You mean outside of the suspensions?
- PatC80

He played more games than Matthews 🤷‍♂️

I hope he stays healthy. But I don’t think Kadri was much of a deterrent. They could use a big, tough player.
- shack67

He wasn’t.

But at least he stood up for his teammates. Which you’d think would rub off on them. They also obviously miss him on the PP.

The tough guy needs to be able to play, those are sorta rare.. Unless you want to go get Reaves..

It would be foolish.

In my opinion, at least.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I know he hasn't scored 50 in a season, I think he's capable of it. If/when he does, I don't think you can criticize him. Maybe if he scores 50 and somehow ends up with a -37 plus/minus rating.

He played more games than Matthews 🤷‍♂️
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Not when it mattered most, though.

He played more games than Matthews 🤷‍♂️
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Not when we needed him too. ( against Boston)

Not when it mattered most, though.
- GreatGigInTheSky

You win. Beat me too it.😁😁

By the way that “embarrassing” comment wasn’t directed at you. I was thinking about jfj and a couple of other people.

But at the end of the season I’ll eat my words about Matthews if you’re right.
- shack67

believe me, nothing would make me happier than being wrong.

They are so frustrating because I honestly think they have the best top-to-bottom lineup in hockey, Boston and Tampa being right there with them. They just play well below their potential a lot.

Not when we needed him too. ( against Boston)
- PatC80

Ok.

I’m not gonna sit here and argue about this.

What else is going on??

I don’t think he’ll play enough games if he keeps taking hits, to hit 50.

All this could be solved if the Leafs had a guy like Wilson. Or at least someone who’ll respond, like Kadri used to. They’re missing his presence, he played the right way.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Leafs issues, which they had last year, would be solved if they only had the guy they had.. last year.

He wasn’t.

But at least he stood up for his teammates. Which you’d think would rub off on them. They also obviously miss him on the PP.

The tough guy needs to be able to play, those are sorta rare.. Unless you want to go get Reaves..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I really liked Kadri. He could throw big hits for his size.

I know he hasn't scored 50 in a season, I think he's capable of it. If/when he does, I don't think you can criticize him. Maybe if he scores 50 and somehow ends up with a -37 plus/minus rating.
- PatC80

Yeah, if his minus equals his goal total, then I can see where criticising him would makes sense.

But that's about it, really.

believe me, nothing would make me happier than being wrong.

They are so frustrating because I honestly think they have the best top-to-bottom lineup in hockey, Boston and Tampa being right there with them. They just play well below their potential a lot.
- Aetherial

You're right.. I'm starting to think that maybe they are saving themselves for the playoffs. I hope that they don't take the regular season for granted and miss the playoffs altogether. That would suck

It would be foolish.

In my opinion, at least.
- GreatGigInTheSky

So what if he has 52 goals, 33 assists. Finished 12th in league scoring and 5 players score more than him (I know, not likely)

Would it still be wrong to note that he is not living up to his contract?

This is all hypothetical of course. My point is, you need to look at way more than just goals.

Ok.

I’m not gonna sit here and argue about this.

What else is going on??
- Arctic_AARDVARK

It's a mix of rain/snow here in Mississauga. How about you?

K some people need to Calm The (frank) Down

Fire Babcock!

Matthews is Kessel!

Trade Willie!

Why did we sign Ceci?

Really?...

Really?

FFS people

Leafs issues, which they had last year, would be solved if they only had the guy they had.. last year.
- Blazed

Kadri’s played the right way.

Sometimes he crossed the line, but overall he brought a lot of character that I think they could use rn. They love him in COL, he’s been a big part of their success.

After reading some of those sundin comments in the other thread I looked up his stats... did u know that his best season ever he put up 94 pts... his next best seasons were 85, 83, 83...

Mitch hit 94 already once...

Just seems unfathomable... especially playing in the 90's/early 2000's.

I know he hasn't scored 50 in a season, I think he's capable of it. If/when he does, I don't think you can criticize him. Maybe if he scores 50 and somehow ends up with a -37 plus/minus rating.
- PatC80

I would be surprised if he doesn't score 50 and is not top-3 in goals scored by the end of the year.

believe me, nothing would make me happier than being wrong.

They are so frustrating because I honestly think they have the best top-to-bottom lineup in hockey, Boston and Tampa being right there with them. They just play well below their potential a lot.
- Aetherial

Funny enough could you imagine the drama in here over the last 6 months if Toronto actually was Tampa?

First round sweep, keep the coach, start the season 6-5-2 on the outside looking in. It would be pandemonium.

It's a mix of rain/snow here in Mississauga. How about you?
- PatC80

Kinda snowy here.. it was pretty this AM..

Lol..

Very few gulls still kicking around.

So what if he has 52 goals, 33 assists. Finished 12th in league scoring and 5 players score more than him (I know, not likely)

Would it still be wrong to note that he is not living up to his contract?

This is all hypothetical of course. My point is, you need to look at way more than just goals.
- Aetherial

In your hypothetical, how do you criticize him? He would absolutely be worth the contract.

Funny enough could imagine the drama in here over the last 6 months if Toronto actually was Tampa?

First round sweep, keep the coach, start the season 6-5-2 on the outside looking in. It would be pandemonium.
- Blazed

It would be 100x worse in here because of those shattered expectations.

I still think Tampa is the favourite this year, although it is tough to not believe in Boston.

Aside from the expectations, I think Tampa and Toronto are both going through the same thing, right down to maybe the team is shutting out the coach(es).

I would be surprised if he doesn't score 50 and it not top-3 in goals scored by the end of the year.
- Aetherial

Same here. I think he can do it. IMO, he's worth the contract already.

In your hypothetical, how do you criticize him? He would absolutely be worth the contract.
- PatC80

85 points and 12th in league scoring does not make him worth that contract.

Kadri’s played the right way.

Sometimes he crossed the line, but overall he brought a lot of character that I think they could use rn. They love him in COL, he’s been a big part of their success.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Irrelevant to the point, the Leafs were the same soft team last year.