This Justin, gaping Holl found between Cory Schneider's legs.
- AdamFrench

so they found a new black holl eh!

Steib might be one of the most underappreciated star pitchers ever.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Agree

Sandin and Nylander likely gets you Doughty without money retained.(maybe minor picks or throw-ins on either side) Do you do it?
- rSole

Nylander yes
Sandin NO!

If only they had come up with these fancy stats in the early 80's.. Steib put up some great numbers on some bad teams..
In 1990, when he was 18-6, I thought he might have a chance to win the Cy Young.. Too bad Bob Welch was like 27-5, I think.. Lousy Oakland Athletics.
- PatC80

its hilarious now to see how useless wins is for pitchers but how heavily it influenced voting

Nylander yes
Sandin NO!
- zazzle

Sandin is going to be good.

A staple in the top 4 and cheap for a few years. We are keeping him.

All we are getting for the next few months in trades are Petan for a pick/low tier prospect and if the stars align a pick for Marincin.
- Santo_44

anything between a 3rd and a 7th round pick would be fine imo for the Leafs.

its hilarious now to see how useless wins is for pitchers but how heavily it influenced voting
- senstroll

Wins also heavily factors into the Vezina. It's the way it is.

Depth trades and some other teams will swap struggling contracts.

Other than that it’s nothing until mid January.

And even then, it’s stilly to talk about the TDL because who knows who will be available until teams know they are out of the playoffs.
- Santo_44

CBJ hopefully.

anything between a 3rd and a 7th round pick would be fine imo for the Leafs.
- zazzle

Yup.

I’d be fine if Dubas saw another 20 year old Trevor Moore type player that they could work on too

Or a backup goalie...whatever is is it’ll be minor.

its hilarious now to see how useless wins is for pitchers but how heavily it influenced voting
- senstroll

To be fair, the only stats to use were Wins, ERA, and strikeouts.

CBJ hopefully.
- zazzle

Ideally, yes... I'd like Anderson and Savard

Ideally, yes... I'd like Anderson and Savard
- PatC80

I doubt CBJ gives up either unless a team gives the moon.

CBJ hopefully.
- zazzle

Hopefully.

Detroit and Ottawa have garbage that will be available except maybe Athanasiou.

I doubt CBJ gives up either unless a team gives the moon.
- Santo_44

One can hope.

I doubt CBJ gives up either unless a team gives the moon.
- Santo_44

So all I have to do is show them my beautiful ass and it's a done deal?

So all I have to do is show them my beautiful ass and it's a done deal?
- Scabeh

Show?

You got to give them it....

Show?

You got to give them it....
- Santo_44

Wins also heavily factors into the Vezina. It's the way it is.
- AdamFrench

Well not in baseball anymore.
Wins is pretty much ignored

To be fair, the only stats to use were Wins, ERA, and strikeouts.
- PatC80

thats true.

Marlies getting out shot 17-5 after the first period.

Sandin not playing. Apparently too many defense on the team and it's his turn to sit.

Marlies getting out shot 17-5 after the first period.

Sandin not playing. Apparently too many defense on the team and it's his turn to sit.
- GreatGigInTheSky

#fireKeefzzz

#fireKeefzzz
- Santo_44

#Maxwasrightabouthim

Marlies score 8 second into the second period and give up a goal 32 seconds into the period.

All we are getting for the next few months in trades are Petan for a pick/low tier prospect and if the stars align a pick for Marincin.
- Santo_44

I fear that you are correct.. because Dubas will wait "hoping" that Nylander and a few of the others begin to produce closer to the expectations for them..

and primarily because he(Dubas) doesn't want to make the trade that everyone on the planet knows he must make...

the moving ( or not) of guys like Petan is inconsequential ...

I fear that you are correct.. because Dubas will wait "hoping" that Nylander and a few of the others begin to produce closer to the expectations for them..

and primarily because he(Dubas) doesn't want to make the trade that everyone on the planet knows he must make...

the moving ( or not) of guys like Petan is inconsequential ...
- BorjeFan4Ever

Waiting is good.

Fans screamed at the leafs all those years for trading talented young players after half a season of lacklustre play...Now it’s the opposite.

Nylander is different blah blah blah. He isn’t.

but would Kekalainen go for it ?




- zazzle

You'd have to trick him.

Spell it Cödi Cäeci and maybe it'll work.