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munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
But that’s what I’m saying. The recent immigrants don’t follow the tradition yet and Don is upset over it.

Is it fair to expect the same degree of understanding of Canadian history from recent immigrants? Probably not. It’s probably wrong for Don to expect people to understand the meaning of the Remembrance Day the moment they land in Canada, but if he meant, “be more respectful of Canadian history and try to assimilate “, I can understand where he is coming from. bacause, trust me, many recent immigrants have no interest in assimilation; it is a fact. However if they want to get ahead in Canada, they can’t stay that way forever, so most people (or 2nd generation at least) come around after a while. Don sees people before they realize it’s to their own advantage to assimilate and gets frustrated because he feels they don’t respect the country they’ve moved to (yet), it’s entirely ok. His actual wording, left a lot to be desired but that’s don.

- gamerdoc


Thats also to assume that people come from areas that dont have conflict themselves...To wear a poppy is symbolic to remembrance.... some of these people might want to forget. Be happy with the people that do wear the poppy, and the stories they share with new Canadians etc should be how the tradition is passed. Not forced remembrance.

TBH im done with the poppy.... its a never ending justification for war and propaganda. Ive lost friends in Afghanistan, i had gramps in ww2 and great uncles in ww1... both the wars to end all wars until rich nations realized what kind of profits can be made with conflict. WW1 and WW2 you had to go....it trully was a war on freedom.... people that join the army today is by choice and no, it is not to fight for our freedoms.... far from it.

aslo assimilation in canada is silly to say. Canada, is what? We have the benefit to be made up of many different walks of life. Dons old tired white privilege narratives are tired. he is stuck on this idea Canada is a white christian nation and any people other then that mold are not true parts of the make up of "Canadian identity"

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
There are plenty of young people that don't want to be 'global citizens'.
- aminnes


Younger people are more open to change. It is the product of their times.

And everyone doesn't have to be okay with change, the majority of people have to.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
I thought as society we moved beyond all the tribalism/nationalism stuff..

It’s divisive. Most bumhole Canadians I know are established white people

That’s what old ppl/boomers do, it’s what they’ve always done. Casual racism and maintain the status-quo. People don’t like change because they’re most comfortable with how things are. But young people will always want change, it all depends on who holds the balance of power, and boomers are in a very peculiar situation..

- Arctic_AARDVARK



you're doing exactly the same thing - generalizing "old ppl/boomers"... yup 'cause they are all exactly the same...

there's plenty of ignorant wieners in every generation / age range - from old guys "yelling at kids on their lawns" thru generation XYZ "who refuse to be labelled" and who learn how to spell outrage before they learn how to spell logic.

its hilarious
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
Canada wants to be diverse.

We want people to feel comfortable in participating in their cultures.

It goes too far sometimes but it will never be perfect.

- Santo_44


My view is that if you don't want to adapt to the culture of your receiving country, you better not come to that country.
That includes in particular learning the new language asap, and leaving your own country's religion and traditions behind - and change them for the receiving country's ones..
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
So Don Cherry isn't racist because he has a black friend?
- Scabeh

Richard Spencer has many black friends. It's why he, as a racist, wants to enslave them!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 11 @ 2:32 PM ET
Richard Spencer has many black friends. It's why he, as a racist, wants to enslave them!
- AdamFrench


Gotta appreciate a man who likes to keep his friends close!
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 2:32 PM ET
My view is that if you don't want to adapt to the culture of your receiving country, you better not come to that country.
That includes in particular learning the new language asap, and leaving your own country's religion and traditions behind - and change them for the receiving country's ones..

- MaximusAurelius


Sorry to break it to you but this is the exact opposite message that Canada is trying to get across
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 11 @ 2:32 PM ET
It sorta is..

Folks 55+ grew up with a different philosophy.. fwiw I not putting the blame squarely on them, and all this racism stuff takes a back seat to climate change deniers..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Canada was always renowned for not being racist. You realize it was Boomers who legalized the current immigration policy right? The migrants living in hotels not withstanding.

Racist Canada started with Trudeau expanding to meet UN demanded migration rates and then calling anyone who questioned that policy a racist. Obama did the exact same thing. It was used for political cover.

KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Nov 11 @ 2:33 PM ET
I saw Campbell in previous seasons as well, including some AHL games (recaps). WC as well.
He's just very meh.
I agree he's better than Hutch - but Leafs actually need a guy that can play more than 20 games.

- MaximusAurelius

He played 37 games last year 25 wins on a kings team who couldn’t win anything.

Also kings goalie coaches are masters at rejuvenating a goalie i.e. kuemper. 😬

Again, I’m in no rush to trade him I just figured TOR desperately needs a better back up and could be a trade option.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
He played 37 games last year 25 wins on a kings team who couldn’t win anything.

Also kings goalie coaches are masters at rejuvenating a goalie i.e. kuemper. 😬

Again, I’m in no rush to trade him I just figured TOR desperately needs a better back up and could be a trade option.

- KINGS67



I don't know.. Come to think of it, you fooled the poop out of us with all that Jonathan Bernier talk..
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
Younger people are more open to change. It is the product of their times.

And everyone doesn't have to be okay with change, the majority of people have to.

- Santo_44


I don't think that's ay more quantifiable than stating that older generations are less apt to change. You guy need to understand it was Boomers who wrote all the diversity into law. Yes. Old white men legislated more diversity into Canada.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Nov 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
This is true.

Signed for 2 years after this one. I’d definitely say it’s an option. It’s fine either way by me though, traded or not. I just want to see Petersen up and stay up.

- KINGS67


I'd gladly take Campbell as a backup.

He's a better option than any other goalie that would be available.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
Canada was always renowned for not being racist. You realize it was Boomers who legalized the current immigration policy right? The migrants living in hotels not withstanding.

Racist Canada started with Trudeau expanding to meet UN demanded migration rates and then calling anyone who questioned that policy a racist. Obama did the exact same thing. It was used for political cover.

- aminnes

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
he simply should have said - that all Canadians and all people who want to be Canadian should learn about Canada's history, its traditions and why certain holidays exist - what they commemorate. Remember Day exists for a reason - find out about it. Support the veterans and the memory of veterans passed.
- BorjeFan4Ever


I concur with the wording he used should of been better.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
I don't think that's ay more quantifiable than stating that older generations are less apt to change. You guy need to understand it was Boomers who wrote all the diversity into law. Yes. Old white men legislated more diversity into Canada.
- aminnes


Cool

They made a good decision.

What is happening now?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
Younger people are more open to change. It is the product of their times.

And everyone doesn't have to be okay with change, the majority of people have to.

- Santo_44



changing from an iPhone 6 to iPhone X ... isn't changing

changing from playstation to XBox ... isn't changing

changing from a car that doesn't have a back-up-camera to one that does - isn't changing.

changing from non-shaped skis to shaped skis - is a good thing - but it ain't changing.

I get it... recycling... we've changed, cause we separate paper and plastic now.

moving out of your parents home or "off their payroll" is changing... moving back in again isn't changing.

change implies that you know that something you did or are doing could be replaced/altered to be done differently.... which means you actually have to have done something previously...

what have the millenials changed? and won't even bother asking about the GenXYZs...


I can't want (insert sarcasm detector here) for this one















Ok boomer
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 11 @ 2:38 PM ET
changing from an iPhone 6 to iPhone X ... isn't changing

changing from playstation to XBox ... isn't changing

changing from a car that doesn't have a back-up-camera to one that does - isn't changing.

changing from non-shaped skis to shaped skis - is a good thing - but it ain't changing.

I get it... recycling... we've changed, cause we separate paper and plastic now.

moving out of your parents home or "off their payroll" is changing... moving back in again isn't changing.

change implies that you know that something you did or are doing could be replaced/altered to be done differently.... which means you actually have to have done something previously...

what have the millenials changed? and won't even bother asking about the GenXYZs...


I can't want (insert sarcasm detector here) for this one















Ok boomer

- BorjeFan4Ever


Steve Jobs was a Boomer.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Nov 11 @ 2:40 PM ET
I don't know.. Come to think of it, you fooled the poop out of us with all that Jonathan Bernier talk..
- PatC80

Yeah I’m still surprised he became a huge bust. Quick ended up being better, it happens.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 11 @ 2:40 PM ET
I concur with the wording he used should of been better.
- zazzle


Toronto Sun‏Verified account @TheTorontoSun · 8m8 minutes ago


Toronto Sun Retweeted Joe Warmington

BREAKING.... Don Cherry has been fired by Sportsnet. Follow @joe_warmington for details

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 11 @ 2:41 PM ET
Yeah I’m still surprised he became a huge bust.

It happens.

- KINGS67

KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Nov 11 @ 2:41 PM ET

- PatC80

Thank god LA had Quick
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 11 @ 2:43 PM ET
Toronto Sun‏Verified account @TheTorontoSun · 8m8 minutes ago


Toronto Sun Retweeted Joe Warmington

BREAKING.... Don Cherry has been fired by Sportsnet. Follow @joe_warmington for details

- PatC80


No way?

Of all the idiotic things Cherry said, THIS is the one that gets him fired?

joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
I concur with the wording he used should of been better.
- zazzle


You guys are missing the point. Its not about wording or the opinion. It's about the platform.

Coaches corner is a segment for hockey fans and freaking kids. Leave the PC topics flat out of it. Half of us that are adults only stick around for these intermission shows because it's one of the few places on earth you're not going to be subjected to pissant political discussions anymore.

More hockey less immigrants please.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 11 @ 2:44 PM ET
changing from an iPhone 6 to iPhone X ... isn't changing

changing from playstation to XBox ... isn't changing

changing from a car that doesn't have a back-up-camera to one that does - isn't changing.

changing from non-shaped skis to shaped skis - is a good thing - but it ain't changing.

I get it... recycling... we've changed, cause we separate paper and plastic now.

moving out of your parents home or "off their payroll" is changing... moving back in again isn't changing.

change implies that you know that something you did or are doing could be replaced/altered to be done differently.... which means you actually have to have done something previously...

what have the millenials changed? and won't even bother asking about the GenXYZs...


I can't want (insert sarcasm detector here) for this one















Ok boomer

- BorjeFan4Ever



phew ... miss this by a couple of years.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 11 @ 2:45 PM ET
It sorta is..

Folks 55+ grew up with a different philosophy.. fwiw I not putting the blame squarely on them, and all this racism stuff takes a back seat to climate change deniers..

- Arctic_AARDVARK



racism is not a generational issue.

looking only at the US... who are most of the Skinheads and NeoNazi's you see on TV? are they 50+ year olds... or are they 20-30?

what do think the drug gangs are filled with... young guys, white, black brown... whatever... follow the intellectual area where's the most anger and frustration... usually young men... accompanies the greatest degree of stupidity and immaturity.

hint: it ain't old guys.

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