Kinda snowy here.. it was pretty this AM..

Lol..

Very few gulls still kicking around.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Lol. Dang birds.

85 points and 12th in league scoring does not make him worth that contract.
- Aetherial

The 52 goals would though

Kadri’s played the right way.

Sometimes he crossed the line, but overall he brought a lot of character that I think they could use rn. They love him in COL, he’s been a big part of their success.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Kadri didn't scare anybody and hothead retaliation penalties are not the "right way".

Don't get me wrong, Tom Wilson should have been booted from the league years ago. As long as he is not a Leaf though, he will be free to do whatever the F he wants out there.

Kadri didn't scare anybody and hothead retaliation penalties are not the "right way".

Don't get me wrong, Tom Wilson should have been booted from the league years ago. As long as he is not a Leaf though, he will be free to do whatever the F he wants out there.
- Aetherial

Maybe Calgary waives Lucic and we can get him at half his cap hit?

Maybe Calgary waives Lucic and we can get him at half his cap hit?
- PatC80

Lol that’s a joke a right?

Lol that’s a joke a right?
- Blazed

Yes. Couldn't find a sarcasm button.😁😁

Yes. Couldn't find a sarcasm button.😁😁
- PatC80

I don’t think he’ll play enough games if he keeps taking hits, to hit 50.

All this could be solved if the Leafs had a guy like Wilson. Or at least someone who’ll respond, like Kadri used to. They’re missing his presence, he played the right way.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Having Wilson, Reaves, Kadri, anyone isn't going to make an NHL player change his mind on a hit midplay. They have a split second to even make the hit, you think they are going to go "oh I better not hit him, Wilson might come at me"

If Matthews puts up 50 goals, he gets a pass on the Selke trophy. How many Selke trophies has OV won?
- PatC80

I think the better question is, how many times has Ovechkin led the league in scoring and didn't win a Cup?

Scoring goals is great but unless you literally score a goal per game (like Gretzky did) or something extraordinary like that, playing a complete game is what wins Cups.

And that's the main issue logical people have with this team. People want to see this team win a Cup, not just score goals and let everything else slide by the way side.

I think the better question is, how many times has Ovechkin led the league in scoring and didn't win a Cup?

Scoring goals is great but unless you literally score a goal per game (like Gretzky did) or something extraordinary like that, playing a complete game is what wins Cups.

And that's the main issue logical people have with this team. People want to see this team win a Cup, not just score goals and let everything else slide by the way side.
- JohnFergusonJr

I do want the Leafs to win the Cup, but if Matthews scores 50 and we don't win the Cup is it his fault? Sounds like you're blaming OV for previous Capitals failures.

Kadri didn't scare anybody and hothead retaliation penalties are not the "right way".

Don't get me wrong, Tom Wilson should have been booted from the league years ago. As long as he is not a Leaf though, he will be free to do whatever the F he wants out there.
- Aetherial

But at least Kadri would do something. Right now, the Leafs have nobody who does anything. Not even Muzzin, who you'd think might do something.

When the other teams know the Leafs won't do anything, they know they can bully them, even more than they already do.

That's a big problem. Matthews, Barrie and Kerfoot have already been steamrolled with no reply. Whether they were clean hits or not doesn't really matter. Somebody should have done something. The only time I've seen anybody respond was Marincin of all people when Backes ran over Andersen.

That's sad when you think about how the successful playoff teams the Leafs had in the past had guys that would smash you for doing anything to a teammate.

I do want the Leafs to win the Cup, but if Matthews scores 50 and we don't win the Cup is it his fault? Sounds like you're blaming OV for previous Capitals failures.
- PatC80

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But at least Kadri would do something. Right now, the Leafs have nobody who does anything. Not even Muzzin, who you'd think might do something.

When the other teams know the Leafs won't do anything, they know they can bully them, even more than they already do.

That's a big problem. Matthews, Barrie and Kerfoot have already been steamrolled with no reply. Whether they were clean hits or not doesn't really matter. Somebody should have done something. The only time I've seen anybody respond was Marincin of all people when Backes ran over Andersen.

That's sad when you think about how the successful playoff teams the Leafs had in the past had guys that would smash you for doing anything to a teammate.
- JohnFergusonJr

Thank you Negative Nancy.

I do want the Leafs to win the Cup, but if Matthews scores 50 and we don't win the Cup is it his fault? Sounds like you're blaming OV for previous Capitals failures.
- PatC80

Yes it is his fault. You can't pay a guy 11+ million dollars a year, get bounced in the 1st round and then not give that guy at least some portion of the blame.

And yes, Ovechkin was to blame for some of the Capitals failures. It took him a decade to learn how to play a style of game that succeeded in the playoffs. Took him several coaches to get there too.

At the end of the day, Ovechkin has 8 (and counting) Richard trophies and only one Stanley Cup. Matthews isn't even as good as Ovechkin so that leaves you to wonder what his Cup situation will look like after 5-10 years in the league if he doesn't change.

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- harps43

😁😁😁

Thank you Negative Nancy.
- PatC80

It's just reality.

Lack of defense, lack of heart and lack of team toughness. Can't say I've seen anybody win the Cup with those three issues occurring concurrently.

Yes it is his fault. You can't pay a guy 11+ million dollars a year, get bounced in the 1st round and then not give that guy at least some portion of the blame.

And yes, Ovechkin was to blame for some of the Capitals failures. It took him a decade to learn how to play a style of game that succeeded in the playoffs. Took him several coaches to get there too.

At the end of the day, Ovechkin has 8 (and counting) Richard trophies and only one Stanley Cup. Matthews isn't even as good as Ovechkin so that leaves you to wonder what his Cup situation will look like after 5-10 years in the league.
- JohnFergusonJr

Was last years loss to Boston in round 1 Matthews fault? Only his fault? The team doesn't matter. It's all on him dangit.

It's just reality.

Lack of defense, lack of heart and lack of team toughness. Can't say I've seen anybody win the Cup with those three issues occurring concurrently.
- JohnFergusonJr

And you think all of that is Matthews fault?

Was last years loss to Boston in round 1 Matthews fault? Only his fault? The team doesn't matter. It's all on him dangit.
- PatC80

I never said it was only his fault. I never said the team wasn't to blame either. He played better last year than he did the year before but he also got the better match-up. The most disappointing big name Leafs player in the playoffs was actually Tavares.

And you think all of that is Matthews fault?
- PatC80

I can fault him for 2 of the 3 as an individual. Lack of defense and lack of heart. He's up at a high level in those categories sometimes but not all the time.

I don't think you can fault him for lack of toughness because that's not really in his skill set or job description. That's just a team problem in general and 99% of that falls on Dubas for building the team that way.

I never said it was only his fault. I never said the team wasn't to blame either. He played better last year than he did the year before but he also got the better match-up. The most disappointing big name Leafs player in the playoffs was actually Tavares.



I can fault him for 2 of the 3 as an individual. Lack of defense and lack of heart. He's up at a high level in those categories sometimes but not all the time.

I don't think you can fault him for lack of toughness because that's not really in his skill set or job description. That's just a team problem in general and 99% of that falls on Dubas for building the team that way.
- JohnFergusonJr

Thanks UG.

I think the better question is, how many times has Ovechkin led the league in scoring and didn't win a Cup?

Scoring goals is great but unless you literally score a goal per game (like Gretzky did) or something extraordinary like that, playing a complete game is what wins Cups.

And that's the main issue logical people have with this team. People want to see this team win a Cup, not just score goals and let everything else slide by the way side.
- JohnFergusonJr

How many of Bergeron’s Selke’s have you jizzed too when Bergeron hasn’t won the cup?

I never said it was only his fault. I never said the team wasn't to blame either. He played better last year than he did the year before but he also got the better match-up. The most disappointing big name Leafs player in the playoffs was actually Tavares.



I can fault him for 2 of the 3 as an individual. Lack of defense and lack of heart. He's up at a high level in those categories sometimes but not all the time.

I don't think you can fault him for lack of toughness because that's not really in his skill set or job description. That's just a team problem in general and 99% of that falls on Dubas for building the team that way.
- JohnFergusonJr

Jesus dude.

Jesus dude.
- RafiDRW

😁😁 Matthews needs to be a better defenseman, I guess.

Thanks UG.
- lumlums

I think ur UG.

😁😁 Matthews needs to be a better defenseman, I guess.
- PatC80

Yeah because the only players that play defense are defensemen.

You definitely know your hockey.