PP and brought the extra attacker on for what seemed like 30-45 seconds...but that extra attacker was 6 on 5

wouldn't it have been better to just give up the puck and have that extra time and play 6 on 4 against the hawks - better odds to score

am i wrong in my thinking?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 11 @ 11:01 AM ET
Question to the Board, during the game, does the head coach make the line calls/defense calls as to who is on the ice? Or is the strategy discussed before hand and it is up to the Asst. coaches handling the forwards and the defense making the calls?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 11 @ 11:02 AM ET
i didn't understand at the end of the game the leafs had a PP and brought the extra attacker on for what seemed like 30-45 seconds...but that extra attacker was 6 on 5

wouldn't it have been better to just give up the puck and have that extra time and play 6 on 4 against the hawks - better odds to score

am i wrong in my thinking?

- glennjpawlak22[/quote

Yes, had the NHL feed which were the Toronto announcers, and they said the same thing.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Nov 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
[quote=glennjpawlak22]i didn't understand at the end of the game the leafs had a PP and brought the extra attacker on for what seemed like 30-45 seconds...but that extra attacker was 6 on 5

wouldn't it have been better to just give up the puck and have that extra time and play 6 on 4 against the hawks - better odds to score

am i wrong in my thinking?

- LAHawk[/quote

Yes, had the NHL feed which were the Toronto announcers, and they said the same thing.


how was that feed? i was watching Pat/Edzo clown show
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 11 @ 11:10 AM ET
Yes, this. Gus wasn't the only one who had chances to clear the puck before Toronto scored the 2nd goal but he was the last one to fumble the puck away before they scored. He also took a penalty shortly after that that led to their 3rd goal. The ironic thing is that he was playing pretty good in the d-zone (for him) before that and then - BOOM - he spits the bit. "Trust" is such a big thing for a coach to have with a player - I can't see how Colliton can have any trust in Gustafsson.
- EbonyRaptor


Eb, just like guys like Letang, Karlsson, Ristolainen, Barrie maybe Shattenkirk, Gus is weak in his end and plays D best by having the puck in the Ozone creating chances. Last yr at 5 on 5 Gus was on the ice for 73 GF and 67 GA. This yr he’s on the ice for 15 GF and 9 GA. As ugly as it looks sometimes, same for a Karlsson or Letang, Gus gives the Hawks more goals than he allows. And like these types, at least last yr, Gus was the point man of an above average PP.

Now dig deeper into the fancies and you'll see chinks but the bottom line is Gus, and Letang types, is on the ice for more GF than GA .
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Nov 11 @ 11:10 AM ET
There was 12+ minutes of pp/pk time. Dach doesn't play on either, so there's only 47 minutes of 5x5 play available. And the big dogs get fed 1st. Also, end of game is treated like a pk with a shrinking lead.
- mohel


Dach is still getting his feet wet in a league where many players are as (or more) big and strong as he is. When I concentrate on watching him, he doesn't look lost, but he is definitely not as defensively aware in his zone. He is getting pushed around a bit and is still learning what he can and cannot get away with. They will (and should) continue to monitor his TOI so that he both progresses and is not a liability.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 11 @ 11:13 AM ET
The Blackhawks have signed Regula to a 3 year ELC.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Nov 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
i didn't understand at the end of the game the leafs had a PP and brought the extra attacker on for what seemed like 30-45 seconds...but that extra attacker was 6 on 5

wouldn't it have been better to just give up the puck and have that extra time and play 6 on 4 against the hawks - better odds to score

am i wrong in my thinking?

- glennjpawlak22


I agreed with you. They did a significant amount of time at 6×5, when it could've been 6×4.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
i didn't understand at the end of the game the leafs had a PP and brought the extra attacker on for what seemed like 30-45 seconds...but that extra attacker was 6 on 5

wouldn't it have been better to just give up the puck and have that extra time and play 6 on 4 against the hawks - better odds to score

am i wrong in my thinking?

- glennjpawlak22


i actually was surprised about that also...given they were out of the zone and had to recapture it...just give up the puck and get extra time 6 on 4...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
The Blackhawks have signed Regula to a 3 year ELC.
- DarthKane



allright...bring him up and bench gus...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Nov 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
Eb, just like guys like Letang, Karlsson, Ristolainen, Barrie maybe Shattenkirk, Gus is weak in his end and plays D best by having the puck in the Ozone creating chances. Last yr at 5 on 5 Gus was on the ice for 73 GF and 67 GA. This yr he’s on the ice for 15 GF and 9 GA. As ugly as it looks sometimes, same for a Karlsson or Letang, Gus gives the Hawks more goals than he allows. And like these types, at least last yr, Gus was the point man of an above average PP.

Now dig deeper into the fancies and you'll see chinks but the bottom line is Gus, and Letang types, is on the ice for more GF than GA .

- Mr Ricochet


hmmm..interesting...but what his lapses that cause lost ozone time and more dzone time...tough to measure..

but gus is not the letang or karlsson caliber...although karlsson is more of mess defensively the last few year and the sharks are stuck with him and the rest of 30 million old and soon to be done back end...
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Nov 11 @ 11:24 AM ET
The Blackhawks have signed Regula to a 3 year ELC.
- DarthKane


Quite a nice haul for Perlini. Big D-men that can skate. Would look nice with Boqvist in a few years.

The young D continue to develop the backend and this team could be really good in 2 years.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Nov 11 @ 11:27 AM ET
From John Dietz:

The Blackhawks have allowed 45 or more shots on goal 9 times since Jeremy Colliton took over. And three times in the last 7 games.

From 2013-18 - a span of 492 games - that happened just five times.

- scottak

Leafs had close to 45 shots 2nd and 3rd periods alone.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
hmmm..interesting...but what his lapses that cause lost ozone time and more dzone time...tough to measure..

but gus is not the letang or karlsson caliber...although karlsson is more of mess defensively the last few year and the sharks are stuck with him and the rest of 30 million old and soon to be done back end...

- bogiedoc


And the fancies show Gus is on the ice for more high danger chances against than for. So there's that and speaks to your question/point. The last 3 yrs he's a +50 Corsi and his replacement is worse than when he's on the ice. This yr he's a 48% Corsi. When he's on the ice the Hawks take more shots than the opponent but the opponent gets more high danger shots........

No doubt he's flawed but with his offensive abilities if he was average in his end he'd be making 7-8-9 mil per.

One thing is sure with legit NHL Dmen De haan and Maatta replacing Dahlstrom, Forsling, Davidson, Manning types the Hawks can better deal with a guy like Gus', or even Bovquist's, trade off of offense for defense.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Nov 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
Is the coach part to blame? Sure, but it’s also not like the team resembles anything close to what it did for at least three of those years.
- HawkintheD

Hossa and Sharp would agree with you.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Nov 11 @ 11:34 AM ET
These next 2 games are HUGE. Getting very close to that 20 game mark.

Vegas and Nashville 2 very solid opponents, both on the road.

If we continue to improve and win these games, or at least win one and play well in both, I will like our chances moving forward at getting into the playoff picture(especially with a lot of home games coming up).

But if we regress again and the Knights and Preds skate circles around us....then that’s a wrap. Time to clean house and start tanking. At least in my opinion.

So it’s now or never, what’s it gonna be? Will we continue the positive trends...or go back to giving up unfathomable amounts of high danger chances while looking inept offensively?

- SimpleJack

Yeah, not in their league if it happens again. Where's Bollig or Eager to take a few runs at Pecker Rinner after his comments last game...
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
The Blackhawks have signed Regula to a 3 year ELC.
- DarthKane


Played for the Steel for a yr. Fine skater, good size, skilled feet and hands, not soft, head up. Always was a fan. Played with Boqvist at London last yr. https://www.eliteprospect...player/283940/alec-regula.......

McCoshen who they just picked up from FLA is similar but a tad more skilled/offensive minded and also played USHL. McCoshen played for the US in the WJC as a 19 and 20 yr old which speaks to how he's seen by those who matter. https://www.eliteprospect...player/90302/ian-mccoshen

Very much like having these types in the pipeline if for nothing else depth. May not end up NHLers but not unreasonable to think they will.
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