I think there's a bit of a paradox with Mittelstadt. He needs more ice time to get more points, but hes not good enough defensively to get the time. Hes stuck in a rough place
- jcragcrumple

I think he is trending upwards as I see flashes of what he can be. He was one of their better players in Sweden.

I think there's a bit of a paradox with Mittelstadt. He needs more ice time to get more points, but hes not good enough defensively to get the time. Hes stuck in a rough place
- jcragcrumple

I think he's one of the players that could have benefited from time in the AHL.

Though Sam never did and after Christmas a few years back, the light went on for him and he became solid.

I think he's one of the players that could have benefited from time in the AHL.

Though Sam never did and after Christmas a few years back, the light went on for him and he became solid.
- gcomella34

I dont get why he didnt go back to school another year. IMO he wasnt in another tier in college like some others have been.

I dont get why he didnt go back to school another year. IMO he wasnt in another tier in college like some others have been.
- hubie

Guaranteed money. He had the leverage. He used it.

Guaranteed money. He had the leverage. He used it.
- buffalofan19

I think the question was posed as “why didn’t botts keep him in school” for that reason. It’s a valid question. He says he wants to marinate young players and then goes and does that.

I think the question was posed as “why didn’t botts keep him in school” for that reason. It’s a valid question. He says he wants to marinate young players and then goes and does that.
- TheHank

I wonder if he was afraid of losing him.

The organization just lost that goalie I already forgot about, maybe he didn't want to lose him too.

Losing a guy live Vesey or that goalie when drafted in later rounds is one thing, losing a number 8 pick would be a disaster.

I wonder if he was afraid of losing him.

The organization just lost that goalie I already forgot about, maybe he didn't want to lose him too.

Losing a guy live Vesey or that goalie when drafted in later rounds is one thing, losing a number 8 pick would be a disaster.
- gcomella34

Exactly. Mittelstadt had the leverage. Remember, part of his deal was that he was to be NHL eligible right after his year at Minnesota ended, thus burning a year on his entry level deal. His agent did a really good job of convincing Botterill he was willing to go that route.

The goalie was Cal Petersen out of Notre Dame.

Exactly. Mittelstadt had the leverage. Remember, part of his deal was that he was to be NHL eligible right after his year at Minnesota ended, thus burning a year on his entry level deal. His agent did a really good job of convincing Botterill he was willing to go that route.

The goalie was Cal Petersen out of Notre Dame.
- buffalofan19

If he really wanted the money, he wasn’t going to stay 4 years anyways. I don’t see it.

If he really wanted the money, he wasn’t going to stay 4 years anyways. I don’t see it.
- TheHank

Bingo
Talking one more year of college not 3 more
edit 2 more after that

Bingo
Talking one more year of college not 3 more
edit 2 more after that
- hubie

And if he tears an Achilles tendon during year 2 of college? He gets $0. If you have the leverage, you take it. You can always go back to school later.

Exactly. Mittelstadt had the leverage. Remember, part of his deal was that he was to be NHL eligible right after his year at Minnesota ended, thus burning a year on his entry level deal. His agent did a really good job of convincing Botterill he was willing to go that route.

The goalie was Cal Petersen out of Notre Dame.
- buffalofan19

I think Fasching got to burn a year of his eligibility as well. That worked.

And if he tears an Achilles tendon during year 2 of college? He gets $0. If you have the leverage, you take it. You can always go back to school later.
- buffalofan19

If youre afraid of getting hurt every day why play?

And if he tears an Achilles tendon during year 2 of college? He gets $0. If you have the leverage, you take it. You can always go back to school later.
- buffalofan19

also you can take insurance out as other future pros have done

If youre afraid of getting hurt every day why play?
- hubie

It's not being afraid of getting hurt. I don't plan on getting killed in a car accident on my way home from work. I still have a life insurance policy just in case.

also you can take insurance out as other future pros have done
- hubie

You can, but if I can make $925,000 at 18 years old, I'm taking it. Again, I can always go back to school later, just like Botterill himself did.

IMO the only real casey point can be is he then went on the international stage and lead in points so one could think he was ready when in fact he was not.

I do however feel better teams done factor outcomes on them they are role players till ready.
People want him to be the 2c out of need but based on performance nowhere close

You can, but if I can make $925,000 at 18 years old, I'm taking it. Again, I can always go back to school later, just like Botterill himself did.
- buffalofan19

but again, they could have kept him down its not like he says i play or im not signing with you

but again, they could have kept him down its not like he says i play or im not signing with you
- hubie

See, that's where I think he did, or at least his agent did. Not only did Botterill sign him one year out of college, he burned a year of his entry level deal on 10 or so meaningless games. He didn't even go to Rochester. There's no way the team does that unless it doesn't have the leverage.

i just got done listening to the ben shapiro show so please tell me why something was offensive using only FACTS and LOGIC
- robz228

Ben Shapiro. There is your problem right there.

See, that's where I think he did, or at least his agent did. Not only did Botterill sign him one year out of college, he burned a year of his entry level deal on 10 or so meaningless games. He didn't even go to Rochester. There's no way the team does that unless it doesn't have the leverage.
- buffalofan19

either way its in the past. neither one of us have a delorian.

Maybe you should, considering that a society/civilization, has never, in recorded human history, survived mass immigration from 3rd world countries.

Also your point on their LGBTQ views: this is just another lie/disinformation talking point peddled to the masses. Gays were not allowed to own land, serve in the military, hold political office, etc.
- BareMetal

Define “mass.” And please tell us how you have come to know so much about Canada’s immigration policy based upon primary research/ documents, rather than the manufactured crisis-war on Xmas- poor little white man sources you will inevitably site.

My argument is simple and has yet to be refuted: I have listened to the comments - IN CONTEXT - on video and I have read them. They don't offened me, and I cannot understand how a reasonable person could be offended by them.

I have asked repeatedly why they are offensive, and have yet to be told why. I have been insulted at least twice for telling people their definition of offensive being "that's offensive" is unacceptable. You, in fact are one of those people who resorted to insults. your definition of insult seem to be whatever you need it to be at the time.
- lacaprup

False. I have told you already, last night.

Keep the political crap out of here guys

Go to (frank)ing reddit if you want to go on about an old (frank)tard's moronic statements

I hear enough of it every time I turn on Fox or CNN

NO one cares what you guys think of soon to be dead Don Cherry

No one cares about your political affiliations or what does or does not offend you

Keep the political crap out of here guys

Go to (frank)ing reddit if you want to go on about an old (frank)tard's moronic statements

I hear enough of it every time I turn on Fox or CNN

NO one cares what you guys think of soon to be dead Don Cherry

No one cares about your political affiliations or what does or does not offend you
- BeadyEyedDouche

I take that comment as a contribution to the topic, thus invalidating the rest of your comment

See, that's where I think he did, or at least his agent did. Not only did Botterill sign him one year out of college, he burned a year of his entry level deal on 10 or so meaningless games. He didn't even go to Rochester. There's no way the team does that unless it doesn't have the leverage.
- buffalofan19

A+