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PatThePistol
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.08.2019

Nov 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
Bill do we have any news on Patrick?
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Nov 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
Braun does get a lot of PK work but he's starting 56.6% of his shifts in the offensive zone at 5-on-5, largely due to being paired with Ghost or Sanheim. Vigneault said the other day that Braun has to play better and the player himself agreed.

In fairness, Braun has played into some tough luck -- the save percentages behind him are artificially low, and should correct -- and his partners also have not been at their best in many of the games together. But Braun has to play a bit better overall, too.

- bmeltzer


Thanks again Bill. I wasn’t one of those who was against the Braun trade, but he didn’t seem to be playing up to expectations by my eye test. You pretty much confirmed that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
Thanks again Bill. I wasn’t one of those who was against the Braun trade, but he didn’t seem to be playing up to expectations by my eye test. You pretty much confirmed that.
- Djapana


My personal opinion is that at this point in his career, Braun is a 3rd pair defenseman that the Flyers are asking to play a bigger role.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 9 @ 2:46 PM ET
Unless they move Giroux back to wing, Laughton is going to be the the 4C when he returns.
- MJL

Laughton I think is fine for 4th C
I think he’s maybe better at wing though

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
Next 3 games are as tough as any they will face all year. If they get 3 points they will have done very well.
- PLindbergh31

that's being positive
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Nov 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
Ronnie Attard > Ghost
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 9 @ 3:36 PM ET
Ronnie Attard > Ghost
- Richieattack18

trade ghost for kapanen then
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Nov 9 @ 3:54 PM ET
trade ghost for kapanen then
- 2Real

I would love to
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 9 @ 4:09 PM ET
I would love to
- Richieattack18

Yes.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 9 @ 4:37 PM ET
Seems like there is a discrepancy between the two sites.
- MJL


Bill cited 5 vs 5 Ozone starts at 56%

The 47% ozone you suggested may be total o zone starts all situations
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
Bill cited 5 vs 5 Ozone starts at 56%

The 47% ozone you suggested may be total o zone starts all situations

- Just5


Did it occur to you at all to maybe actually look it up before commenting. On the odd chance that you might get it right?

http://naturalstattrick.c...ines=single&draftteam=ALL
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 9 @ 5:11 PM ET
In fairness, Braun has played into some tough luck -- the save percentages behind him are artificially low, and should correct -- and his partners also have not been at their best in many of the games together. But Braun has to play a bit better overall, too.
- bmeltzer


Braun seems to be doing a good job of limiting shot/chance quantity/quality. His 1.82 xGA/60 is quite low and places him in the top-20 dmen in the league who've played 100+ mins. He leads the team (not counting Myers).

And yeah, the SV% behind him has been stupid low... .813%.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
Did it occur to you at all to maybe actually look it up before commenting. On the odd chance that you might get it right?

http://naturalstattrick.c...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

- MJL


Working right now thanks
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
Braun seems to be doing a good job of limiting shot/chance quantity/quality. His 1.82 xGA/60 is quite low and places him in the top-20 dmen in the league who've played 100+ mins. He leads the team (not counting Myers).

And yeah, the SV% behind him has been stupid low... .813%.

- Tomahawk


The Flyers GF% with Braun on the ice is 29.63%
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
Working right now thanks
- Just5


Doesn't matter.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 9 @ 5:19 PM ET
The Flyers GF% with Braun on the ice is 29.63%
- MJL


Yeah, that doesn't look good, but his xGF% is 52.7%. Think Bill's mostly right when he chalks it up to some bad luck, bad goaltending, and trouble w/ his partners. Braun could be better, but I'm really not sure just how much better we can expect him to be. He's actually playing well defensively.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 9 @ 5:39 PM ET
Yeah, that doesn't look good, but his xGF% is 52.7%. Think Bill's mostly right when he chalks it up to some bad luck, bad goaltending, and trouble w/ his partners. Braun could be better, but I'm really not sure just how much better we can expect him to be. He's actually playing well defensively.
- Tomahawk


Expected goals is a BS stat. It's not real. I think he is playing up to his ability. In my opinion he is a 3rd pair defenseman who should be sheltered and play on the PK. The Flyers have him in a top 4 role. The best hope for the Flyers is that Myers continues to elevate his play and Braun's role is diminished.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
Expected goals is a BS stat. It's not real.
- MJL


ok
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 9 @ 7:12 PM ET
What’s the holdup? When’s this game gonna start?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 9 @ 7:16 PM ET
What’s the holdup? When’s this game gonna start?
- Dkos

right after the Ugandan and Swiss national anthems
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 9 @ 7:33 PM ET
I might but crazy but I really think Myers is going to end up being the best of the young D men.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 9 @ 7:35 PM ET
I might but crazy but I really think Myers is going to end up being the best of the young D men.
- hereticpride


Love his game so far since call up. New Brunswick respresent!!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 9 @ 7:36 PM ET
I might but crazy but I really think Myers is going to end up being the best of the young D men.
- hereticpride


sILKAsSINASALO
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2018

Nov 9 @ 7:36 PM ET
I might but crazy but I really think Myers is going to end up being the best of the young D men.
- hereticpride

That would be awesome especislly since he went undrafted and got turned away by Calgary. I guess this is what balanaces out our #2 overall pick being eternally injured

Hockey gods
sILKAsSINASALO
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2018

Nov 9 @ 7:36 PM ET
Who has a link for the game tonight? Please and thank you
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