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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 11 @ 9:38 PM ET
I still hear nothing other then moving the usual suspects for prospects/picks to put us in a better cap position to finish the year


the hope for the season additions are pilut, thompson and maybe borgen in a pinch

not a 4 to 7 million dollar a year player

- homiedclown


Cue the cherry-picking crybaby on how Botts just needs to “get it done”

Maybe Botts could call GMTM & ask how to make some crazy deals out of desperation?
I bet that would help us out a lot
Let’s just overpay for _________
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 11 @ 9:45 PM ET
Cue the cherry-picking crybaby on how Botts just needs to “get it done”

Maybe Botts could call GMTM & ask how to make some crazy deals out of desperation?
I bet that would help us out a lot

- jdfitz77

he could bring a blah player with term

but they have no cap

and tage is probably a better short term and long term option
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 11 @ 9:47 PM ET
Right. Because being 3rd in 5 on 5 goals from 2016-2018 to only McDavid and Matthews isn’t enough.

But the past 42 games tell all

- sbroads24


The reason botts paid skinner is because he scores goals. I'd say as skinner goes the Sabres go.

He needs to get going again. All scorers go thru it.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 11 @ 9:51 PM ET
Right. Because being 3rd in 5 on 5 goals from 2016-2018 to only McDavid and Matthews isn’t enough.

But the past 42 games tell all

- sbroads24


Power play goals count the same as even strength goals, assists do matter. He doesn’t kill penalties, can’t be trusted on defensively.

Skinner is a volume shooter, he better score because if he doesn’t what good would that be ?

I’ll tell you what, it would be the equivalent to an NFL offence that throws the ball 80% of the time and averages between 15-19 points.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 11 @ 9:51 PM ET
he could bring a blah player with term

but they have no cap

and tage is probably a better short term and long term option

- homiedclown



Jimmy Carter could be a solid pick in Dead pool

https://twitter.com/Reute.../1194073684446568448?s=20
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 11 @ 9:57 PM ET
Power play goals count the same as even strength goals, assists do matter. He doesn’t kill penalties, can’t be trusted on defensively.

Skinner is a volume shooter, he better score because if he doesn’t what good would that be ?

I’ll tell you what, it would be the equivalent to an NFL offence that throws the ball 80% of the time and averages between 15-19 points.

- Swedish_Jesus

It’s a shame you have such a delusional opinion on Skinner because I do agree with you about a lot of things.

Because the bolded is just plain out there.

You claimed Skinner doesn’t make players better, yet Johansson had the best start he’s had maybe in his entire career with him, Jack Eichel has been less effective 5 on 5 this year without him.

He made Victor Rask a viable top 9 center for 2 years he was his primary center and now shockingly, Carolina moved him and Minnesota has him as a healthy scratch at times.


Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 11 @ 10:04 PM ET
It’s a shame you have such a delusional opinion on Skinner because I do agree with you about a lot of things.

Because the bolded is just plain out there.

You claimed Skinner doesn’t make players better, yet Johansson had the best start he’s had maybe in his entire career with him, Jack Eichel has been less effective 5 on 5 this year without him.

He made Victor Rask a viable top 9 center for 2 years he was his primary center and now shockingly, Carolina moved him and Minnesota has him as a healthy scratch at times.

- sbroads24


Skinner is 9th in the league in SOG. He gets the puck and shoots. He has no play making ability. If he didn’t score the only thing he would do well is draw penalties.

I don’t see how the bolded doesn’t make sense. A volume shooter who can’t score would be as useful as a pass oriented NFL offence that doesn’t score points. Makes sense to me.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 11 @ 10:09 PM ET
Skinner is 9th in the league in SOG. He gets the puck and shoots. He has no play making ability. If he didn’t score the only thing he would do well is draw penalties.

I don’t see how the bolded doesn’t make sense. A volume shooter who can’t score would be as useful as a pass oriented NFL offence that doesn’t score points. Makes sense to me.

- Swedish_Jesus

Who CANT SCORE??? CANT SCORE!!??

Are you taking about Skinner??

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 11 @ 10:10 PM ET
Cue the cherry-picking crybaby on how Botts just needs to “get it done”

Maybe Botts could call GMTM & ask how to make some crazy deals out of desperation?
I bet that would help us out a lot
Let’s just overpay for _________

- jdfitz77



Your super duper aggressive
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 11 @ 10:10 PM ET
he could bring a blah player with term

but they have no cap

and tage is probably a better short term and long term option

- homiedclown



Hopefully a nhl GM has a tad more creativity than this
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 11 @ 10:11 PM ET
he could bring a blah player with term

but they have no cap

and tage is probably a better short term and long term option

- homiedclown


As much as I’ve been on record not liking Tage,
he’s playing well enough in Rochester that he’s gonna get another chance up here

Interesting that they moved Mitts to the wing like you’ve been calling for
But then they moved Skinner down to “line3”
Maybe put him back up with MoJo & Mitts?

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 11 @ 10:13 PM ET
As much as I’ve been on record not liking Tage,
he’s playing well enough in Rochester that he’s gonna get another chance up here

Interesting that they moved Mitts to the wing like you’ve been calling for
But then they moved Skinner down to “line3”
Maybe put him back up with MoJo & Mitts?

- jdfitz77



This is a prime example of limited thinking
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 11 @ 10:14 PM ET
Your super duper aggressive
- washedup20


Cue Hank to correct your grammar
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 11 @ 10:14 PM ET
This is a prime example of limited thinking
- washedup20


Ok, I’ll play along...
How so?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 11 @ 10:19 PM ET
Your super duper aggressive
- washedup20



You spelled "you're " wrong.

@hank will let you slide
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 11 @ 10:20 PM ET
Who CANT SCORE??? CANT SCORE!!??

Are you taking about Skinner??

- sbroads24


No I’m making a metaphorical comparison between two different sports and I thought you would read between the lines and understand it.

Skinner is a volume shooter who is shooting at an 11.3% clip which is slightly above the NHL average. If that percentage were to dip for whatever reason he would not be very useful (one goal and one point in the last 7 games useful).

A volume shooter who doesn’t pass much needs to score or what good are they ?

Much like if you are going to have an NFL offence that throws the ball as much as the Bills do, the QB throwing for 300 + yards should be a given every Sunday or else your going to have an offence that scores 15-19 points a week.

Now my previous post may make more sense.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 11 @ 10:27 PM ET
I took you people as a rant to those not buying/wearing the poppy
he was all over the place trying to get his desire to support the troops out there

they flip it into a racist statement with the focus on "you people"

you could clearly tell he was passionate and trying to get as much out in his rant as his limited time allowed

pretty sure if the puppet had asked him to clarify, he would have cleaned it up
instead the puppet gave him a thumbs up

then I watched some canadian news

one of their "offensive" rants from his past was


'I like america, they have always had our backs"


how the f@ck is this offensive?



then some middle east female sports journalist went on a rant, like AOC, no facts, no flow

then an interview with a muslim who's contribution was talking about his grandfathers serving for canada

not him, his grandfathers


pretty f'd up

- homiedclown



It is a f'd-up world we live in no doubt.
Lots acting like little snowflakes, all but hurt
.
Laughable
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 11 @ 10:27 PM ET
No I’m making a metaphorical comparison between two different sports and I thought you would read between the lines and understand it.

Skinner is a volume shooter who is shooting at an 11.3% clip which is slightly above the NHL average. If that percentage were to dip for whatever reason he would not be very useful (one goal and one point in the last 7 games useful).

A volume shooter who doesn’t pass much needs to score or what good are they ?

Much like if you are going to have an NFL offence that throws the ball as much as the Bills do, the QB throwing for 300 + yards should be a given every Sunday or else your going to have an offence that scores 15-19 points a week.

Now my previous post may make more sense.

- Swedish_Jesus

The weird thing is you act like he’s the NHL’s worst passer.

He still averages more assists than 75% of the league.

Scores more goals than 95% of the league.

Yet your metaphor is that he’s somehow inefficient?

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 11 @ 10:31 PM ET
Six, count 'em 6 fvcking defensive forwards on this team who are struggling to get on pace for 15-20 points, but let's single out the only 40 goal guy the Sabres have had since 1842.
Crazy pills must be given away free today, lol
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Nov 11 @ 10:36 PM ET
Six, count 'em 6 fvcking defensive forwards on this team who are struggling to get on pace for 15-20 points, but let's single out the only 40 goal guy the Sabres have had since 1842.
Crazy pills must be given away free today, lol

- IonSabres


Yep you can’t argue with crazy and:or dillusional
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 11 @ 10:46 PM ET
Six, count 'em 6 fvcking defensive forwards on this team who are struggling to get on pace for 15-20 points, but let's single out the only 40 goal guy the Sabres have had since 1842.
Crazy pills must be given away free today, lol

- IonSabres


Ion - are you going to the Bill's/dolphins game sunday?
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 11 @ 10:49 PM ET
The weird thing is you act like he’s the NHL’s worst passer.

He still averages more assists than 75% of the league.

Scores more goals than 95% of the league.

Yet your metaphor is that he’s somehow inefficient?

- sbroads24


He is an elite goal scorer that averages 55 points a season.

Every other elite goal scorer gets 80+ points unless your Cam Atkinson.

Jeff has to score goals, if he shoots that much and doesn’t score he would be a 35-40 point player and fit in with your every day top 9 forward.


In terms of the other end of my metaphor, although it’s not Allen’s fault, his OC decides to throw the ball more then almost every other team in the NFL. When your entire offence is predicated on the pass, in a league where if a defender breathes on a receiver there is a flag, 300 + yards and a few touchdowns should be a given every Sunday.

If Skinner doesn’t score often as a volume shooter, he’d be a 35-40 point player. When Skinner isn’t scoring he gets 1 point in 7 games.

Allen is a volume passer who hasn’t been getting the results one should get with an offence that throws the ball that often hence why you guys struggle putting 20+ points on a weekly basis.

Now, the Bills can choose to run the ball more, which decreases the pass volume and can be another form of offence.

If Jeff Skinner goes in a scoring slump but was adding assists in that time frame I wouldn’t of wasted the ink it took to rant about this subject.

He played with Eichel for almost 3/4 of a season last year and had 23 assists.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Nov 11 @ 10:58 PM ET
Six, count 'em 6 fvcking defensive forwards on this team who are struggling to get on pace for 15-20 points, but let's single out the only 40 goal guy the Sabres have had since 1842.
Crazy pills must be given away free today, lol

- IonSabres


They are a problem too, who said they weren’t ?

What is nice though is that all of them have expiring contracts.

I don’t know what that has to do with questioning return on investment on a long term contract.



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 11 @ 11:01 PM ET
He is an elite goal scorer that averages 55 points a season.

Every other elite goal scorer gets 80+ points unless your Cam Atkinson.

Jeff has to score goals, if he shoots that much and doesn’t score he would be a 35-40 point player and fit in with your every day top 9 forward.


In terms of the other end of my metaphor, although it’s not Allen’s fault, his OC decides to throw the ball more then almost every other team in the NFL. When your entire offence is predicated on the pass, in a league where if a defender breathes on a receiver there is a flag, 300 + yards and a few touchdowns should be a given every Sunday.

If Skinner doesn’t score often as a volume shooter, he’d be a 35-40 point player. When Skinner isn’t scoring he gets 1 point in 7 games.

Allen is a volume passer who hasn’t been getting the results one should get with an offence that throws the ball that often hence why you guys struggle putting 20+ points on a weekly basis.

Now, the Bills can choose to run the ball more, which decreases the pass volume and can be another form of offence.

If Jeff Skinner goes in a scoring slump but was adding assists in that time frame I wouldn’t of wasted the ink it took to rant about this subject.

He played with Eichel for almost 3/4 of a season last year and had 23 assists.

- Swedish_Jesus


I get what u mean,
but u might as well just drop the football analogy

As for Skinner...
just about all goal scorers go through ups & downs throughout the season
It’s only a matter of time before we see him score 5 in 7 games (or something like that)

We still need more consistent secondary scoring
Maybe that’s why Ralph shook up the lines the other day?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 11 @ 11:36 PM ET
Ion - are you going to the Bill's/dolphins game sunday?
- Boss34


No.
I have gone to my share of Bill's games over the years and had loads of fun.
Just not interested in going anymore.
I wouldn't even go if it was a playoff game in Tampa, only 45 minutes away.
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