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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 1:26 PM ET
Boston has been looking to get an upgrade over Krug for a couple years now on their 2nd pairing. Myers came here as a proven #4 guy.

If the Canucks want to go anywhere they need two definite top pairing defenders.

- manvanfan


Boston want to get rid of Krug because they have younger cheaper guys. He puts up points . He can play tough. They rely on him to run the PP.

I think the fans brought in Myers as a number 4 , Benning has him playing top line with Edler. I really don't think JB spent 6 mil a year for him to be a number 4
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 1:27 PM ET
Ah yes, the Sedin argument
- NorthNuck

My Beagle will do a flying lassie catch for popcorn but when it comes to cheeses he just lets them hit the floor and then devours them.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 10 @ 1:29 PM ET
Boston want to get rid of Krug because they have younger cheaper guys. He puts up points . He can play tough. They rely on him to run the PP.

I think the fans brought in Myers as a number 4 , Benning has him playing top line with Edler. I really don't think JB spent 6 mil a year for him to be a number 4

- VANTEL

Another way of looking at it is that the only way JB could upgrade the D corps through free agency was by overpaying a middle pairing Dman and now he is being played on the top pairing to justify said overpayment.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 1:29 PM ET
Ah yes, the Sedin argument
- NorthNuck



Take away his 6 mil a year and stop expecting him to be the go to guy and I would take him back if he continued to play this way. Pay him as an elite third pairing D . Actually 3 mil would be more appropriate.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
Take away his 6 mil a year and stop expecting him to be the go to guy and I would take him back if he continued to play this way. Pay him as an elite third pairing D . Actually 3 mil would be more appropriate.
- VANTEL

I'm just teasing, I actually agree in a lesser role at a lower cap hit he would still be fine
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
Another way of looking at it is that the only way JB could upgrade the D corps through free agency was by overpaying a middle pairing Dman and now he is being played on the top pairing to justify said overpayment.
- NorthNuck


So we are going with the flat earth theory. I like it
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
Boston want to get rid of Krug because they have younger cheaper guys. He puts up points . He can play tough. They rely on him to run the PP.

I think the fans brought in Myers as a number 4 , Benning has him playing top line with Edler. I really don't think JB spent 6 mil a year for him to be a number 4

- VANTEL
they play Matt Grezlyk on there 3rd pairing. Ain't no one younger waiting to take Krug's spot.

Vaakanainen has 2 points in 16 games and is a minus 1
Zboril has played 2 NHL games.

Myers proved on a much better team in Winnipeg they weren't going to win with his as the first pairing defender.

Benning sure did spend $6 M on a number 4 because that's what a true number 4 costs now a days.

I don't need to hear the speech about better younger cheaper from you. We have all been through it before and saw the cheap guys come in and after that season never even make it back to the NHL. Hello Frankie Corrado.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 1:42 PM ET
they play Matt Grezlyk on there 3rd pairing. Ain't no one younger waiting to take Krug's spot.

Vaakanainen has 2 points in 16 games and is a minus 1
Zboril has played 2 NHL games.

Myers proved on a much better team in Winnipeg they weren't going to win with his as the first pairing defender.

Benning sure did spend $6 M on a number 4 because that's what a true number 4 costs now a days.

I don't need to hear the speech about better younger cheaper from you. We have all been through it before and saw the cheap guys come in and after that season never even make it back to the NHL. Hello Frankie Corrado.

- manvanfan


McAvoy Carlo Younger Cheaper . Zaboril ready to step in . Lets see if the Bruins pay Krug 7 mil plus .
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 10 @ 1:47 PM ET
I really don't know where I stand on Marky and Tanev. I do know where I stand on Stecher and Schaller. I think some of the growth from the prospects we are ready to move on.

Believe it or not the only UFA I haven't seen a replacement for already in our system is Schaller I would look to other sources for that.

- VANTEL

On Marky I'm still not totally convinced he's gonna be a true #1. Demko has progressed good enough really to maybe not worrying about Markstrom's next contract as it will be big if he ends up putting up solid number this year regardless or PO's or not.

You know my position on Tanev-Edler I want them gone. They neither make our team worse or better at this point and I get the Edler Minute-Muncher argument...but at this point it's redundant. We have D men in Utica ready to try in the 5-6 slot IMO. Hughes-Myers-Benn and yes, Stecher would be fine and slot in guys from Utica that have earned it in the 5-6-7 spots.

Schaller to me is a bit like Pearson. Maybe being used improperly by Green? Tough one here and everyone wants Baertchi in the line up but he has been in Utica all year playing a slower game. It will take him two weeks or more of good TOI to get to NHL shape. Gotta think about those things.

I'm ok with Stecher in the 5-6 slot and filling in when needed in the 3-4 slot.

I appreciate what Edler Tanev have done here but man it's time to move on for this club to take that leap IMO.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 1:47 PM ET
McAvoy Carlo Younger Cheaper . Zaboril ready to step in . Lets see if the Bruins pay Krug 7 mil plus .
- VANTEL

Right side defender, another right side defender.

Boston doesn't want to pay Krug 7 million because they have better defenders that they need to pay, they also haven't got rid of him because they don't have anyone to replace him.

Somehow though he's going to play top pairing on the Canucks?

Why would Van want to pay 7 million a year to a defender that another team doesn't want to pay 7 million a year?

IF he was actually worth it 7 million a season and worth it pay up like Nashville did with Josi
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 1:49 PM ET
On Marky I'm still not totally convinced he's gonna be a true #1. Demko has progressed good enough really to maybe not worrying about Markstrom's next contract as it will be big if he ends up putting up solid number this year regardless or PO's or not.

You know my position on Tanev-Edler I want them gone. They neither make our team worse or better at this point and I get the Edler Minute-Muncher argument...but at this point it's redundant. We have D men in Utica ready to try in the 5-6 slot IMO. Hughes-Myers-Benn and yes, Stecher would be fine and slot in guys from Utica that have earned it in the 5-6-7 spots.

Schaller to me is a bit like Pearson. Maybe being used improperly by Green? Tough one here and everyone wants Baertchi in the line up but he has been in Utica all year playing a slower game. It will take him two weeks or more of good TOI to get to NHL shape. Gotta think about those things.

I'm ok with Stecher in the 5-6 slot and filling in when needed in the 3-4 slot.

I appreciate what Edler Tanev have done here but man it's time to move on for this club to take that leap IMO.

- LordHumungous

Edler and Tanev make the team better but not good enough to win anything in this league. Time to trade all 3 of them for draft picks and start drafting a lot of top end defensemen and hope a few come along sooner rather than later.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 1:50 PM ET
Dan Murphy
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Gaudette replaces Eriksson in #canucks line-up. Markstrom starts.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 10 @ 1:50 PM ET
3-2 Canucks.

Score predictions after 17 games:
LordH 5
Northy 2
NewYorkNuck 1
Everyone else 0

- NorthNuck


Whoa whoa whoa there Northy since I predict every game at a loss I went ahead and fixed that for ya.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 10 @ 1:51 PM ET
Right side defender, another right side defender.

Boston doesn't want to pay Krug 7 million because they have better defenders that they need to pay, they also haven't got rid of him because they don't have anyone to replace him.

Somehow though he's going to play top pairing on the Canucks?

Why would Van want to pay 7 million a year to a defender that another team doesn't want to pay 7 million a year?

IF he was actually worth it 7 million a season and worth it pay up like Nashville did with Josi

- manvanfan


You know that's what they do right?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 1:54 PM ET
Right side defender, another right side defender.

Boston doesn't want to pay Krug 7 million because they have better defenders that they need to pay, they also haven't got rid of him because they don't have anyone to replace him.

Somehow though he's going to play top pairing on the Canucks?

Why would Van want to pay 7 million a year to a defender that another team doesn't want to pay 7 million a year?

IF he was actually worth it 7 million a season and worth it pay up like Nashville did with Josi

- manvanfan


Chara McAvoy
Zboril Carlo
Scrub Scrub

end of debate
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
What's very strange is that he canucks slide is occurring at the same time as the comets slide. Both teams on a long win streak previous. Im not sure what accounts for that
- SMBDragon

Definitely coaching
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 2:03 PM ET


A Porsche lost control and drove his car through here. How drunk do you have to be.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Nov 10 @ 2:27 PM ET


A Porsche lost control and drove his car through here. How drunk do you have to be.

- VANTEL


He was probably following Apple Maps
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Nov 10 @ 2:32 PM ET
Anyone see Hoglander attempt a spinning “Michigan” from the slot in traffic?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 2:32 PM ET
Chara McAvoy
Zboril Carlo
Scrub Scrub

end of debate

- VANTEL

I don't like when they win either
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 10 @ 2:34 PM ET
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 10 @ 2:43 PM ET
I just noticed that klingberg is out 2-4 weekels. Good thing I traded him.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Nov 10 @ 2:52 PM ET
They need to find a replacement for him. Who though? Need someone that isn't afraid to speak their mind on topics but not offend everyone.
- manvanfan

Brian Burke
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 2:59 PM ET
Brian Burke
- Shuswap Wap



He seems like the obvious but he will never rock the boat. He is as Vanilla as his hair.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Nov 10 @ 2:59 PM ET
Love it.

Some of my best friends are colored, we joke around at times about stuff that would horrify most people. The key is there's zero hate involved. I'd take a bullet for any one of them. Color to me and people in my circle means SFA.

- VanHockeyGuy

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