This hit wasn't on that level. Sabres fans are just fixated on truculence imo
- jcragcrumple

The Neil hit at the time was considered a "clean hit", In today's game it's a headshot

Drury passed the puck and was hit late there

The only difference is Drury was a captain and a good player that doesn't mean Sobotka shouldn't be stood up for.

I used to watch the old NFL, then along came this league of 'inferiors,' the AFL," he says. "But we used to love to watch those games. And the Bills had some really good teams, man. And it'd be snowing, just like our game with Indy a couple of years ago. People love that stuff. That's why I hate domed stadiums."

Terry Pegula in an article from Vic Carucci

So no dome then?

Michael Pachla: On Kucherov's dirty hit and what it might mean for the Sabres
- Michael Pachla

Cheap and unnecessary hit. Someone needs to show this M-effer, he does this regularly to smaller players, although not often,

The Neil hit at the time was considered a "clean hit", In today's game it's a headshot

Drury passed the puck and was hit late there

The only difference is Drury was a captain and a good player that doesn't mean Sobotka shouldn't be stood up for.
- Stripes77

Drury was drilled in the head. This was a low hit and it was late, but it's simply not on the same level

Cheap and unnecessary hit. Someone needs to show this M-effer, he does this regularly to smaller players, although not often,
- kastr99

I would not count on retribution coming from anyone wearing blue and gold. Not sure what good it'd do anyway. But if Tom Wilson works him over, I guess I'd chuckle at that.

Drury was drilled in the head. This was a low hit and it was late, but it's simply not on the same level
- jcragcrumple

IMO the only difference is the point of contact. Head v knee. Both are targets for cheap shots. I’m not interested in degrees of cheap. If you hit me or my boys cheap, in any way, I’m taking you behind the woodshed.

IMO the only difference is the point of contact. Head v knee. Both are targets for cheap shots. I’m not interested in degrees of cheap. If you hit me or my boys cheap, in any way, I’m taking you behind the woodshed.
- Der Kaiser

Alright, I think this is more like Zadorov on Eichel last year. The Miller and Drury parallels are a little over the top imo

IMO the only difference is the point of contact. Head v knee. Both are targets for cheap shots. I’m not interested in degrees of cheap. If you hit me or my boys cheap, in any way, I’m taking you behind the woodshed.
- Der Kaiser

This

Jesus who cares if he was hit in the head or taken out at the knees

A blown MCL keeps you out of the lineup longer than a concussion

You play the same team tonight, take and finish each opportunity to give Kucherov a hard check, charging is a minor if properly executed. Nuff said.

Cozens had another solid game. Scored one on the way to a 4 goal comeback.

28pts 18g. Still want him to pick up the pace, but 7 game scoring streaks are okay, right?

John Vogl
@BuffaloVogl
· 10m
Sabres' new-look lineup versus Tampa:

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Vesey-Johansson-MITTELSTADT
Skinner-Rodrigues-Sheary
Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo

McCabe-Ristolainen
Dahlin-Montour
Jokiharju-Miller

Hutton

Switch Vesey and Skinner and you might be onto something here

Alright, I think this is more like Zadorov on Eichel last year. The Miller and Drury parallels are a little over the top imo
- jcragcrumple

Well then you’re going to be very disappointed in this reply:

In my book, Zadarov’s hit on Eichel was the same as Neal/Drury: a cheap shot on the captain. Any cheap shot is bad, cheap shots at the captain are egregious.

In the line brawl that followed Neal/Drury, yknow why Lindy sent out the goons? He told Brian Murray why. “That’s our captain! You don’t hit our captain, hit Peters, but not our captain!”

Kucherov is and always has been dirty.

Kucherov is and always has been dirty.
- drew18

Still butthurt over the Vatanen hit eh?

John Vogl
@BuffaloVogl
· 10m
Sabres' new-look lineup versus Tampa:

Olofsson-Eichel-Reinhart
Vesey-Johansson-MITTELSTADT
Skinner-Rodrigues-Sheary
Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo

McCabe-Ristolainen
Dahlin-Montour
Jokiharju-Miller

Hutton

Switch Vesey and Skinner and you might be onto something here
- Stripes77

I like the new look. That third line would be atrocious if you take Skinner off though.

Well then you’re going to be very disappointed in this reply:

In my book, Zadarov’s hit on Eichel was the same as Neal/Drury: a cheap shot on the captain. Any cheap shot is bad, cheap shots at the captain are egregious.

In the line brawl that followed Neal/Drury, yknow why Lindy sent out the goons? He told Brian Murray why. “That’s our captain! Go after Peters, but don't go after our captain!”
- Der Kaiser

THis starts about 5 seconds late

Well then you’re going to be very disappointed in this reply:

In my book, Zadarov’s hit on Eichel was the same as Neal/Drury: a cheap shot on the captain. Any cheap shot is bad, cheap shots at the captain are egregious.

In the line brawl that followed Neal/Drury, yknow why Lindy sent out the goons? He told Brian Murray why. “That’s our captain! You don’t hit our captain, hit Peters, but not our captain!”
- Der Kaiser

I was fine with the response on the Eichel hit. It was still overblown imo. I think what happened to Sobotka happens around the league quite a bit, but for some reason Sabres fans always get worked up about this stuff more than other fan bases

Dirty? No.

"Extremely late"? No.

Unfortunate? Yes.

It was a hip-check that landed awkwardly a second after he reliquinshed possession of the puck. Both players were already in momentum - the die was cast.

Was it avoidable? Probably.

Is Kuch the new Lucic 2.0 or Marchand 2.0? No.

Now, if this continues into a pattern, I will change my opinion. I am not a homer. I have turned on dirty players on "my" team in the past (see Radko Gudas). But at this point, I think this is overreaction to an unfortunate play. It sucks that he was injured. Nobody wants that.

I'd be pissed if I was a Sabres fan. Yeah, somebody should have stood him up for it. He should have been penalized. But it wasn't dirty, filthy, greasy, scummy, or any of the other words I have seen used to describe it. And yes, I watched it live. And yes I watched it several times on replay at full speed and slo-mo. It's borderline. My opinion would be the same if the teams had been reversed.

This is a physical game played at high speed. Poop happens. I hope this isn't a serious injury. And I would fully expect a Sabre to take a run at Kuch today - and I wouldn't hold it against them as long as it isn't a Marchand spear, Lucic sucker punch, or Crosby chop.

Other than that hit, it was an entertaining game and I look forward to the next one.

I was fine with the response on the Eichel hit. It was still overblown imo. I think what happened to Sobotka happens around the league quite a bit, but for some reason Sabres fans always get worked up about this stuff more than other fan bases
- jcragcrumple

It doesn't but okay

Easy there tiger... Having a guy that can play and protect is a big difference than signing or trading for numb skulls like Lucic.
- dozerD10

Exactly

Dirty? No.

"Extremely late"? No.

Unfortunate? Yes.

It was a hip-check that landed awkwardly a second after he reliquinshed possession of the puck. Both players were already in momentum - the die was cast.

Was it avoidable? Probably.

Is Kuch the new Lucic 2.0 or Marchand 2.0? No.

Now, if this continues into a pattern, I will change my opinion. I am not a homer. I have turned on dirty players on "my" team in the past (see Radko Gudas). But at this point, I think this is overreaction to an unfortunate play. It sucks that he was injured. Nobody wants that.

I'd be pissed if I was a Sabres fan. Yeah, somebody should have stood him up for it. He should have been penalized. But it wasn't dirty, filthy, greasy, scummy, or any of the other words I have seen used to describe it. And yes, I watched it live. And yes I watched it several times on replay at full speed and slo-mo. It's borderline. My opinion would be the same if the teams had been reversed.

This is a physical game played at high speed. Poop happens. I hope this isn't a serious injury. And I would fully expect a Sabre to take a run at Kuch today - and I wouldn't hold it against them as long as it isn't a Marchand spear, Lucic sucker punch, or Crosby chop.

Other than that hit, it was an entertaining game and I look forward to the next one.
- GalacticStone

My biggest problem is that Risto got called for a late hit that was no later than what Kuch did. That was bullpoop. They both should have gotten 2, or neither of them. The NHL is so inconsistent

Dirty? No.

"Extremely late"? No.

Unfortunate? Yes.

It was a hip-check that landed awkwardly a second after he reliquinshed possession of the puck. Both players were already in momentum - the die was cast.

Was it avoidable? Probably.

Is Kuch the new Lucic 2.0 or Marchand 2.0? No.

Now, if this continues into a pattern, I will change my opinion. I am not a homer. I have turned on dirty players on "my" team in the past (see Radko Gudas). But at this point, I think this is overreaction to an unfortunate play. It sucks that he was injured. Nobody wants that.

I'd be pissed if I was a Sabres fan. Yeah, somebody should have stood him up for it. He should have been penalized. But it wasn't dirty, filthy, greasy, scummy, or any of the other words I have seen used to describe it. And yes, I watched it live. And yes I watched it several times on replay at full speed and slo-mo. It's borderline. My opinion would be the same if the teams had been reversed.

This is a physical game played at high speed. Poop happens. I hope this isn't a serious injury. And I would fully expect a Sabre to take a run at Kuch today - and I wouldn't hold it against them as long as it isn't a Marchand spear, Lucic sucker punch, or Crosby chop.

Other than that hit, it was an entertaining game and I look forward to the next one.
- GalacticStone

Dirty and late

Kucherov didn't go to his position to deliver the hit after the puck was gone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEX_kImZMdo

And he went low real low

It doesn't but okay
- Stripes77

I only catch parts of 1-2 out of town games a week, and I wouldn't call it rare. Sabres fans just get in a tizzy whenever it happens

I like the new look. That third line would be atrocious if you take Skinner off though.
- Sabre_Tooth

We wont see any goals from skinner tonight with who he is playing today

Dirty? No.

"Extremely late"? No.

Unfortunate? Yes.

It was a hip-check that landed awkwardly a second after he reliquinshed possession of the puck. Both players were already in momentum - the die was cast.

Was it avoidable? Probably.

Is Kuch the new Lucic 2.0 or Marchand 2.0? No.

Now, if this continues into a pattern, I will change my opinion. I am not a homer. I have turned on dirty players on "my" team in the past (see Radko Gudas). But at this point, I think this is overreaction to an unfortunate play. It sucks that he was injured. Nobody wants that.

I'd be pissed if I was a Sabres fan. Yeah, somebody should have stood him up for it. He should have been penalized. But it wasn't dirty, filthy, greasy, scummy, or any of the other words I have seen used to describe it. And yes, I watched it live. And yes I watched it several times on replay at full speed and slo-mo. It's borderline. My opinion would be the same if the teams had been reversed.

This is a physical game played at high speed. Poop happens. I hope this isn't a serious injury. And I would fully expect a Sabre to take a run at Kuch today - and I wouldn't hold it against them as long as it isn't a Marchand spear, Lucic sucker punch, or Crosby chop.

Other than that hit, it was an entertaining game and I look forward to the next one.
- GalacticStone

At the intermission, JR and Patrick Sharp had a different opinion. Both of them called it dirty.